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[LiquidMetal14]

Are we seeing the same MB's again in these pics? Massive pics all the time up in here.

 

[·feist·]

ASRock A75M-ITX - FM1

Exclusive: ASRock's A75M-ITX pictured
http://vr-zone.com/articles/exclusive-asrock-s-a75m-itx-pictured/12409.html


MSI 990FXA-GD65

990FXA-GD80
990FXA-GD65
990XA-GD55
970A-G45

MSI AMD 9-Series Mainboards
Powered by the most stable components
http://emm.msi.com/display.php?List=34&N=1180

18 total slides at 960x540 res:

Leaked Presentation Reveals AMD's Fusion Strategy
http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=articles&go=read&arc_id=154

Are we seeing the same MB's again in these pics?

No. The last four Gigabytes haven't been posted before.

Massive pics all the time up in here.

You think so? Most of those images are ~500-800 width, with only a handful being higher than that. Some of the smaller ones are arranged with two images side by side (to reduce scrolling), but even with a mobile they'll show up as one single column of smaller images. I had even re-sized some shots and made them clickable for higher res, or included a link to a higher res. In the case of the last four Gigabyte board images, they're setup that way for a quick comparison.


If anyone is having bandwidth issues, let me know.

 

[evlcookie]

Computex is now on and here's a board but also some interesting information.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4365/computex-2011-asrock-llano-990fx-and-z68-motherboards

Just above Llano we will have the long awaited Bulldozer CPU. AMD originally wanted to launch Bulldozer at Computex but performance issues with its B0 and B1 stepping chips pushed back the launch. Now we're looking at a late July launch with B2 silicon, but performance today is a big unknown. Apparently the performance of B1 stepping silicon doesn't look too good.

Doesn't sound too crash hot

 

[Corky]

Ha, it that because of all the stuff I've posted in the PC threads over the years? Just an avid enthusiast, looking to help others and give a heads up where I can. I do have some friends...
Haven't been to Sweden, but it's on my list.

Oh cool man keep up the great work, we're all grateful for the info and work you put into this!

<3

 

[·feist·]

Thanks, Corky.

Yeah, AnandTech confirmed the 0 stepping issues, and it sounds like B1 may have been a bigger problem than some thought, or knew of.

 

[isamu]

Silly to get these in the face of Ivy Bridge, right?

Allso, are rumors true that Ivy Bridge stock clockspeed will be 5.0Ghz right out the box?

 

[evlcookie]

Silly to get these in the face of Ivy Bridge, right?

Allso, are rumors true that Ivy Bridge stock clockspeed will be 5.0Ghz right out the box?

Ivy Bridge has been delayed until March and beyond next year. I have no idea if they will be 5.0GHz out of the box, First i've heard that speed being thrown around.

SB-E will be Intels next release sometime later this year or within the next few months. If Bulldozer does indeed suck then it's either pick up a current SB or wait until SB-E or really wait until Ivy Bridge / Bulldozer 2.0.

 

[Thoraxes]

Intel's hyperthreading allows two threads to run at once on one physical core. The idea is to make better use of the CPU while one thread is waiting for other stuff (IO etc.). If the core is at full use anyway hyperthreading can actually have an averse effect though.

AMD's bulldozer design stems from the idea that most common workload is integer based, so they let two integer units share one float unit. Compared to Intel this means a form of hyperthreading is only done on the float unit while every reported core refers to a physical integer core. So with bulldozer CPUs the amount of cores refer to the amount of physical integer units, the amount of float units will be half of that.

I'm late getting back to this, but this now makes a ton more sense to me. Thanks for the explanation!

 

[Hazaro]

Silly to get these in the face of Ivy Bridge, right?

Allso, are rumors true that Ivy Bridge stock clockspeed will be 5.0Ghz right out the box?

It is so far and away no one can say anything and we don't know if problems will crop up.

 

[strata8]

Really looking forward to the desktop Llano@65W with the HD6530. Would make a great replacement for our current Intel Core 2 E6550 + HD4550.

