shinra-bansho
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I was going to ask: Has he actually made any games for the Wii, Kinect, Move, EyeToy, SingStar, Wii U or mobile/touchscreens? :/
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American McGee: Not impressed by PS4; Simcity gamers need to chill out
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njean777
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Why does it have to innovate instead of refining what is already here? New graphics/more power was enough for nes-snes-n64-GC generations, why will it all of a sudden not work now? You are forgetting about the new software and other little things that all can add up to a great user experience which is always more important then fads/gimmicks in the long run. I am not saying that the new consoles will outsell the predecessors, but it is time for new consoles as this gen has gone on way to long and we are starting to see the console games play horrendously compared to pc games today.
Reallink
Member
Dual analog, particularly for aiming (which accounts for 90% of today's games), is not even close to being a wheel. A square wheel maybe.
Well I think it's because back then there were only a limited amount of places you could put a game out on so there were as a market for consoles. Also development costs were not as high as they are now so the systems were able to build up a library and have a good value.
I just feel that without a jump like SD>HD or some hook like that sales just won't take off, and with how development costs are studios won't make games for the platforms.
I just think this is the end.
Eclectic Jabber Monkey
Member
EA has been launching high profile, online-heavy titles like the Battlefield series for a looooong time and yet they keep botching them up. I can't think of a smooth Battlefield launch ever (over 10 years worth of them), yet every time it happens they use the same reason: "We didn't anticipate the demand..." Maxis used the same excuse too:
"What we underestimated was a huge surge in pre-orders within the last week and the power of the great word-of-mouth created by the media and our community," Bradshaw said.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/9/4081464/simcity-interview-ea-maxis-lucy-bradshaw
In this day and age they can determine pre-launch demand probably better than ever before, especially with an Origin only, PC only game like Sim City! It seems like they either have extremely poor load testing with their online games or cheap out and hope they can low-ball on the infrastructure side of things. Either way they keep screwing their launches up and keep using he same excuse, which by this time is not longer acceptable.
EA, being one of the biggest game publishers should've figured this stuff out by now and for McGee to defend them only hurts the industry and shows he's out of touch with gamers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Microsoft finally got the Xbox live loading issues resolved after years of it breaking when a new big game launched, like Halo, CoD or Gears. EA should hire some help and quit making excuses for their lack of planning and testing. Its almost laughable at this point.
I wonder how poorly the BF4 launch will go?
You are bad at fractions
LOL
njean777
Member
It is not the end by any means there will always be pc games and the way it is looking, mobile games. Games will always be here. Development costs have rocketed due to stupid publishers thinking that every game has to sell a bajillion copies and be the next block buster hit. They tried way to hard to become the movie industry when they seemed to forget that a movies up front cost is 10$ while games up front cost is 60$.
Hmmm?
evil solrac v3.0
Member
I don't recall asking for that.
It's not necessarily a need to reinvent the wheel. It's a need to deliver a modern input device that does not ignore the advancements that have been made in user input over the last 10 years. Blackberry is an example of a company that chose to ignore the innovations made in user input, and by the time they woke up the market said "Too late".
With that said, I believe we haven't seen everything the DS4 can do.
AllI have seen in the last 10 years are changes, not improvements. Dual analogue is a good control method for using a controller, M+KB is better if you have them. I've not seen anything that is 'better' than those. Different, but not better.
I rather people try than not, otherwise we'd still be using SNES pads.
Different can be a good thing if done right. One of the primary reasons the Kinect was such a disappointment was that it was different done wrong.
This is also why I'm looking forward to the Kinect 2, because if Microsoft addresses the problems with the Kinect 1 then they're going to have a very 'magical' device on their hands. Of course, it remains to be seen if the gaming audience will embrace the Kinect 2 after being burned by the Kinect 1, but history would suggest that 'magical' devices tend to do very well.
Yeah, absolutely, and I really enjoy some of the different methods. I just think that expecting a better system every time 10 years is not really reasonable.
Absolutely. Different is good too, but expecting improvements just because time has passed is not really fair on the designers I think.
Reinventing the wheel worked for the Wii. Not so much for the WiiU though.
That or he is indirectly trying to get Microsoft to fund Alice: Kinect to Madness.
There is no amount of console sales that will not be a fraction of what they were. Literalism.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
A lot of people talk about innovation like they know what they're talking about...
