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Bayonetta 2 off to a slow start in Japan [Update: Week 2 sales]
- Thread starter SomewhatGroovy
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Aquamarine
Member
Ugh...I don't even want to deal with this right now.
I just hope people start to care more about the integrity of data reporting.
Some...interesting posts here on both sides. But I guess not everyone follows Media Create much. Which is fine...but why then would you say something like it's a fact lol?
Few things
1) Wii U's LTD is higher than the 360's was. So that's not an excuse.
2)dunno where this scale bound thing came from. But the xbox sold like 1K (on cell, need to double check) today. And it's what, the 3rd week?
Will the xbox's LTD even be above 40k when scale bound comes out? Lol. Christmas might get it to that illustrious number maybe.
Few things
1) Wii U's LTD is higher than the 360's was. So that's not an excuse.
2)dunno where this scale bound thing came from. But the xbox sold like 1K (on cell, need to double check) today. And it's what, the 3rd week?
Will the xbox's LTD even be above 40k when scale bound comes out? Lol. Christmas might get it to that illustrious number maybe.
I agree with you.
I also am with you in not understanding doomsday scenario's and being disappointing when their games don't do too well.
DAREALGUMMY
Member
Nintendo, please advertise this game you've invested in.
Japan sure loves them shooter games. Shooters do well in Japan don't they? I'm looking at COD numbers on wikipedia and they're in the hundred of thousands. Is there a game that is more similar to Bayonetta that came out recently?
Sammy Samusu
Member
Nintendo should have funded a 3DS version.
Wha, I still can't stomach this. Were japanese gamer perceptions of bayonetta brand or platinum games as a whole really is that low? I mean the studio consist of big names veteran with several multi million seller in their resume. I simply can't accept reasons like "mobage is the real deal in japan" since there are still games that sold reasonably in japan.
What's the deal gaf?
What's the deal gaf?
Stylish character action was always a niche though, no?
I know I don't expect most gamers to have completed DMC3, NGB, Bayo etc.
Aquamarine
Member
What? Or is this a joke? I don't know I'm tired.
To be fair hes probably happy the game is getting money to get finished.
abstract alien
Member
Microsoft is going to take care of that. Their marketing and product exposure is usually top tier.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
buy or sell: Devil's Third's first week sales < Wonderful 101's first week sales
he just wants his trash ass game to come out
It's on Wii U and not a Nintendo game.
True. These two games under performing really hurts Nintendo the most as they are bank rolling the games.
I like Wonderful 101 in this fight.
It all comes back to this. Nintendo constantly thinks they don't have to market their products and it's so damn aggravating. It really needs to be asked why and I wish someone in the game media would finally ask them outright why they don't market their games or only market certain ones.
In the end though it's their money to waste by not doing the basic things a business has to do to make their product sell. Platinum has their money already. This is something people need to understand. So if Nintendo came to them and Sega saying they'd like to have a Bayonetta 3 made I'm sure they'd be happy to do it.
The question is does Nintendo make enough off of games like Smash Bros, Mario Kart, etc that they can have games like Bayonetta 2, Devil's Third, etc funded or published and not do well but still want them on the system so the system's library is diverse. If that's what is happening here and Nintendo is okay with the games selling slowly over time then why in the end should we give damn about the sales?
Could this be what is happening here? It's something I asked in the main sales thread. Do the sales of these games ultimately not matter but what is important to Nintendo is to have them on the system to expand the library for those that want them while the bulk of the money for the company, that helps cover these games, comes from Nintendo's bigger titles? Especailly since they have no traditional third party support.
I'm still picking up my copy when it releases in North America. This is not going to stop me from doing that. My concern is going to be on enjoying the game. Continuing to be annoyed by Nintendo's actions when it comes to selling their products is something I don't really need in my life. They've been doing this for a years now and haven't changed how they acted. They have the numbers, more then we'll ever see or know, so they must be okay with things as they turn. Without Nintendo in the first place the game wouldn't exist and I'm glad they funded it. That's where I'm going to draw the line going forward. Let them worry about things selling after that. I'll focus on enjoying the games.
Astral Dog
Member
Lol, what do you want them to say? That they are sad the game didnt do better? That Bayonetta 2 deserved those sales? Badmouthing Nintendo ? The reason this game got made in the first place isnt because it was a big success, they are going to talk about the quality of the game, the good reviews and try to stop people from questioning it based on sales numbers.