 

[isamu]

Ivy Bridge has been delayed until March and beyond next year. I have no idea if they will be 5.0GHz out of the box, First i've heard that speed being thrown around.

SB-E will be Intels next release sometime later this year or within the next few months. If Bulldozer does indeed suck then it's either pick up a current SB or wait until SB-E or really wait until Ivy Bridge / Bulldozer 2.0.

wow, didn't know it had been delayed that long. That sucks, because I heard it's going to be the bomb

 

[Zombie James]

Ivy Bridge is getting delayed? First I've heard about it.

 

[evlcookie]

Ivy Bridge is getting delayed? First I've heard about it.

Rumour / Information is here - http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...t_Generation_Ivy_Bridge_Processors_Slide.html

There's no real rush for Intel to bring out Ivy Bridge. If Bulldozer seems as medicore as it is, Then SB-E should be able to take the crown or even stretch it out a bit more in Q4 of 2011 with IB being in Q2 2012.

Unless the B2 stepping of Bulldozer does something magical, Intel is in no real rush.

 

[clav]

Rumour / Information is here - http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...t_Generation_Ivy_Bridge_Processors_Slide.html

There's no real rush for Intel to bring out Ivy Bridge. If Bulldozer seems as medicore as it is, Then SB-E should be able to take the crown or even stretch it out a bit more in Q4 of 2011 with IB being in Q2 2012.

Unless the B2 stepping of Bulldozer does something magical, Intel is in no real rush.

Actually, there is an incentive for ivybridge. I thought smaller chip designs make them easier and cheaper to produce.

That savings, if Intel chooses, can be passed to the customer.

 

[kpx0]

8-cores for gaming is pretty stupid right now... intel should release an i3 2100k or a duallie i3 clocked at 4ghz... or AMD should release a 4-5ghz dual core bulldozer for around $150

 

[Kujo]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...lock_Speed_of_FX_Bulldozer_Chips_Sources.html

The currently available B0 and B1 stepping Zambezi/Bulldozer processors can function at around 2.50GHz/3.50GHz (nominal/turbo) clock-speeds and at such frequency they cannot deliver performance AMD considers competitive, a person with knowledge of the situation said on Monday. As a consequence, AMD needs to tune the design of the processor and create B2 stepping of the chip with better clock-speed potential amid similar thermal design power (TDP), which will take several months to complete. Therefore, the Sunnyvale, California-based chip designer will release its highly-anticipated Bulldozer processors for desktops in September, not in June, as planned.

Ugh, can't wait any longer, sorry AMD

 

[evlcookie]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...lock_Speed_of_FX_Bulldozer_Chips_Sources.html

Ugh, can't wait any longer, sorry AMD

I'm in a similar situation, I'm torn on what the heck i should do for an upgrade.

I loved the idea of a pure 8 core bulldozer, a CPU that should in theory last me a hell of a long time with the occasional GPU upgrade over the years. However it's starting to sound like the first version of bulldozer won't all be that hot, It's possible the next version sometime next year would be more awesome but for now it's a little on the shitty side, Going by rumours.

There's SB-E coming out in Q4 of this year, which is still a while away and Ivy around march and beyond next year.

So i'm torn, Part of me doesn't want "oldish" tech when it comes to a new GPU. I'm thinking around september might bring a refresh but that's just me and my wishful thinking

 

[Rabid Wolverine]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...lock_Speed_of_FX_Bulldozer_Chips_Sources.html

Ugh, can't wait any longer, sorry AMD

Same.

Gonna plan a Core I5-2500K upgrade - update to Ivy Bridge if the performance is alot better.

I wanted to go team Green as was impressed with how great the videocards are and some 8 core CPU goodness, but Team Blue is getting my cash again.

 

[Zombie James]

Too bad for AMD.

 

[IchigoSharingan]

8-cores for gaming is pretty stupid right now... intel should release an i3 2100k or a duallie i3 clocked at 4ghz... or AMD should release a 4-5ghz dual core bulldozer for around $150

Someone pointed out to me that it's not actually 8 cores, but rather 4. I had honestly skimmed a small stat sheet saying BD would have 8 cores, and erroneously went on with it.


