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[Icyflamez96]

UglyYellowFatPeople engine I think was its name.

shutup it was called BeatutifulGoldenFitGods

 

[KojiKnight]

Thank god, I was afraid with so many people complaining about TressFX being a waste of resources that they were going to stop making/updating the tech. I need MORE games with pretty hair.


Not even slightly being facetious, I made a thread about how much I loved TressFX in Tomb Raider and how so many games since then have truly felt 'last gen' by comparison.

 

[a secret-boss]

we need long untied hair this gen

it irk me when playing Dragon Age Inquisition. Everybody who have long hair are tied

 

[Karak]

I am going to this discussion. I admit I am very interested in this kind of thing. It needs to see huge improvements.

 

[Objectively Bad Opinion]

we need long untied hair this gen

it irk me when playing Dragon Age Inquisition. Everybody who have long hair are tied

Everyone in Dragon Age looks like they're wearing makeshift wigs made out of stitched-together chunks of burlap.

 

[dr_rus]

Cool. Maybe they'll optimize it to run well not only on their GPUs this time.

 

[iavi]

AMD let themselves get passed up by all of Nvidia's Hairworks dev grabs, though TressFX was/is the more impressive.

The 2.0 benefits were never passed on to the PC version of tomb-raider, to really see the performance gains from 1.0, but it looked/performed great on the PS4.

Really interested in seeing where 3.0 goes. It seems like the only people concerned with hair advancements in games are AMD, Nvidia, and Square-Enix lol.

 

[KillaKalz347]

no one will use this unless they are paid by amd

Just like Nvidia and their gameworks library. I don't see what you're getting at here.

 

[Kinyou]

Here's hoping for an Adam Jensen with TressFX goatee

 

[Maniac]

It will have an online component, maybe seamless MP. I'm not worried because a SP only game does not sell enough nowadays unless it's pushed as an exclusive.

... Are you saying a singleplayer-only game doesn't sell enough nowadays?

If so, you're delusional.

 

[DieH@rd]

Here's hoping for an Adam Jensen with TressFX goatee

This time, I want both Elias Toufexis and Michael Mando in a single game.

 

[Pyramid head]

TressFX was pretty inconsistent. You would think if you're putting this tech in a game where the main character seems to spend a fair amount of time dangling upside down, you would make sure the hair actually follows suit.

 

[IceIpor]

Cool. Maybe they'll optimize it to run well not only on their GPUs this time.

Right. Unlike Nvidia and their Hairworks version? We know that won't really happen.

Besides, wasn't the reason why it ran poorly on the 600/700 series was because they had low DirectCompute power compared to the Radeons of that generation?

 

[Nethaniah]

Hope it gets applied to more characters in newer games also cutscene consistency would be great.

 

[markot]

Hair physics is really important and stops my immersion in games. Why doesnt Marios hair move? Fuck you nintendo thats just lazy.

And shit like this is what AMD needs to top Nvidia. I know that when I buy a graphics card, im thinking 'Hair'.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

 

[injurai]

TressFX 3.0 will most likely make an appearance in the next Tomb Raider.

You'll want to

Spoiler

smell Lara's hair.

 

[badcrumble]

Can we take this to mean that the next Deus Ex game will get announced at or before GDC?

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

UE4 is very good and can portray Deus Ex universe very well, and there is a special Deus Ex UE4 using Quixel released. We will see how their Dawn Engine stands in front of UE4.

 

[Kiant]

Can we take this to mean that the next Deus Ex game will get announced at or before GDC?

Down know about that. This engine was announced a while back, but there was no official game announcement - even though they mentioned it would be used in the next Deus Ex.

I reckon E3.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Hair was so bad in DX:HR. I will be thrilled to have good looking hair in the next one.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

No game has done hair as well as Alice: Madness Returns on PC.

I just want someone else to try.

 

[tensuke]

It was really neat in TR so I hope the next one has it too.

 

[Lime]

This probably means the character in deus ex will have long hair.

 

[dr_rus]

Right. Unlike Nvidia and their Hairworks version? We know that won't really happen.

Besides, wasn't the reason why it ran poorly on the 600/700 series was because they had low DirectCompute power compared to the Radeons of that generation?

Unlike v1.0 of TressFX.

No, it was because the code wasn't optimised for anything but Radeons. Which is easy to spot if you follow the fixes which Nv made via drivers in like two weeks. After these TressFX in TR worked fine on 600/700 series.

 

[Instro]

GDC is going to be so cool this year.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Just like Nvidia and their gameworks library. I don't see what you're getting at here.

That it will be used in barely any games so why get excited about it. Get excited about a solution that has decent performance on both brands and won't be crippled.

 

[General Lee]

That it will be used in barely any games so why get excited about it. Get excited about a solution that has decent performance on both brands and won't be crippled.

TressFX is open, unlike Nvidia's GameWorks libraries. Nvidia can optimize the hell out of it if they want to. The same can't be said about Nvidia's black boxes. v1.0 might have been unoptimized on release, but at this point v3.0 should be working nicely and could be adopted by many more devs. Personally I'm thinking that we're pretty much done with static short hair, and any new next gen AAA game should have some form of dynamic hair.

 

[dr_rus]

TressFX is open, unlike Nvidia's GameWorks libraries. Nvidia can optimize the hell out of it if they want to. The same can't be said about Nvidia's black boxes. v1.0 might have been unoptimized on release, but at this point v3.0 should be working nicely and could be adopted by many more devs. Personally I'm thinking that we're pretty much done with static short hair, and any new next gen AAA game should have some form of dynamic hair.

Right. So where can I download the source code for TressFX 3.0?

Don't play the usual AMD's bullcrap. They always call every tech of theirs "open" even when it most definitely not.

 

[ScepticMatt]

Right. So where can I download the source code for TressFX 3.0?.

Not 3.0 yet, but you can download 2.2:

http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/graphics-development/amd-radeon-sdk/#downloadsamples

 

[Joohanh]

Amazing hair isn't really on top of the list of things that I wish of Deus Ex.

 

[Rock Howard]

Nothing beats Nathan Drake´s chesthair moving in the wind!

 

[michaelius]

It's a huge pity we can't offload this to secondary gpu.

Performance hit for using TressFX in Tomb raider is crazy.

 

[dr_rus]

Not 3.0 yet, but you can download 2.2:

http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/graphics-development/amd-radeon-sdk/#downloadsamples

So you're proving my point: 3.0 is closed off and is likely to still be closed off until a game using it releases. You can't optimize to something which isn't available. And that is certainly not how an open product is developed and maintained. In other words - a usual marketing bullshit.

 

[Phil4000]

Advanced Visual Effects With DirectX 11 & 12: Visual Effects in Star Citizen
http://schedule.gdconf.com/session/...-directx-11-12-visual-effects-in-star-citizen

So Star Citizen will support DirectX 12?!

 

[KKRT00]

Advanced Visual Effects With DirectX 11 & 12: Visual Effects in Star Citizen
http://schedule.gdconf.com/session/...-directx-11-12-visual-effects-in-star-citizen

So Star Citizen will support DirectX 12?!

Its just the title of the group of talks, they will be talking about DX11 features, but generally it will support DX 12 in future, yes.

 

[ScepticMatt]

So you're proving my point: 3.0 is closed off and is likely to still be closed off until a game using it releases.

Just stating the facts - you're free to take them as you will.

I guess 3.0 will be available shortly after the GDC unveil.