dampflokfreund
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Uh, I completely disagree on the Wii U. Agreed on 3DS however.
3DS had a amazing first party support, especially in 2013.
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At this point, how would you rank the 3DS' first party support?
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Uh, I completely disagree on the Wii U. Agreed on 3DS however.
3DS had a amazing first party support, especially in 2013.
humansarehorses
Member
Better than the DS's, but that's not saying much.
Only considering original games I played:
Hated Kid Icarus. The on-rails sections were good, but the other two-thirds of the game controlled very poorly.
Hated Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon. It's fetch quest, the game.
Found NSMB2 dull and uninspired.
Mario Kart 7 was forgettable.
Fire Emblem: Awakening has very poor map design. It ranks low on my list of favorite FE's.
A Link Between Worlds was very derivative, but it was okay.
Super Smash Bros 3D: I liked it fine for around 12 hours. But the series doesn't work that well on a small screen.
Pushmo: I got bored pretty quickly, but it was fine.
Fire Emblem Fates Conquest: I played for a few hours and quit. The maps are better designed and it's actually challenging. But everything else is a turnoff especially the lengthy dialogue sequences. Characters have nothing interesting to say, but they won't shut up.
Super Mario 3D Land: I liked it. There are some problems with it, namely with the camera making some jumping distances hard to judge and reusing bosses/levels, but it's mostly solid.
Only considering original games I played:
Hated Kid Icarus. The on-rails sections were good, but the other two-thirds of the game controlled very poorly.
Hated Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon. It's fetch quest, the game.
Found NSMB2 dull and uninspired.
Mario Kart 7 was forgettable.
Fire Emblem: Awakening has very poor map design. It ranks low on my list of favorite FE's.
A Link Between Worlds was very derivative, but it was okay.
Super Smash Bros 3D: I liked it fine for around 12 hours. But the series doesn't work that well on a small screen.
Pushmo: I got bored pretty quickly, but it was fine.
Fire Emblem Fates Conquest: I played for a few hours and quit. The maps are better designed and it's actually challenging. But everything else is a turnoff especially the lengthy dialogue sequences. Characters have nothing interesting to say, but they won't shut up.
Super Mario 3D Land: I liked it. There are some problems with it, namely with the camera making some jumping distances hard to judge and reusing bosses/levels, but it's mostly solid.
entremet
Member
Many of those added some nice new features and SMM has a unique campaign. Platformers on handhelds are pretty great.
Orniletter
Banned
You mean.... like....say.... a 4 player coop action game, a 3D Kirby or a rhythm game ?
Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon is more of a point and click adventure than it is a fetch quest.
Fine. On par with prior handhelds, but I'd potentially rank GBA higher, maybe even DS.
Agreed almost entirely.
(Though 'hating' Luigi's Mansion is a bit strong, it was merely disappointing and took a few steps from the creativity and variety of the original).
Agreed almost entirely.
(Though 'hating' Luigi's Mansion is a bit strong, it was merely disappointing and took a few steps from the creativity and variety of the original).
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
That's a bummer, but unfortunately Intelligent Systems was off reviving Fire Emblem instead of making Warioware titles.
dampflokfreund
Banned
Luigis Mansion Dark Moon was fantastic.
Jawmuncher
Member
7/10
Wasn't enough Shooters or M rated fare for me.
Wasn't enough Shooters or M rated fare for me.
I really liked the 3DS. My favourite titles are Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest (one of my top 3 FE's), Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia, Zelda: A Link Between Worlds (perhaps my favourite Zelda game) and the two Bravely games. Other solid games include Smash Bros for 3DS and Luigi's Mansion 2.
And then it had 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Fire Emblem Awakening as well as the Pokemon titles. I'd consider all of those decent, but mediocre titles when compared to others in their respective series. Pokemon in particular is a stale franchise at this point. Mindlessly easy gameplay with a boring plot, and the 3DS titles ran poorly on my OG 3DS to boot. At least the music is still great.
Looking forward to Metroid too.
And then it had 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Fire Emblem Awakening as well as the Pokemon titles. I'd consider all of those decent, but mediocre titles when compared to others in their respective series. Pokemon in particular is a stale franchise at this point. Mindlessly easy gameplay with a boring plot, and the 3DS titles ran poorly on my OG 3DS to boot. At least the music is still great.