Researching now.......

and I found this:

http://www.overclock.net/rumors-unconfirmed-articles/912101-fud-bulldozer-come-close-i7-17.html

 

[clav]

I can still wait.

DDR4 standard was finalized this year, so I'll use that for my next build.

 

[toastyToast]

Is Ivy Bridge going to be a different socket than SB? What's SB-E?

Very confusing time to be buying a CPU.

 

[strata8]

and I found this:

http://www.overclock.net/rumors-unconfirmed-articles/912101-fud-bulldozer-come-close-i7-17.html

Didn't we already know this?

 

[IchigoSharingan]

Didn't we already know this?

Some of you might have. I wasn't aware even the top of the line bulldozer would just be 4 cores for gaming. I thought it would be a step above Phenom II X6.



I don't believe another spin would magically skyrocket Bulldozer performance. This delay + the silence over clocks has me very worried.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Someone pointed out to me that it's not actually 8 cores, but rather 4. I had honestly skimmed a small stat sheet saying BD would have 8 cores, and erroneously went on with it.


Researching now.......

and I found this:

http://www.overclock.net/rumors-unconfirmed-articles/912101-fud-bulldozer-come-close-i7-17.html

I've posted this TWICE in the thread already. If you can't be bothered to read the thread, how can I help you not make a stupid purchasing decision based on marketing lies?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27411891&postcount=93 (Post #93)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28142324&postcount=248 (Post #248)

The second time I posted it, IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO SOMETHING YOU SAID. YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR BEING IGNORANT.

 

[evlcookie]

More grain of salt information, Since that's all we really have! AMD 8110 Vantage scores

http://wccftech.com/2011/05/30/amd-bulldozer-fx8110-scores-81917-3dmark-vantage-cpu-test-details/

the tldr

3D Mark Vantage CPU Score:

AMD FX-8110(3.8Ghz): 81917 CPU Marks
Intel Core i7 2600K(Stock): 64146 CPU Marks

 

[IchigoSharingan]

I've posted this TWICE in the thread already. If you can't be bothered to read the thread, how can I help you not make a stupid purchasing decision based on marketing lies?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27411891&postcount=93 (Post #93)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28142324&postcount=248 (Post #248)

The second time I posted it, IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO SOMETHING YOU SAID. YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR BEING IGNORANT.

That post I made was a clear indication I had read your post. For one clamoring about reading posts, it's obvious you didn't even read mine. hahah. Of course I would be interested in researching on my own. And 'wow' at your anger issues. Calm down.

Obligatory:

 

[chaosblade]

I've posted this TWICE in the thread already. If you can't be bothered to read the thread, how can I help you not make a stupid purchasing decision based on marketing lies?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27411891&postcount=93 (Post #93)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28142324&postcount=248 (Post #248)

The second time I posted it, IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO SOMETHING YOU SAID. YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR BEING IGNORANT.

That's not entirely accurate (although not totally wrong either).
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20101026234515_AMD_Calls_New_FPU_Flex_FP_Defends_Dual_FMAC_Approach.html

There's obviously a lot of marketing speak in there, but FP performance could go either way thanks to the way the scheduler works. We'll see when benches get released.

 

[Rolf NB]

So if I buy one of them AM3+ motherboards (plus RAM) now and drop in my old Phenom II X4 920, can I fully expect that they will support any and all Bulldozer CPUs releasing this year?

 

[chaosblade]

So if I buy one of them AM3+ motherboards (plus RAM) now and drop in my old Phenom II X4 920, can I fully expect that they will support any and all Bulldozer CPUs releasing this year?

I don't think AM3+ is AM2/AM2+ compatible. Just AM3. So no, you wouldn't be able to use a 920 in there.

 

[Rolf NB]

I don't think AM3+ is AM2/AM2+ compatible. Just AM3. So no, you wouldn't be able to use a 920 in there.

Phenom II is already an AM3 CPU. I'm using it on a compatible AM2+ board though, heh.

edit: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desk.../Pages/phenom-ii-model-number-comparison.aspx

 

[mt1200]

But, can I use those processors in an AM3 board?