SolidSnakex
Member
None that I can think of. Oneechanbara Z2 is going to be released on the PS4 at the end of October. If that manages to sell more, then it'll be very telling.
Shocking news. I expect slightly better numbers in the west.
I bet Itagaki isn't even wearing pants right now
I bet Itagaki isn't even wearing pants right now
Sounds about right.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Eh, nintendo funded the game right? Shouldn't affect platinum, as long as the game is good and got made to begin with that is all that really matters (personally I play games not stock market/sales)
It's a shame more people don't recognise platinum games but what are you going to do? I've seen so many good devs get shuttered while the AAA garbage ones keep on chugging, I'm used to it.
Hey it's still another worthy game added to the wii u library, all the better for me when I buy one.
It's a shame more people don't recognise platinum games but what are you going to do? I've seen so many good devs get shuttered while the AAA garbage ones keep on chugging, I'm used to it.
Hey it's still another worthy game added to the wii u library, all the better for me when I buy one.
bobbychalkers
Member
Devil's Third gets to exist and Valhalla gets paid.
I am happy with them funding Bayonetta 2 since its a quality game. So far from what we have seen of Devil's third, it looks worse then vanilla NG3.
And where are the non-Nintendo fans? Why aren't they buying Bayo2?
UltraGunner
Banned
Itagaki don't give a shit about shit all breh. He's just happy to have someone giving him beer money.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I mean PG has gone from working with Sega exclusively to working directly with first party publishers like Nintendo and Microsoft and working collaboratively with KojiPro
If they're failing, they're failing upwards.
but I mean if dudes want to keep themselves up at night wondering if THIS IS THE END OF THEIR NINTENDO PARTNERSHIP who am I to get in the way of their fun
Guess we'll see.
Edit: oh now I remember that game now that I googled it, its the one that had the boob booths at TGS lol
Spieler Eins
Member
Devil's Third looks great. I'll be sad at its 3k opening.
FlamingHawk
Banned
Wii U is dead for me, I have no hopes in the Wii U getting anymore "hardcore" games. I don't think Nintendo expected low sales like these. I mean come on Destiny on PS4 sold 3 times as much and its a god damn FPS in Japan, not to mention Wii U has 3 times the install base than PS4. And by hardcore games I mean like Xenoblade, Bayonetta 2, and Fatal Frame. From now on all we'll see is Mario, Mario, Mario, and Zelda on the Wii U. I'm just going to stick with 3ds for Nintendo platforms.
Really? Up until now, there are no 3rd party (exclusive and multi) that sold well on wii u in japan? That's crazy if true.
I bet he's probably watching armageddon right now
That's pretty disappointing to read, but for me, it's definitely the title on Nintendo platforms that I'm most interested in up until November and December. I'm not buying Hyrule Warriors, my money is going on the Bayonetta double pak
I hope other people here are thinking along the same lines. It looks the more creative game, it looks to be better value, and it looks great
I hope other people here are thinking along the same lines. It looks the more creative game, it looks to be better value, and it looks great
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
As fans of the character action genre, it absolutely is our job to support quality new games in the genre.
Its our job to keep the genre alive. Most publishers and investors aren't interested in doing the same.
screw you guys, i'm buying Devil's Third day 1. If I bought that piece of shit Ninja Gaiden 3 on day 1 even knowing it was a piece of shit, along with Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 Plus day 1 also knowing it was shit and without even liking the original NGS2, then I will at least buy some potentially not piece of shit from Itagaki on day 1.
might buy Bayo 2 day 1, haven't decided yet.
might buy Bayo 2 day 1, haven't decided yet.
KillerMan91
Member
These threads always tell me how few people here actually read weekly Media Create threads. Same info could be found there....
StreetsAhead
Member
MH3U did alright iirc.
prag16
Banned
A little off topic, but why is it the better tracker?
I've seen other people say mediacreate is the superior tracker (though in some cases people might be joking/trolling and saying whichever tracker makes their favorite system/game look better is superior...).
Me too. I actually really want to play it.
I'm also buying two copies of Bayo 2. One for me and one for a friend.
Astral Dog
Member
This is the thing, Nintendo TRIED to market the game, showing it constantly at all their events, TV ads, Making a Direct for it, a special edition, bundling the original game,etc, i would not say its a "AAA" Marketing campaign, but they didnt send it to die either, there is only so much they can do on Wii U.