Christopher Nolan, Peter Jackson, and Joss Whedon have two movies each that grossed over $1b as well.
Cameron was the sole director to have a film over $2b, but JJ Abrams joined that with Force Awakens.
Cameron is the only director to have a film over $2.5b though.
What left is there to tell in this world? Let alone four movies more worth of story? I dont understand.
Cameron was able to do it without relying on household names like Star Wars, Batman or the Avengers. The fact that he creates infinitely watchable mass appeal movies movies with a new universe is what makes his 1b+ accomplishment even more unique
hopefully he can find room in the budget to spend more than $500 on writing a story/plot
Cameron was able to do it without relying on household names like Star Wars, Batman or the Avengers. The fact that he creates infinitely watchable mass appeal movies movies with a new universe is what makes his 1b+ accomplishment even more unique
This! There's no comparison. Cameron created his own shit and didn't rely on source material.
Big difference!
Cameron invented films!
There are comparisons and angles anyone can bring up depending who they are trying to defend.
I'd say Titanic is source material. Avatar wasn't. Then again Batman was as dead as dead can be on film and Nolan reinvented and revived it.
But he's still dealing from source material. It's still Batman. I'll argue that M.Night Unbreakable was an incredible original take on the SH genre and doesn't get enough credit. It was just as grounded if not more so then Nolan's movies and had zero source material to fall back on. And this was before the boom of SH films as we know it today.
Edit:. I'm not slighting Nolan's movies in any way. I love the first two and did an incredible job on putting his own vision and stamp on it.
Stuff. Thangs.
I'm sure we'll find out. There's an entire alien world to explore, we've only seen a small part of it.
But Avatar does have source material....Pocahontas.
But Avatar does have source material....Pocahontas.
Who needs stuff like memorability when you have a dozen people on a video game forum swearing up and down that its a beloved classic that millions of people across the world talk about daily?The issue is that Avatar has no fans. It was a fun 3D movie but nothing else is memorable about the characters or the story in general.
That's what's so great about it. They can go anywhere from here on in. For all we know they could tackle the origin of life in the universe in the sequels. Wouldn't that be something?What left is there to tell in this world? Let alone four movies more worth of story? I dont understand.
Going to laugh my ass off when each of these films makes more than a billion dollars WW and GAF still insists the public has forgotten the franchise.
When I said that Star Wars TFA would surpass Jurassic Park and bet a 30 day ban, a ton of people started quoting me basically saying how stupid I was. That was honestly an easy one. GAF is never on point when it comes to films. That's why Spiderman 2 is still regarded as the greatest hero film ever here.
When I said that Star Wars TFA would surpass Jurassic Park and bet a 30 day ban, a ton of people started quoting me basically saying how stupid I was. That was honestly an easy one. GAF is never on point when it comes to films. That's why Spiderman 2 is still regarded as the greatest hero film ever here.
That sounds like a complete lie given how many people expected TFA to break $2bil. If anything, JW's performance made some people overly confident in TFA given they covered similar ground.
Jurassic World had a huge push from China and Star Wars just isn't that strong over there. So it was completely reasonable to assume it wouldn't do as good. I doubt that anyone expected TFA to do over a billion in the US alone - which is still pretty crazy.Wait! People didn't think TFA would surpass JP? Come on?!?!?
And yet people are going crazy over World of Pandora at Animal Kingdom, and well they should. You've conveniently missed the things that people loved about Avatar the most, which was being transported to a beautiful yet dangerous alien world.The issue is that Avatar has no fans. It was a fun 3D movie but nothing else is memorable about the characters or the story in general.
Who needs stuff like memorability when you have a dozen people on a video game forum swearing up and down that its a beloved classic that millions of people across the world talk about daily?
Lol, I can track down that thread if you really want me to.
b b-but my avatar themed disney ride! it's so popular!
That's what's so great about it. They can go anywhere from here on in. For all we know they could tackle the origin of life in the universe in the sequels. Wouldn't that be something?
Calm down, dude.
The issue is that Avatar has no fans. It was a fun 3D movie but nothing else is memorable about the characters or the story in general.
Why should we expect anything like that after the rather rote story and fairly simple straight forward characters from the first? Cameron is one of my favorite directors but Avatar was a story told a thousand times before with a new fancy 3D coat of paint. I'm not exactly expecting a master class in story telling going beyond the most basic of plot lines about evil greedy humans against giant blue noble savages.
The issue is that Avatar has no fans. It was a fun 3D movie but nothing else is memorable about the characters or the story in general.
Most if not all Blockbusters movies aren't original stories. I'll agree with you the characters aren't as quotable or memorable as his other movies but the plot was perfectly fine. SH films are the same. SH's trying to save the world against their arch enemies. End of story...again and again.
Cameron makes populist movies.
So what are your box office expectations for the the sequels?Who needs stuff like memorability when you have a dozen people on a video game forum swearing up and down that its a beloved classic that millions of people across the world talk about daily?
Did you read the post I was responding to? I'm not talking about other movies out there, I'm talking about Avatar and what to expect for the sequels based on what the first movie gave us which was not a film that has me expecting it to explore the greater mysteries of the universe and life itself.
Too early to give exact estimates, but Id say $800-920 ww.So what are your box office expectations for the the sequels?
And the first movie gave us a blank world in which could go in any direction he pleases. He's not anchored to anything. Let's just chill and see.
Too early to give exact estimates, but Id say $800-920 ww.
Avatar was so fucking mediocre. I have no clue how Cameron got away with it. Not sure how anyone can look forward to these monstrosities.
Too early to give exact estimates, but Id say $800-920 ww.
Too early to give exact estimates, but I'd say $800-920 ww.
So Avatar in its forgotten, unmemorable, and no fan having state can still pull in Wonder Wonder, GOTG 2, Spiderman money. Interesting.
Im basing this off of the fabled CAMERON bump.So Avatar in its forgotten, unmemorable, and no fan having state can still pull in Wonder Wonder, GOTG 2, Spiderman money. Interesting.
If this were coming out 3 years after the first one, sure.The first film topped $1B in 3 weeks, off a $77m opening weekend in the US. The sequels are going to open higher.