 

[chaosblade]

Phenom II is already an AM3 CPU. I'm using it on a compatible AM2+ board though, heh.

edit: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desk.../Pages/phenom-ii-model-number-comparison.aspx

920 and 940 are AM2+ CPUs though, it was only the ones released after those that were on AM3.

http://products.amd.com/en-ca/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=510

Also note they aren't on the page you linked.

But, can I use those processors in an AM3 board?

Nope, you need a new board.

 

[Rolf NB]

Oh dammit.

 

[·feist·]

AM3+ 9-Series motherboard reviews.

AMD 990FX Chipset - The ideal foundation for your ultimate PC
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/chipsets/9-series-integrated/Pages/amd-990fx-chipset.aspx

The 990FX Chipset Arrives: AMD And SLI Rise Again
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/990fx-sli-am3,2953.html


Asus Crosshair V Formula 990FX
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_crosshair_v_formula/
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/motherboards/10339
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=756&Itemid=69
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...xa-gd80-motherboards-review-introduction.html
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/41...rmula_amd_990fx_motherboard_review/index.html


Asus Sabertooth 990FX
http://techreport.com/articles.x/21019
http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-sabertooth-990fx-review/
http://www.eteknix.com/motherboards/asus-sabertooth-990fx-am3-motherboard-review-1175/
http://www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/zardon/asus-sabertooth-990fx-motherboard-review/
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=30606
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/990fx-sli-am3,2953.html


MSI 990FXA-GD80
http://techreport.com/articles.x/21019
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...xa-gd80-motherboards-review-introduction.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1626/1/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/990fx-sli-am3,2953.html

But, can I use those processors in an AM3 board?

Yes, depending on model.

There's info on the first page of this thread that goes into specifics about that, including official support from different board manufacturers.

 

[·feist·]

Report: AMD to Launch Fusion Desktop APUs in July
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2386214,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03069TX1K0001121

Now comes word that AMD's first desktop APUs, codenamed Llano, will be released in July, according to DigiTimes. The Taiwanese tech journal previously published what it reported were leaked prices for six AMD desktop APUs, citing unnamed supply chain sources.

Supporting quad-core Llano APUs will be the A55 and A75 chipsets with support for SATA 3 and USB 3.0, according to DigiTimes. Vendors lined up A75 motherboards include Asus, Gigabyte, Micro-Star, and ASRock, according to the journal.

The desktop version of Llano features either AMD's Radeon HD 6450 or 6550 graphics, matched up with a 32nm x86 CPU on a single die. Slotting into Socket FM1 A55 or A75, these chips can get an 80 percent performance boost when used in Dual Graphics mode with a discrete graphics card, according to DigiTimes.

more...

AMD hits last minute delay with Bulldozer
http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/5/31/amd-hits-last-minute-delay-bulldozer/

An AMD board partner has revealed that the company will be reneging on its plans to launch the next-generation Bulldozer chips at Computex, aiming for an August release instead.

Speaking to thinq_, the board partner explained that AMD's original plan - as all evidence suggested - was the use its scheduled press event on Wednesday to launch its next-generation Bulldozer processor architecture.

Everything seems to be in place - including AM3+ motherboards, required for official Bulldozer support, which have appeared both on stands at Computex and in the retail channel within the last twenty-four hours.

Sadly, a last-minute hiccough has left AMD with a dilemma: it can go ahead with a paper launch tomorrow, or it can cancel the whole shebang and show off something else in its place.

more...

2012 AMD Fusion platform details
http://www.donanimhaber.com/islemci...yeni-nesil-Fusion-platformlari-detaylandi.htm

 

[Hazaro]

AMD Computex LIVE
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/amd-2011-computex-press-conference-live

 

[Rabid Wolverine]

Thumbs down.

 

[evlcookie]

I was just about to post that Rabid, You beat me too it

Yea 2 - 3 months for Bulldozer? That's a real shame. Add another month or two and SB-E will be out doing it's thing and probably beating AMD all over again.

