ManUtdRedDevils
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Haha what babies. Glad I don't bother with either of them. Video game industry is just devolving into hissy fits and "character" attacks. It's embarassing
I don't watch his content because of the way he acts. Both parties look like immature assholes in this situation. One doesn't get a pass every time he's an immature asshole just because he has a whole youtube channel of him acting like an immature asshole. It may be less surprising that he's acting like an immature asshole, but it doesn't make him any less of one and people don't have to like or dismiss his actions just because he's famous for having a shitty attitude.
To summarize...
- Stapleton was wrong to sink to Joe's level on Twitter and pick a fight in the first place - and to then make the difference between an 8.9 out of 10 and a 9 out of 10 seem like a big deal (which it's not)
- Vargas was wrong to misrepresent a quote from IGN's Titanfall preview as a quote from their review - although he did a masterful job of shifting the argument elsewhere
- McCaffrey was wrong for being an unabashed Microsoft shill - who is trying to leverage his role as sanctioned PR to land a gig at MSFT and thus mortgaging any credibility his 8.9 score had in the first place
Have I got all of this right?
The difference is explained on a per review basis within reviews themselves. Their opinions cannot be disputed.
People honing in on the .1 difference are missing the point here, in my opinion.
I really wish this industry had more mature people involved with it.
This may be a fruitless endeavour, but Dan is actually arguing about the quote misattribution, not the score. Joe, knowing that he has no leg to stand on with the quote, decided to then argue about the score.
IGN's 'believe the hype' gushing in their preview was so ridiculously uncritical and sounded so much like a press release that it was used in the Titanfall ads that completely surrounded the reviews on Eurogamer.
It's shocking that both of these are grown men.
This. Neither one of these guys comes across as a very positive representative of game journalism. I've never watched Angry Joe before, but he comes across as the bigger douche of the two. But Joe will be glad to hear that I am now curious enough to seek out and watch his Titanfall review.I really wish this industry had more mature people involved with it.
Dumb dumb argument.
No one wins here, I just watched the IGN video review.
Disgusting hyperbole.
Reviewed by Ryan McCaffrey
ONE SMALL LEAP FOR MANKIND
After my first few rounds of TitanFall, hearing this "hey your titan is good to go call it when ready" began to induce a pavlovian adrenaline rush response. It's a signal that I'm about to transition from the liberating mobility of a jet pack powered wall running pilot to the ego swelling walking tank.
It's more than a Call of Duty with mechs gimmick, Titanfall turns out to be an invigorating multi-player first person shooter that melds fresh mechanics with familiar ones creating a new water cooling moment almost every time I play, I only wish there was more of it and that it was easier to fight my friends.
It's shocking that both of these are grown men.
It's shocking that both of these are grown men.
Good point. The whole argument was pointless, though. He posted an IGN quote and Dan started a fight (on the internet) with someone who has the word Angry in their name.
Even if Dan had good points, I'd probably side with Joe just because he wasn't the one who decided to turn this into a public spectacle on Twitter. It would be one thing if Dan had sent him a private message asking him to correct the review, had been ignored, and resorted to publicly calling out Joe when all else failed. But it certainly sounds like this was the first Joe had ever heard of this before now.
I could never get past the fact that he decided to put 'Angry' in his name. Like he's a god damned puppet on a very special episode of Mr. Roger's Neighborhood where he learns the value of an even temper.
But, some people like that kind of side-show distraction, so to each their own.
This may be a fruitless endeavour, but Dan is actually arguing about the quote misattribution, not the score. Joe, knowing that he has no leg to stand on with the quote, decided to then argue about the score.
I think the preview deserved to be called out more than the review. It read like an Xbox One ad. Liking the game is one thing but shilling the One port is another.Preview, review. That's like, a 0.1 difference.
I read this line over about 3 times and my brain still doesn't understand what you're trying to say, or how that in anyway proves he's not "truly idiotic". He's willing to do it, he asked them if he can do it. What alternate reality are we living in where 2 plus 2 doesn't equal 4 and now I'm actually Vince McMahon?
Have you seen his fuckin preview? I quoted it not too long ago! He is most certainly "that guy". I don't go on sites like IGN because they employ people like him, it's why I go on GAF actually. Direct news, easier to ignore the insanity of video game journalism, not giving page clicks to them, etc.
IGN and their dumb review scale. They should've simplified it.
I think the worst part of this is IGN misattributing a review as a preview.
Other than the lack of a score, that preview has already made up its mind about the game and is telling the reader how amazing it is and how they need to buy it. Its even telling me which version to get. If IGN doesn't want people to confuse their previews and reviews, then they should write previews that read like previews.
People honing in on the .1 difference are missing the point here, in my opinion.
Jesus wept.
Angry Joe is a pain to listen to who carries on and on with what could be said in 1/4 of the time.
IGN is just IGN no respect there to be lost.
Well, okay. Maybe it's not quite as ridiculous. He probably really enjoyed the game, as well.ONE SMALL LEAP FOR MANKIND
After my first few rounds of Titanfall, hearing the “Your titan is now ready” notification began to induce a Pavlovian adrenaline-rush response. I still catch myself looking up to the sky as I press down on the D-pad to call it in, because watching my 20-foot-tall robot exosuit fall onto the battlefield, seemingly from Heaven, is a glorious sight that I still see replaying when I close my eyes at night.
Also, completely unrelated, but I found this line funny for some reason:There’s a laudable attempt to infuse a two-sided campaign into the multiplayer through a fixed set and order of nine of the 15 maps, in which NPC faction commanders give context to the goals and game modes of each battleground. Having played through it on both sides, though, I couldn’t tell you what it’s about, other than that the IMC and Militia factions are at war. Trying to stay alive in a brawl with human-controlled bad guys is too distracting, and without controllable lulls in the fighting, most of the story is reduced to background noise.
And it seems the reviewer's eyes no longer melt when watching the action unfold in Titanfall, at least, so that's fortunate for him.Notice a theme here? Balance.
Technically speaking, those battles look impressive, but my eyeballs remain un-melted.
I really think IGN blew this out of proportion and were being whiny babbies about it. Let Joe dude do whatever he wants.
It's honestly just like a run-of-the-mill shitposting battle you'd see on a 4chan thread. I love it.
If you're IGN, why choose this as your battleground for credibility? Why not just write insightful and honest reviews from this point forward?
Oh right, they need dat review money.
Went off him the moment he labelled people with genuine constructive feedback as "haters"