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Alan Wake coming to Steam? [Steam registry entry appears]
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BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
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Seriously though, looking forward to this. <3 Remedy.
LiquidMetal14
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plagiarize
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microsoft may well have pushed them to make a more linear story given game, but the Xbox didn't. as i understand it, the engine that runs Alan Wake is still an open world engine running on the 360. if they'd made that call sooner, i'm sure the game would look better than it did, but many of the levels are absolutely massive in the finished product.Haha.The point I'm trying to make is that I believe the scope - not the quality - of the game was lessened when it became an X360 exclusive.
Edit: I'll happily eat crow if Remedy come out and delineate why they changed the focus of the game and explained Microsoft's lack of creative pressure, but until then I'm filing it under "too coincidental to be coincidence". Is that naive? Perhaps. But when an open-world title becomes a linear (or "closed-world") game in addition to a console exclusive, that - to me - raises some flags. I will not argue nor pretend that Alan Wake would have been superior as an open-world title, but until proven otherwise I will believe that the game changing focus to an X360 exclusive was at least partly responsible for the game becoming less ambitious in scope.
Edit 2: Again, for clarity, do I care? No. I thoroughly enjoyed the game. And before somebody pegs me as one of those blokes who considers open-world titles a touch above everything else, let it be known that Portal 2 and Alice: Madness Returns are my two nods for GoTY. I hope fellow GAFers understand where I'm coming from when utilising the admittedly crude formula of (PC flagship title - PC release) / (X360 exclusive) = final scope of project.
while many of the above may come to pass, i don't believe the engine is doing deferred rendering. i know it had 4xMSAA on the 360. i didn't think the 360 could do MSAA on games that were doing deferred rendering.
Except for the fact that the "open world" is just hills and trees. There's no sense of a larger town. Is the tech impresive given what you play of the game? Sure. Would I classify it as open-world? No, not particularly, though I will admit there are clear remnants of project scope past, not the least of which you've suggested.
dragonelite
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You can it only takes away massive amount of bandwidth.
StoppedInTracks
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For people without 360 it is still a better version than the one they currently have.
They're a small studio and they're dedicated to polishing their releases. Just look at how long it took them to put out what they did - a truly open world game may never have been released.
Now, if they had teamed up with the Deadly Premonition team, then they would've really been on to something. I'm only sort of joking here.
Now, if they had teamed up with the Deadly Premonition team, then they would've really been on to something. I'm only sort of joking here.
plagiarize
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i still don't think that demonstrates a tech limitation though, if you get what i mean. and it's mainly hills and trees, but it's not JUST hills and trees. you could say Just Cause 1 and 2 were mainly hills and trees... but you wouldn't say they weren't open world.
reading a bit deeper into those early tech demos, screenshots, etc, we didn't see much in the way of a city, just a small town, surrounded by lots of hills and trees. i know the pacific northwest quite well, and the density of stuff vs hills and trees isn't that far from the truth looking at the cascade area that they based things on.
fall city, wa is about as big as bright falls for example (it isn't a city). i think things looked a little more populated in the early footage, but i just don't see any evidence of the 'technical limitations' argument. design direction forced on them by their new masters? completely plausible.
True, and that's why I think it got earlier "switched" than we may think.
Lasthope106
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Day one bitches!
RPGCrazied
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Bout time. I really wanted to play this game, but don't have a 360.
The problem with discerning the level size of Alan Wake is that while the levels are large relative to levels these days, the path is very linear and the game does have its fair of - admittedly smaller - cutscenes. For instance, when Alan wakes up after a car accident, you're running along a predetermined path for all of about 5 minutes before reaching Alice and the cabin.
Ditto. Again, though (I don't mean to insult your intelligence - I'm just pointing this out for the sake of clarity), I can't prove it and won't pretend otherwise. It's merely a feeling I can't shake.
DyslexicAlucard
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Broder Salsa
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If it's a good port I will buy it on sale just for the eye candy. Sadly ended up not liking the game that much, too cheesy and repetitive for my liking.
Oh man, you're right. That game I totally loved and played through like three times? I definitely hate it now.
plagiarize
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you're right, but it didn't flop because it was a bad game.
PooBone
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MS didn't push them to make the game more linear, the developers came to that decision because it made the game better.
Trunchisholm
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The amount of hatred in this thread is absolutely ridiculous. Alan Wake is, at least, a good game. I would love it if average games looked and played like this, because it's one of the most unique titles to come out this generation. The atmosphere is simply fantastic. I for one I'm glad that more people get to experience it first hand.
Most complaints about the game are absolutely ridiculous. The linear vs sandbox debate has always amused me, as if making a more open game, especially in one as story-driven as this one, amounted to a better experience. It would have unarguably been a different game, for better or worse.