I guess my upgrade, As i probably need one, Will be going to Intel very soon. No point waiting another 2 - 3 months for something that might be a little bit better. I'm sure a 2500K will last a long time and if you're feeling the pinch, drop in a Ivy Bridge if you picked up a Z68 board with a bios update.

Damn AMD, I wanted to switch side. BD sounded really interesting from a design point but my c2d and 4850 are getting a little old

 

[·feist·]

This was posted before AMD's delay-confirming presentation:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4389/computex-2011-msis-x79-and-llano-motherboards

Those of you waiting for Bulldozer performance results from Computex, I'm afraid we're not going to see anything representative of final hardware. I did hear that the upcoming B2 stepping would restore performance to Bulldozer's original targets, however it's unclear how those compare to Sandy Bridge. The other thing I did hear at the show floor regarding Bulldozer was about its clock speed. Current B1 stepping parts are easily hitting 3.8GHz which is what the high end SKU may actually ship at (with turbo support up to 4.2GHz). I'm waiting for more confirmation but it sounds like Bulldozer will at least clock very high.

 

[Rabid Wolverine]

I'm sure a 2500K will last a long time and if you're feeling the pinch, drop in a Ivy Bridge if you picked up a Z68 board with a bios update.

This is what im thinking.

When needed can just easily update to IVY Bridge, likely to be better than Bulldozer.

Another reason why its been delayed.

http://translate.google.de/translat...in/newspub/viewnews.cgi?id=1306941618&act=url

huff, puff....

Seems like APU is getting all the love.

 

[evlcookie]

Yep, Llano seems to be getting all the love from OEMs and that's great news for AMD.

Which makes me wonder, Would trinity (i think bulldozer v2 with onboard GPU) be worth waiting for over the standard bulldozer? By then, In theory, All the kinks would have been worked out and AM3+ would be nice and stable, If it uses AM3+. That isn't going to be until sometime next year, I'm guessing mid to late at best.

So, SB seems like the best option for now and throw in an IB next year if games are really starting to demand it.

The only issue I have is that it feels like we are in the middle or towards the end of the current GPU cycle. Southern Island is expected to be shown at AMDs summit in 2 weeks and a possible release in Q3 / Q4. So maybe a BD/Southern Island combo could be outstanding now that i think about it.

But good god that feels like an eternity away

 

[·feist·]

Which makes me wonder, Would trinity (i think bulldozer v2 with onboard GPU) be worth waiting for over the standard bulldozer? By then, In theory, All the kinks would have been worked out and AM3+ would be nice and stable, If it uses AM3+. That isn't going to be until sometime next year, I'm guessing mid to late at best.

Unlike the decision AMD is faced with in going from Bulldozer 1 to Bulldozer 2 (lose compatibility, or only implement certain features), Trinity is fairly straight forward. It'll be on FM1.

Going from Trinity to an equivalent AM4, or AM3+ (depending on how AMD handles things), should be a bit like going from a Core i7 2600K to a Core i7 xxxx SB-E quad. Adjusting for stock clocks, and a few other things.

 

[mAcOdIn]

Yep, Llano seems to be getting all the love from OEMs and that's great news for AMD.

Which makes me wonder, Would trinity (i think bulldozer v2 with onboard GPU) be worth waiting for over the standard bulldozer? By then, In theory, All the kinks would have been worked out and AM3+ would be nice and stable, If it uses AM3+. That isn't going to be until sometime next year, I'm guessing mid to late at best.

So, SB seems like the best option for now and throw in an IB next year if games are really starting to demand it.

The only issue I have is that it feels like we are in the middle or towards the end of the current GPU cycle. Southern Island is expected to be shown at AMDs summit in 2 weeks and a possible release in Q3 / Q4. So maybe a BD/Southern Island combo could be outstanding now that i think about it.

But good god that feels like an eternity away

I really don't know about Trinity. I was excited for Fusion as Fusion essentially is trinity-lite but the new Hudson chipset seems kinda gimped compared to the current chipsets on AM3/+ mobos AND unless they really change things up by the time Trinity hits or someone makes a damn good deal with Lucid everyone except people who don't want to run a discrete graphics card are going to disable the onboard video anyways essentially turning it into a Bulldozer chip.