Looking forward to Metroid too.
kunonabi
Member
I've been very pleased with the 3DS first party lineup especially compared to the DS which I thought was kind of lacking as far first party stuff went.
DS came down to the following for me plus a few other things they just published
Daigasso! Band Brothers
Kirby: Canvas Curse
Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Trace Memories
Super Princess Peach
Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents
Kirby: Squeak Squad
Project Hacker: Kakusei
Jump Ultimate Stars
Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Planet Puzzle League
Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Style Savvy
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks
Tomodachi Collection
Picross 3D
Last Window: The Secret of Cape West
Kirby Mass Attack
While the 3DS has:
Pilotwings Resort
Super Mario 3D Land
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Style Savvy: Trendsetters
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Daigasso! Band Brothers P
Kirby: Triple Deluxe
Mario Golf: World Tour
Tomodachi Life
Code Name: S.T.E.A.M.
Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer
Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash
The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes
Picross 3D 2nd Edition
Fire Emblem Fates
Kirby: Planet Robobot
Style Savvy: Fashion Forward
BoxBoxBoy series
Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
Ever Oasis
the eshop releases were better than the stuff that got released on dsiware and we still have Metroid: Samus Returns, Hey! Pikmin, Miitopia, Sushido, and more coming.
Actually, the DS isn't quite as anemic I remembered now that I put them side by side. I'd still put 3DS put ahead of it due to it getting improved sequels to titles that were on the DS and the games in general were a little meatier, better designed, and just more polished than the stuff available on the DS.
All in all it's up at the top with the Wii for me in terms of Nintendo's first party output. At this point the 3DS is pretty much cemented as my favorite handheld of all time.
DS came down to the following for me plus a few other things they just published
Daigasso! Band Brothers
Kirby: Canvas Curse
Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Trace Memories
Super Princess Peach
Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents
Kirby: Squeak Squad
Project Hacker: Kakusei
Jump Ultimate Stars
Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Planet Puzzle League
Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Style Savvy
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks
Tomodachi Collection
Picross 3D
Last Window: The Secret of Cape West
Kirby Mass Attack
While the 3DS has:
Pilotwings Resort
Super Mario 3D Land
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Style Savvy: Trendsetters
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Daigasso! Band Brothers P
Kirby: Triple Deluxe
Mario Golf: World Tour
Tomodachi Life
Code Name: S.T.E.A.M.
Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer
Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash
The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes
Picross 3D 2nd Edition
Fire Emblem Fates
Kirby: Planet Robobot
Style Savvy: Fashion Forward
BoxBoxBoy series
Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
Ever Oasis
the eshop releases were better than the stuff that got released on dsiware and we still have Metroid: Samus Returns, Hey! Pikmin, Miitopia, Sushido, and more coming.
Actually, the DS isn't quite as anemic I remembered now that I put them side by side. I'd still put 3DS put ahead of it due to it getting improved sequels to titles that were on the DS and the games in general were a little meatier, better designed, and just more polished than the stuff available on the DS.
All in all it's up at the top with the Wii for me in terms of Nintendo's first party output. At this point the 3DS is pretty much cemented as my favorite handheld of all time.
purseowner
Member
*Wasn't any Dino Crisis: Revelations
TheMoon
Member
Loved 3D Land and LBW, standout games for the system. Triple Deluxe was the first Kirby game I completed and liked that as well. Big misser was LM2, felt like the mission structure wasn't a great fit. Made the game feel really repetitive after a while. LM is one of my favorite GC games and I couldn't wait to be done with LM2, that hurt. Kid Icarus in the air was great, on land I struggled with the controls. Finally playing a bit of OoT 3D now and it's a definite upgrade to the original.
That's about it of the first party stuff I've played. There's probably more I missed or should give a chance. I'd say it's about on par with DS, but I prefer GBA. The arrival of SR is kind of a big deal though. Even the announcement had me booting up my 3DS again. Just a great addition to the line-up, can't wait til it's here.
I really, really miss Ouendan though. I've played O2/EBA so much on the DS. I wish we could just get one more.
