Fabieter
Member
Sony did set the network conditions which the devs dropped for a few month and it didn't get communicated like it shit. That's was the problem. Bad communication is not a new one for sony sadly.
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Arrowhead Studios confirm PSN Account Requirement decision was on Sony - Game received over 15,000 negative reviews and is now 'Mixed' on Steam
Sony did set the network conditions which the devs dropped for a few month and it didn't get communicated like it shit. That's was the problem. Bad communication is not a new one for sony sadly.
This isn’t true, though. A Microsoft account is only required for the Bedrock edition, and this was fully signposted and present from day one. The Java edition does not require a Microsoft account, and is updated to be at full parity with the Bedrock version.
Anyone who bought Minecraft before MS made the change still has access to the game with all the latest updates built in, with no mandatory MS account needed.
How is it ‘asinine’ to recommend that they maintain status-quo vs this current PR shitshow we’re seeing?
Nope its the complete opposite. The developer Arrowhead worked on the backend and uses MS Playfab. Sony doesn't manage the network conditions at all, that's especially true when people aren't even using PSN accounts. They have nothing to do with it.
Agree the handling of this has been shit but again these controversies curiously seem to always happen on a Friday and we hear nothing.
Warframe?
And on another note but the same logic the vanguard drm/anti cheat on league of legends is logging me out of 10 years of playtime. And addicts don't care about my feelings :`(. Hypocrits.
Too bad league of legends isn't on steam and I can't get all the money of those skins back with my 3000 hours playtime on league because riot surely won't do anything about that.
I presume you left strong feedback or a negative review. When you did that, did you get a lot of fans attacking you for complaining?
Absolutely no way they’ve have taken that decision unilaterally without Sony greenlighting it.
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Fabieter
Member
There is no big shitstorm I could go with sadly because league players just accepted the new shitty reality. I won't play it anymore. Where do I change it and make riot bleed for it?
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You're incorrect but that's OK:
I just hope you concede that you're wrong and move on instead of dragging me into another "yeah, but thats different, that's not thier fault" argument trying to not admit it, like the other MS shills out here.
Nobody predicted the shitshow. It was just an account signup like the Microsoft one above. Even a stated requirement when bought unlike the above. Requesting that a live service game drop plans for possibly 6 years or more 'until the next project' because of a technical issue the dev had is what's asnine. Would you say the same for dropping it from Minecraft because it was even more retroactive? Probably not.
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nosoynadie22
Gold Member
So when will Sony say or do something to calm people down?
Fabieter
Member
Let them have their weekend bro
Looks like you’re right and Microsoft made it mandatory back in 2021.
But here’s what you’re also missing:
Not only did MS give ample heads up about the change from a Mojang account to a Microsoft account, they also provided incentive by detailing benefits for the move
They even threw in free cosmetics to sweeten the deal
this is in contrast to the Helldivers 2 situation that you’re desperately shilling…many players can see that there’s no real benefit being offered for the mandatory connection to PSN.
Personally, i have no issue linking my PSN to Helldivers 2. But there are many who clearly feel otherwise
Very likely that the vast majority of buyers didn’t see that warning. I bought Helldivers 2 on Steam a couple of weeks ago, and I just clicked on purchase since I knew a lot about the title. For those who were driven to a Steam purchase over strong word of mouth, most would just be hunting for the purchase button.
As far as most folks are concerned, they know full well the game has been working just fine with full cross play without another account. So pushing the “we said it was required” angle doesn’t hold water.
why would the live service game ‘drop plans’ over a PSN account? The only plan that could possibly be hindered is Sony’s plan to Hoover up more users.
I suggest you speak like a consumer, not cosplaying as a senior executive at Sony.
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I'm not interested mate, I knew there would be a "that's different, here's why". Years after you've bought the game = "ample time". Stated even before release = "I'm blind and can't read".
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BacklashWave534
Member
Sony is locking dozens of regions out of a game that they paid for. Personally i could care less about signing into PSN but it sucks for all of the people who are getting screwed.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Seems like the Arrowhead CEO wasn't aware of PSN needing ID or facial scans in some parts of the world either, and he's not a fan of that.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Bernoulli
M2 slut
This dumbfuck needs to logoff twitter he is only making things worse
Give it a few days everyone will forget
Guilty_AI
Member
Steam's system for off-topic reviews usually intervenes in such cases, probably will here too.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
"What's next? Filter every game published by Sony and leaving negative reviews? What about after that? Do the same for every Sony game on Playstation.com? Where does it stop people!"
Holammer
Member
That's what the manga nerds call a death flag.
Police that's days from retirement, soldiers showing a picture of his girlfriend. That sort of stuff.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
How the fuck is Hunt Down the Freeman on "mostly positive"? Did they re-developed the whole game or something?
Guilty_AI
Member
Whoever buys the game now knows exactly what they're getting into
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Yeah I guess, could be one of those "it's so bad it's kinda fun" kind of deal.
Or maybe they are just masochists.
squarealex
Member
Seems like the Arrowhead CEO wasn't aware of PSN needing ID or facial scans in some parts of the world either, and he's not a fan of that.
That's because UK law.