They've never leveraged Fusion/Trinity as the performance king and frankly I believe them on that, I don't think it will be the one to watch for performance. At the very least the only way I see it really could outperform a standard Bulldozer chip is if the Bulldozer were paired with a lesser discrete card than what the APU offers built in. I think they will be great for all in one PCs, htpcs and the like but I don't think it will be better than Bulldozer from a performance standpoint. Of course, technology like what Lucid has allowing two totally different cards even from Nvidia and AMD might make it worthwhile, they may even get the power switching down. While I'm sure at some point in the future AMD will bring that power swtiching tech to desktops Lucid may be the only player that may do it in the shorterm and then theoretically you could have your Trinity chip with the Radeon APU and have some OpenCL support and an Nvidia card for gaming/Cuda and Physx or perhaps a real AMD GPU for gaming, and some basic power switching, that would be sweet if the solution weren't buggy as hell.

What I'd like to see and what'd make Trinity worth it in my eyes as both a gamer and a general user is if they port over their mobile card switching technology to the desktop. It is not perfect, it relies on lists much like crossfire profiles do but if we at least had the option to edit that list ourselves I would love to have a Trinity system paired with a good card that would use the onboard in Windows and weak browser games and small stuff like that but kick in the discrete card when playing Deus Ex 3 or whatever. I would pay for that and that was and still is what I originally had hoped we'd get so I'm saddened that currently AMD's put out there that it's a laptop only thing.

As for Hybrid Crossfire, once again it's going to be limited because it has to be paired with a card of it's class which was a 6500 series card or some crap although the specifics haven't been released yet as far as I know, I don't want to crossfire two mediocre cards and go through the hassle of things not always working when I could just throw a single 6850 or something in there. Not interested.

But honestly, with what I've read about AMDs current Fusion strategy it's not clicking for me yet, I'm excited for the long-term future but in the short-term I'm not really impressed as a gamer. I'm still waiting for Unity but truthfully what I'm waiting for is either AMD to change their tune on power-switching or to see if Lucid will step up to the plate and do it for AMD, but since Nvidia's working on bringing their tech to the desktop I don't see how long AMD can really hold out before doing it themselves.

 

[·feist·]

To anyone buying a 990FX board to run SLI, Nvidia's 275.33 doesn't work, though there seems to be an unofficial work around using Quadro drivers.


AMD [H]ardOCP GamExperience - July 16
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1612784

Mark your calendars for July 16th! AMD and HardOCP are teaming up to deliver the community a GamExperience! Tourneys will be played. Raffles and tons of free stuff will be had. Free-for-all headshots will be made. Winners will be crowned. Losers will be chastised! VIP lounge for Tourney players, plenty of Fusion, Eyefinity, and Big Screen demo stations. And yes, we will give the HardOCP community their first hands-on GamExperience with AMD's next generation unannounced hardware. This event will be open to the public in Dallas, Texas. More details coming soon.

Next up:

E3 2011 ~ June 7-9
AMD Fusion Developer Summit (AFDS) 2011 ~ June 13-16


AMD Prepares to Demonstrate Holodeck on E3 2011
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/6/3/amd-prepares-to-demonstrate-holodeck-on-e3-2011.aspx

Back on Easter 2004, ATI gathered journalists in their HQ in Markham, Ontario for the ATI Radeon X800 Series launch. While I met with multiple executives and discussed variety of technology trends, there was one topic that accidently mentioned in two unconnected discussions with the visionary Joe Macri (person behind GDDR3, GDDR4 and GDDR5 memory) and Godfrey Cheng: Holodeck.

Through creating a high-bandwidth memory interface directly driven by the GPU (GDDR5) and enabling multiple displays being driven by a single card, AMD created a baseline for creation of the first generation holodeck. While we do not expect physics level of interaction, AMD reduced the number of computers that drove previous university experiments from hundreds to several: the company can drive 24 display outputs out of a single computer either by using 5870 Eyefinity6 Edition or even 36 displays if three 12-port HD5970 4GB cards from PowerColor were used (triple slot card, cannot fit more than three in a special SilverStone case).