That's about it of the first party stuff I've played. There's probably more I missed or should give a chance. I'd say it's about on par with DS, but I prefer GBA. The arrival of SR is kind of a big deal though. Even the announcement had me booting up my 3DS again. Just a great addition to the line-up, can't wait til it's here.
I really, really miss Ouendan though. I've played O2/EBA so much on the DS. I wish we could just get one more.
James Scott
Banned
A lot of those aren't very good and Metroid isn't out yet
Astral Dog
Member
A solid 9.0 huge step up from DS
TheMoon
Member
So? I could fight you on a lot of these "not very good" opinions and Metroid not being out yet is irrelevant to me right now.
I also haven't played a ton of them. It's an overview. Take the grumpy pants off. Put the celebration jammies on.
chrisPjelly
Member
It's great! HUGE improvement over the NDS and the GBA. My only complaint is that they played it TOO safe after the first couple of years of making bigger on the go experiences. Not many notable new IP came out of the 3ds (if you don't count Kid Icarus).
The 3DS was a 1st Party Juggernaut as oppose to the DS whoch was 3rd Party Juggernaut.
Nintendo's support for the 3DS was astounding. High budget mainline entries of their biggest franchises time and time again. Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros, 2, Link Between Worlds, Mario Kart 7, and especially Kid Icarus Uprising. To be fair, the DS wasn't as lacking in first party support as some claim.The system had a lot of quality titles such as Animal Crossing: Wild World, Mario Kart DS, and Yoshi's Island DS (yes this game was good). However, there were a fair share of duds, especially those that were outsourced to other studios.
Unfortunately, while first party support was stellar for the 3DS, third party support was lacking compared to its predecessor. While Atlus rampd up their support with the system, even to the point of adding a mainline Megaten game, everyone else seemed to pay less focus on this system. Capcom became the Phoenix Wright and Monster Hunter company, Square-Enix only focused on Dragon Quest renakes/remasters and Bravely Default, while Sega and Konami were non-existant. I won't even bring up Western developers.
So yeah, first party wise, the system is almost as good as a system can get. But thord party left something to be desired.
Nintendo's support for the 3DS was astounding. High budget mainline entries of their biggest franchises time and time again. Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros, 2, Link Between Worlds, Mario Kart 7, and especially Kid Icarus Uprising. To be fair, the DS wasn't as lacking in first party support as some claim.The system had a lot of quality titles such as Animal Crossing: Wild World, Mario Kart DS, and Yoshi's Island DS (yes this game was good). However, there were a fair share of duds, especially those that were outsourced to other studios.
Unfortunately, while first party support was stellar for the 3DS, third party support was lacking compared to its predecessor. While Atlus rampd up their support with the system, even to the point of adding a mainline Megaten game, everyone else seemed to pay less focus on this system. Capcom became the Phoenix Wright and Monster Hunter company, Square-Enix only focused on Dragon Quest renakes/remasters and Bravely Default, while Sega and Konami were non-existant. I won't even bring up Western developers.
So yeah, first party wise, the system is almost as good as a system can get. But thord party left something to be desired.
Waldo Lydecker
Member
DS has much better Phoenix Wright games and has Hotel Dusk games.
Therefore DS >>>>> 3DS
Therefore DS >>>>> 3DS
Those games ported to 3DS with huge compromises. Static backgrounds for Yoshi and DKC and no uploads of Mario Maker.
4 player coop has already been done before, in Amaing Mirror and Return to Dreamland, it's nothing new. Other two are mere minigames, actual gameplay of those 3DS Kirby games is classic beat em up. And they're crazy easy, each can be finished in a day. Wonder if we get a kirby game as challenging as Yoshi's Island or Megaman games...
ehh I'd take the two 3DS Kirbys over Epic Yarn and Rainbow Curse easily. gameplay > art style.
never played Mass Attack
James Scott
Banned
It's an app to enhance your tour of the louvre museum in france. A+ quality game
WTF is this?!?
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
I only purchased a New 3DS dl in late 2015 (for Radiant Historia) and I've only recently really gotten into games like Majora's Mask, Luigi's Mansion 2, and New Super Mario Bros.
I feel as if I have a brand new console to explore.
I do have a random question: is Dragon Quest VIII worth it on the 3DS? It seems like a big downgrade from the PS2 version (which was gorgeous).