The resolution and tearing debate was understandable, but also out of control. The game looked great regardless; the resolution deficiency was only jarring during the daylight sections, which were less than a fourth of the game.
The major justified shortcoming of the game is the lack of variety in both enemy types and locales. Having said that, the core gameplay mechanics were polished enough that there was still fun to be had fighting the taken, especially in the higher difficulties.
Most complaints about the game are absolutely ridiculous. The linear vs sandbox debate has always amused me, as if making a more open game, especially in one as story-driven as this one, amounted to a better experience. It would have unarguably been a different game, for better or worse.
The resolution and tearing debate was understandable, but also out of control. The game looked great regardless; the resolution deficiency was only jarring during the daylight sections, which were less than a fourth of the game.
The major justified shortcoming of the game is the lack of variety in both enemy types and locales. Having said that, the core gameplay mechanics were polished enough that there was still fun to be had fighting the taken, especially in the higher difficulties.
Angry Fork
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OH MY GOD
OH MY GOD. HYPERVENTILATING. SO FUCKING SERIOUS.
I've been waiting, waiting, WAITING for a PC version. Remedy are god-tier developers. Max Payne 1 and 2 are the best shooters ever made imo and in my top 5 of all time. Please be true. If this is true I will no longer need a 360. PLEASE BE TRUE.
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OH MY GOD
OH MY GOD. HYPERVENTILATING. SO FUCKING SERIOUS.
I've been waiting, waiting, WAITING for a PC version. Remedy are god-tier developers. Max Payne 1 and 2 are the best shooters ever made imo and in my top 5 of all time. Please be true. If this is true I will no longer need a 360. PLEASE BE TRUE.
Are you referring to me? Because I've said at least half a dozen times that I don't believe the decision to switch to a linear narrative experience impacted the overall quality of the game. I even stated categorically that a game being open-world doesn't make it inherently superior to its more constricted peers.
I ask because the matter only arrived when I began explaining my stance on the whole multiplatform-versus-X360-exclusive issue.
Combichristoffersen
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Nice. Hope there will be a physical release too. Prefer owning physical copies of my games.
astroturfing
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definitely getting it if true. was sad to miss out on it when it was only on Xbox i liked what little i played of it at a gamestore.
i liked what little i played of it at a gamestore.I thought there was some truth to the tech limitation thing, weren't there some crazy ass weather/hurricane effects in that pc demo? I thought they were over a year and a half into the development of the pc version when the did that demo.
Also, no way they cap it at 30 fps...are you guys being sarcastic?
Also, no way they cap it at 30 fps...are you guys being sarcastic?
Phonomezer
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There is a tornado in the first 5 minutes of Alan Wake.
DyslexicAlucard
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Unfortunately, anything is possible in the world of PC ports
Take solace in the fact this isn't a R* port.
I remember when they first demoed Alan Wake and a quad core cpu sounded like science fiction
it's been a long wait
Unfortunately, anything is possible in the world of PC ports
Capping at 30 or 60 would make more sense than fluctuating FPS however...
angular graphics
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FORCING a cap at 30? It would NEVER make any sense at all.
Giving an OPTION? I'd very much like that.
Wickerbasket
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Will the PC version still allow you to run past the majority of the encounters in the game?
I found it weird that when you reached a checkpoint all the enemies despawn. Enjoyable enough game though, will buy when it drops in price.
I found it weird that when you reached a checkpoint all the enemies despawn. Enjoyable enough game though, will buy when it drops in price.
I'm not normally one of those people who insists on headphones and a certain setup to get the most out of their games. However, this game's atmosphere sucked me in so much that I wanted the rest of the world to go away completely. I only played it at night in a dark room, with comfortable headphones that blocked noise, and when my girlfriend wasn't home. It was so enjoyable that way.
DyslexicAlucard
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Exactly. All games, in my opinion, should have options for locks at 30 and 60, and none at all. Also, triple buffering etc. built in. Yes, I know about D3DOverrider, lol.
Nothing's worse than having enough power to get to over 30FPS easily enough, but not 60. That 45FPS dead zone is brutal with the variable framerate, and in that situation I'd take a steady 30FPS instead of a framerate swinging from 60 to 40FPS.
They vanished, but they came back if not destroyed in the light or by Alan.
PaleFolklore
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If this is true this is fantastic. I'd been holding out on picking it up for 360 for the longest time. I'll just get it on steam now!
Wickerbasket
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What do you mean they came back? I never experienced that, when I reached a checkpoint all the monsters chasing me vanished. I ran past most encounters in the game and I hardly had to fight anything other than the 'boss' fights.
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