 

[Rabid Wolverine]

http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/36178456#36178456

Interesting AMD overdrive picture. All the cores are at different speeds.

Hopefully more news trickles seeing if its worth the wait, im a snapshot away from upgrading to I52500k.

 

[·feist·]

http://www.lucidlogix.com/download/PR_LucidVirtuUniversal_310511.pdf

Virtu Universal - Universal GPU Virtualization

New Virtu Universal Immediately Available for Notebooks, All-in-One and Desktop PCs based on Either AMD or Intel Integrated GPUs More>>

"We've had an amazing adoption of Virtu on select Intel Sandy Bridge-based systems," said Offir Remez, president and founder of Lucid. "It was a natural step for us to extend this capability to all Sandy Bridge platforms including notebooks and AiO PCs as well as sharing it with the AMD fanbase."

Offir Remez
President and Founder of Lucid

Lucid Virtu Universal Adds AMD and Virtual Vsync Support
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Lucid-Virtu-Universal-Adds-AMD-and-Virtual-Vsync-Support

 

[·feist·]

Straight from AMD. Llano Fusion mobile APUs.

http://www.amd.com/it/products/note...ainstream/Pages/2011-mainstream-platform.aspx

AMD A-Series Accelerated Processor Model Number and Features Comparisons

Not from AMD.


http://www.donanimhaber.com/islemci...A-serisi-islemcilerinin-tamami-detaylandi.htm

A-Series and E-Series APUs For 2011

http://www.donanimhaber.com/islemci...lk-islemcilerinin-omru-sadece-6-ay-olacak.htm

AM3+ Desktop Processor Longevity

45nm Phenom II Processor Longevity

 

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So at least Ghz on par with the i5 and i7 line. Hope it can keep up in speed and have some OC room.

 

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Exclusive: AMD A8-3800 Llano APU & Gigabyte GA-A75-UD4H Motherboard Hands-On + Benchmarks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L37q3OyZj8Q

So at least Ghz on par with the i5 and i7 line. Hope it can keep up in speed and have some OC room.

The only drawback being that, until AMD switches to the new BD arch with Trinity and future APUs, Llano uses an evolution of the old architecture, as it's essentially an Athlon II fused with an iGP. Clock-for-clock, Intel still wins, but AMD has a considerably more capable graphics element included, which is great for low end systems, entry level users and will make OEMs very happy. For normal users, the CPU will be "good enough," while the GPU serves as the highlight in gaming and accelerated applications.


Speaking of OCs.


Full-sized images, along with stock and overclocked benchmarks:

APU smashed new IGP world records with Gigabyte A75M-UD2H ( 3Dvantage P6160 igp )
http://forums.tweaktown.com/overclo...s-gigabyte-a75m-ud2h-3dvantage-p6160-igp.html

Thanks AMD packed a sample to me, a new Llano processor
with the new architecture design, GPU on die CPU, 32nm Quad-Core
and powered iGPU with HD 6550.

the package with a new retail A8-8350, turbo core 2.9GHz.
is this what it looks like.

for Llan, my friend told to me, AMD FM1 socket focus on mainstream and target
at sandybridge, but i only care about gaming performance.
after a brief try out, i play crysis2 with 720P smoothly,

I only got an A8-3850 retail tray, friend told to me, the Llano has 3 segments.
A8, A6 , and A4 for 2 core solution with HD 6450. i am lucky he sent a A8 and i smiling

for iGPU i searched the internet, and futuremark calim now the iGPU record is P39xx
by sandybridge on Z68 using 3Dmark vantage P preset.

but i more like AMD APU has directX 11 supports. and gaming very smooth
so, after couple days, my friend sent me another main board. and he told to me
this board will let the APU fly the world record speed and very cheap. its
a Gigabyte A75M-UD2H. A75 is the AMD's FCH chipset, and the big news is
this chip has native USB 3.0 4 ports and SATA3 support.

Here's another 6-page review of the A8-3800 + Gigabyte A75-UD4H, including 5.5GHz results.
http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=266878