I feel as if I have a brand new console to explore.
I do have a random question: is Dragon Quest VIII worth it on the 3DS? It seems like a big downgrade from the PS2 version (which was gorgeous).
I haven't got the game (still on my to buy list), but my understanding is that the game is an upgrade. Most notably random encounters have been replaced by visible enemies, and there are two new characters.
Personally, I love the 3DS' first party library and consider it up there with some of Nintendo's finest. It's just a shame it never got an Advance Wars title, what it is most clearly lacking.
Astral Dog
Member
Capcom's support for the DS went beyond MegaMan. I will agree they started off strong with the system. But after the first two years or so they heavily waned.
CharminUltra
Member
At this point, it's pretty glorious.
Best thing is games are still being added, so it's not over yet. Not by a long shot.
Best thing is games are still being added, so it's not over yet. Not by a long shot.
DeuceGamer
Member
I've always been really fond of Nintendo's handhelds, with the exception of the DS (not sure why I never really got into it).
3DS won me back though.
What a beautiful library of games, and to stay on topic, the core of them are first party titles.
Superb job Nintendo.
Keep up the good work with the Nintendo Switch.
3DS won me back though.
What a beautiful library of games, and to stay on topic, the core of them are first party titles.
Superb job Nintendo.
Keep up the good work with the Nintendo Switch.
People need to stop forgetting that Kirby is a platformer series and a very good one at that. The series doesn't need gimmicks to be good (although the gimmicks are usually great, e.g Robobot). Triple Deluxe and Robobot are full of fresh ideas. Colorful, creative worlds with fantastic level design + new abilities and the addition of 3D giving actual changes to gameplay.
Triple Deluxe is the best 3DS game.
My favorite franchise in all of gaming was resurrected on the 3DS, so it earns an A+ from me. I thought Fire Emblem was dead in the west post Shadow Dragon, but Awakening ensured that I got on board day one. The three games on the system weren't the best in the franchise, but Awakening does deserve marks for being a celebration of the entire series. I didn't play the N64 Zeldas, so getting to play both of those and a LttP sequel was a real treat, in addition to the Zelda games available via VC which were also new to me. Kirby Triple Deluxe was a solid effort, and I appreciate what Kid Icarus attempted even if it hurt my hands.
If a Nintendo platform delivers solid Zeldas and Fire Emblems, it's a success in my book.
If a Nintendo platform delivers solid Zeldas and Fire Emblems, it's a success in my book.
Little Old Man
Member
For me it's an absolutely incredible first party line up. Quality, variety, and uniqueness.
The third party side of things isn't too bad either. Between both sides, I'll be playing this system for years to come.
The third party side of things isn't too bad either. Between both sides, I'll be playing this system for years to come.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Overall great system with 3D Land, ALBW, SSB 3DS, Kid Icarus: Uprising and Luigi's Mansion 2 being the standout titles for the platform. New Leaf as well if you are into Animal Crossing. Also getting a Metroid 2 Remake. It even got Pikmin and Starfox on the platform as well. The Mario Spin off titles were dissapointing. The 3D remakes of Zelda, Star Fox, DK and Xenoblade were good. The Wii U ports were rather mixed bags. Game freak struggled with the 3DS and its odd to see such a huge franchise like Pokemon have higher quality output. However, the games such as sun and moon really thought out of the box and put a lot of new ideas into the series.
TriangularDuck
Member
whoa hold on there, Triple Deluxe and Robobot might be the best Kirby games ever
SinCityAssassin
Member
Yeah. Throw in some very solid virtual console and you have the one system that could carry you over on a desert island (provided you had solar charging of course). The first party lineup is absurd on the 3DS
Only Nintendo handheld without a WarioLand/WarioWare. Also, no Wars/Advance Wars.
And holy cow did Nintendo ever drop the ball with the 3D Classics program. Sega put out 29 outstanding 3D conversions, many of them arcade conversions more advanced than any 16-bit hardware could handle (some of which ran *better* than the original arcade versions!). Nintendo complained how hard it was and tapped out after half a dozen NES games, some of them not even first party, and all but Kirby very rudimentary early-gen stuff.
Rating: F-
It's a great console, but definitely some maddening missed opportunities along the way.