DICKS AHOY
Banned
don't expect me to help your Alice 3 kickstarter now you EAss-kissing fuck
At least release another Spicey Horse art book please :[
outunderthestars
Banned
This is pretty much how I feel about it. Not sure why Forbes is interviewing a game developer who hasn't made a hit game in what, 13 years?
So the PS4 doesn't impress him, but this does?
I think the progresses PC made over the years put a damper on the hype and 'wow' factor of new consoles. It has less to do with the sales relation between PC/consoles but more to do with the average consumers no longer thought fondly of consoles being the hottest product in town.
Not to mention becoming EA's defense force in regards to SimCity's flopping saga. NHFTS
dark_chris
Gold Member
Fuck that, I paid $60 for that so I'm entitled to have the best stuff and well prepared for it. Those fries better have been ready! Why am I entitled? Because I paid $60 of my hard earned money for these fries and I expect it to be prepared. Especially since there are no refunds for that!
No, but you'd probably yell at them.
Which is a closer analogue to what happened on the internet than a physical attack with fries.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
THis is clearly the reason we got crap like speakers, touchpads and homing beacons stuffed into the Dualshock 4 (along with last gen's sixaxis).
Flatline
Banned
I disagree, the touchpad could prove very useful but I still don't get how they'll use the speaker. Why a speaker instead of a mic, did the speaker do anything useful on Wii?
No they didn't. If it truly did, we'd have waggle controls as standard. It was a fad and it has died off.
So when you're EA and you're faced with a fiasco like the Sim City one, one important thing to do not piss off your customers, would be to.. not lie out of your ass about it.
Gabe Newell said "you can't lie to the Internet" and it's pretty much true, especially when exposing the bullshit is this easy.
Gabe Newell said "you can't lie to the Internet" and it's pretty much true, especially when exposing the bullshit is this easy.
Cramoss
Member
You can't really say it didn't work for the Wii. Sure, it's not a standard (even though the rumors of Durango seem to indicate it'll have the kinect incorporated into the system) but it made motion control popular and everyone tried to imitate it by making their own peripherals and games dedicated to them. S
Flatline
Banned
It became really popular and then it started going down fast because people got bored with it which is the definition of a fad.
Cave Johnson
Member
But..but.. what about the Vita's back touch panel? Isn't this the new "input" he was referring to?
Alx
Member
Creating new features isn't reinventing the wheel, it's creating new alternatives instead of sticking to a single technology just because we're familiar with it. We invented the wheel, but we also invented caterpillars, skis, hovercrafts, magnetic rails, robotic legs... which all serve a purpose, without replacing the wheel.
Piracy is not proof of forgone growth, this is the equivalent to the logic behind copyright math. The %'s of actaul loss is probably near the equivalent of music/movies, since the emergence of Napster.
Bahah!
This is what confuses me too. Kojima kind of said the same thing in his Edge interview and neither of them have made games that utilize those features and they seem to ignore that the touchpad will have a mild impact on traditional controls and the new camera will expand motion control features.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
The touchpad will be nice to have, for sure, but I have a feeling just like the sixaxis, by the end of the generation no one will be using it, and only a handful of devs will have used it well.
Seems more like they added it just to have an easy answer to the question: "So what's new?"
"It's supercharged"
"8GB GDDR5"
"This touchpad"
.....
"It's a nextgen iteration of the old console with appropriate leap in power. STFU"
A Link to the Past
Banned
American McGee you big ol' fuck head. It's not the same as harassing a waiter. And just because they didn't want SimCity to be an unmitigated disaster doesn't mean that they shouldn't be taken to task, especially when there were extremely viable ways to avoid it, such as freeing up server activity by allowing those who didn't want to use the servers to NOT use them. That's all there is to it - this problem simply would not have existed if they didn't waste the energy to make people play online, when it only makes them mad for being forced to do something, and everyone else mad because they are losing service.
Femmeworth
Banned
His analogy is rather inept. The consumer-producer relationship is very different in a restaurant setting.
That is a very polite understatement.
amstradcpc
Member
Yeah, and now every smartphone "gamer" is seeking for the perfect bluetooth gamepad for control its games. So...what?. Are we going backwards or, a gamepad is the perfect solution for gaming out of PC since the beginning?.
It seems to me these all american "designers" are getting us ready for Kinect, and they will praise it like there is no tomorrow.
It seems to me these all american "designers" are getting us ready for Kinect, and they will praise it like there is no tomorrow.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Considering that Alice:Madness Returns was the best game this gen I guess he has the right to say whatever he wants
amstradcpc
Member
In hair movement yes.