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Lots of knock outs in this thread are as satisfying as the video itself.
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Armband-wearing Nazi roams Seattle instigating, gets KOed, removes armband and leaves
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yeah let's just lump the genocide of pretty much every single minority in with "political views"
Morrigan Stark
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plagiarize
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If you think being okay with a Nazi getting punched is somehow giving up the moral high ground over Nazis, then you have a very fucked up view of morality.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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It's called not defending Nazis.
I can understand defending a Nazi if they are on trial for something completely unrelated to race, and you want to defend that other thing they have done. I do not understand defending a Nazi in any situation where a Nazi openly presents as one in a multi-cultural post-WW2 society.
^This. While these racist groups are coming out in support of Trump, there should be a clear distinction between voting Republican in the 2016 election and wanting the removal and/or extermination of non White ethnic groups.
trust world star to host lol... guy wanted confrontation and then thought twice when someone bigger stands before him
wear the clothing of the most famous racist group to intimidate people and then try and talk it out when he knows somone wants to fight him back
mannnnnn bullies are almost always fuckin cowards
Another thing to note is that this incident is an example of internet mob justice, which has a history of backfiring. Though it may have gotten a guy who was obviously provoking such a response this time, what if the internet targets the wrong guy? Like what happened when internet detectives said that some innocent guy was the Boston marathon bomber?
Nazi views are reprehensible. Their harassment should be resisted. But vigilantism is a dangerous route to take for a reason.
Dude maybe if someone had just had a nice friendly chat with Hitler, where they could meet in the middle, millions wouldn't have had to die.
Doc Holliday
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Question to those saying Nazis shouldn't be punched..
Are you ok with punching someone who identifies with ISIS?
I see no difference between the two.
Are you ok with punching someone who identifies with ISIS?
I see no difference between the two.
plagiarize
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I think we're in the clear on this one Akuun. There is no doubt that this Nazi is a Nazi, because he wore a Nazi armband and was publically espousing Nazism.
So, you know. Pretty safe to presume the Nazi who dressed like a Nazi and said they were a Nazi is a Nazi.
The Broken Ska Record
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What happens if someone punches another guy who wore a Nazi armband in downtown Seattle?
Stead Fast
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Republicans hold the House. How on Earth do you suggest a movement go about changing hate speech whilst they're in power? And in the meantime, what, allow these Nazis - sorry, "people with political views" to carry on harassing people in the street?
MHWilliams
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And in the absence of those laws, some have offered an alternative option. One that seeks to minimize the newly-perceived safety of the Nazi ideology. Essentially, the potential violence of espousing that belief may in fact keep others from "letting their Nazi freak flag fly". Not a vector I'd go in, but it's a method that might work in their particular aim.
And as you mention legal remedies, the police will handle any such punching in a local case.
One would think that, but alas it currently is, hence the situation. Perhaps dealing with and worrying primarily about the cause that lead to this is important!
So they punch someone else with a nazi armband, whats the big deal?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Yep, these sorts need to get into a WW2 documentary or book right now to get that important jolt of perspective.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Well, that's also part of the problem. In America hate speech is still perfectly legal and for a lot of people, especially those not usually targeted by hate speech, that makes it fine. The climate of hate speech tolerance/free speech absolutism helps nazi ideology flourish
Beefy
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What?
Chmpocalypse
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So I wasn't seeing things? Got demodded instantly for such a shit view and post? If so, good job mods!
perfectchaos007
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"You Gaffers who are in favor of punching Nazi's in the face"
added the bolded for clarification.
I was just curious to see if anyone who has come across a guy/girl like that has taken physical action. Personally, I wouldn't punch one unless they punched me first or if I saw one of them being violent towards someone else, but like you guys I also don't feel much sympathy seeing one get punched just for flaunting their bigotry, violent or not.
Morrigan Stark
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You mentioned punching racists, and your username is "Beefy". That brought a smile to my face because I imagined a beefy dude (or lady, really) punching racists.
Sorry if that was unclear. ^^
We can reach a middle ground: 3 million jews instead of 6.
But seriously Hindenburg and Chamberlain are examples why you don't trust nazis.
Because a fake attack can be easily disproven, this one has video evidence of it happening, basically this Nazi took one for the team to advance the narrative.
plagiarize
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Right.
And based on legal precedent, we punish such an attack as this less harshly than a similar attack on a stranger. I'm completely okay with treating minor crimes differently to major ones. I can't fathom how anyone could disagree that this is a lesser crime.
ronaldthump
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I doubt the guy who punched him out followed him on social media to knock him out. You know people can see the arm band and there was clearly an altercation. So he got decked because he was an idiot who was running his mouth.
Frozenprince
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National Socialism is the beginning political view of what became Nazism.
Nazism is an ideological platform based on "racial superiority and purity".
Nazism is an ideological platform based on "racial superiority and purity".
I think it's a play on words, you punching idiots, "Beefy Member".
Oh! Thought you thought I was a mod aha. 6ft5 and black, helps that a lot of people that shout shit are dudes that have small man sydrome.
Yeah got that now aha
The same way I think all the ISIS supports should be: Rounded up, interrogated, locked. Exemplary action on them.
Mob justice is a slippery slope I think.
plagiarize
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What narrative? Be a Nazi and get punched?
"I ain't got nothin' to talk about."
The Broken Ska Record
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The narrative that this guy did this on purpose to make it seem like AntiFa are violent. Just just a dumb "whataboutism."
Dude Abides
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I never understood why so many people get worked up when you call Nazism a political view. That's what it is! Fascism is a political ideology! The Nazi party was a political party! It's right in their name! Calling something political does not imply it's legitimate or acceptable.
Laws against hate speech are using violence or the threat thereof to suppress political views. Why do you support state violence to suppress Nazism but oppose private citizens doing so both in places where the state won't?
Laws against hate speech are using violence or the threat thereof to suppress political views. Why do you support state violence to suppress Nazism but oppose private citizens doing so both in places where the state won't?
Morrigan Stark
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Goddamn. And people still call you the n-word to your face huh. Well, guess it's no surprise racists are dumb as fuck, but you'd think they'd at least have a sense of self-preservation. lol
Getting US laws changed in this regard is going to require significant public action, violence, etc. Should probably punch some Nazis to get the ball rolling.
Frozenprince
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Damn his form was clean too, good footwork and used his hips.
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