You have choice, with Phone Number or sadly Facial Scan / ID if you don't give Phone Number.
drotahorror
Member
Not sticking up for the guy, cuz this whole ordeal is fucked and AH deserves it, but he was talking about the review bombing of Helldivers 1 in retaliation of what's going on. Magicka and Gauntlet are 2 of their other games. Of course, yeah people can review bomb those too, AH is the company that made them and people are pissed at AH.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
Now he put light on it and it's going to be review bombed even more
He needs to stop posting for a week
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Honestly Sony royally fucked this up. People are going to be on hyper alert now for PSN requirements or any changes to how the accounts operate. I linked my account for a Miles Morales skin I never even used, probably plenty of people did and would have prior to this, but any move by them now is gonna be under scrutiny.
They should have just tied the PSN account in helldivers to a cool skin or ability.
Yonyx
Banned
I requested a refund to Steam: they told me I had to request the refund to Sony, that they couldn't do anything. I requested the refund to Sony: they tell me I have to request the refund to Steam or Arrowhead, that they can't do anything. Okay, then I request the refund to Arrowhead: they tell me that to make a simple complaint ticket I have to create an Arrowhead account xDDD And I've already explained my problem to their support address before: contact@arrowheadgs.com, support@arrowhead.zendesk.com.
I'll recommend the product (because the game is good) if they reverse this stupid decision of forcing you to create another external account that you're not interested in (in many countries where there's no PSN is even worse). Linking your account with PSN should be at most something optional, never mandatory.
Edit: I played 4 hours.
I'll recommend the product (because the game is good) if they reverse this stupid decision of forcing you to create another external account that you're not interested in (in many countries where there's no PSN is even worse). Linking your account with PSN should be at most something optional, never mandatory.
Edit: I played 4 hours.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
huh? Steam asked you to contact Sony for a refund on the Steam version of the game?
That sounds .. odd ..
graywolf323
Member
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Keep trying on Steam, tell them it's because the game is requesting some personal data it wasn't requesting before.
Should work, it worked for others here. And if not, keep trying, you might have just been unlucky with whoever reviewed your request.
Yonyx
Banned
The problem in Steam is that having played for 4 hours and purchased the game in February, it doesn't give me the option to write anything on the game support page. It simply there is an automatic text that they don't handle refunds after 2 weeks and I have to contact Sony.
Is there any contact email for Steam where I can explain why I'm requesting a refund and that it's an exceptional case? I've never requested a refund before. Thank you very much for the response, by the way!
Edit: It could also be that I won't get the refund option on Steam because I bought the code from another store outside of Steam (that store washes their hands with this, saying that too much time has passed). That must be why it does not show that option in my Steam.
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Sw0pDiller
Member
People need to relax a Little. Crazy times.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Holammer
Member
Nah, everyone should go loco, it'll freak out Sony even more.
Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria!
rofif
Banned
That’s probably a law in those countries. Anyway what’s it up to him how Sony does its business. They made A game for Sony and they are way too loudmouth of an employee.Seems like the Arrowhead CEO wasn't aware of PSN needing ID or facial scans in some parts of the world either, and he's not a fan of that.
They stopped being indie the moment they took Sony money. But they still behave like indie amateurs
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Moridianae
Member
I mean, I agree it could have been handled far better, but this feels a bit...much. I recall linking my Minecraft a long time ago. I didn't really pay much heed to it and nothing changed in all the years since.
Let's just see if Sony backpedals to appease the people going "scorched earth". But man, I don't know if this is a case of "cancel culture" going berserk, because if it is, it's just bananas to me people are always willing to destroy anything or even continue to destroy well before or even after any chance of goodwill or change of heart is made.
Let's just see if Sony backpedals to appease the people going "scorched earth". But man, I don't know if this is a case of "cancel culture" going berserk, because if it is, it's just bananas to me people are always willing to destroy anything or even continue to destroy well before or even after any chance of goodwill or change of heart is made.
Fabieter
Member
Seems like the Arrowhead CEO wasn't aware of PSN needing ID or facial scans in some parts of the world either, and he's not a fan of that.
Is this only true for sony?
RyanEvans21
Member
I think its UK law or something? They have facial recognition also.
bender
What time is it?
Didn't realize they were responsible for Gauntlet. I feel like review bombing Helldivers 2 just for that fact.
stickkidsam
Member
I don’t know dude I prefer the “amateurs” to the PR professionals.
It’s fuckin’ tiring seeing studios not allowed to act like human beings. Whether it’s wise or not, I’m glad the guy can speak his thoughts.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I can't say 100% but the Xbox UK account creation page doesn't mention anything like that on this page at least.
Xbox Support
support.xbox.com
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stickkidsam
Member
GHG
Member
You purchased the code from a 3rd party site and redeemed it on Steam. You aren't getting a refund. This is standard stuff regardless of the circumstances.
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Fabieter
Member
Valve targets review bombing with unrelated titles. At least that what I read a few days ago.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
If you bought the key from outside Steam, you have to ask the store or the publisher for the refund. Valve doesn’t earn anything from you if you buy the keys sold outside Steam, so its not on them to refund you.