never said i'm not going to buy it. it was just such a brilliant move by nintendo that made me salty as fuck. now i'm actually considering to buy a nintendo product. my last one was a game boy classic about 20 years ago.
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Bayonetta 2 - WiiU (Director: Yusuke Hashimoto, Pub: Nintendo, Supervision:Kamiya)
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never said i'm not going to buy it. it was just such a brilliant move by nintendo that made me salty as fuck. now i'm actually considering to buy a nintendo product. my last one was a game boy classic about 20 years ago.
Where's that guy standing up fade to Gaf gif?
I wouldn't have expected that in a thousand years, even though I certainly got my hopes up that Nintendo will continue working together with Platinum Games after P-100.
Nintendo lost much of my respect in the last two years, especially regarding the Wii U, but this news nearly makes up for all of it. It's the first time that I get the feeling that they are actually serious about trying to appeal to "me" (and other core gamers) too.
It's especially great considering that Bayonneta 2 was purposedly all but cancelled. They went to Sega in order to ressurect an already cancelled project, even though the chances that it's going to be a profitable endeavor for Nintendo is pretty slim? That's pretty nice, really.
I don't think that Platinum Games is in a situation where they can be picky about their publishing partners. As long as Nintendo is interested in publishing their games and keeps their business running, I can't imagine that they would decline the offer.
I very much doubt that they'll ever be truly exclusive to Nintendo, though. Even if other publisher don't want to touch their games anymore, I'd expect that Konami continues their relationship if Rising sells well.
I doubt it's going to make any money and even if it does the profit will probably be negligible. It's a prestige object, really.
Nintendo lost much of my respect in the last two years, especially regarding the Wii U, but this news nearly makes up for all of it. It's the first time that I get the feeling that they are actually serious about trying to appeal to "me" (and other core gamers) too.
It's especially great considering that Bayonneta 2 was purposedly all but cancelled. They went to Sega in order to ressurect an already cancelled project, even though the chances that it's going to be a profitable endeavor for Nintendo is pretty slim? That's pretty nice, really.
I don't think that Platinum Games is in a situation where they can be picky about their publishing partners. As long as Nintendo is interested in publishing their games and keeps their business running, I can't imagine that they would decline the offer.
I very much doubt that they'll ever be truly exclusive to Nintendo, though. Even if other publisher don't want to touch their games anymore, I'd expect that Konami continues their relationship if Rising sells well.
I doubt it's going to make any money and even if it does the profit will probably be negligible. It's a prestige object, really.
Exterminieren
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They get hardcore cred for their console, and keep Platinum close. It's pretty clear that Nintendo see Platinum as a partner for the future.
Also, it'll be a million-seller if it performs like the original. Not a knockout success, but nice enough.
Monocle
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My 80th birthday was kinda disappointing. Who gives someone an iPod Giga with only 20TB quantum memory? Fucking thing sucks.
I think you're misunderstanding andymcc. He's not complaining about it, he's simply acknowledging that this is big enough to make him purchase the system. If anything that'd suggest that he's pleased, not bitter!
clay_ghost
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I think the mods are starting to ban.
don't worry about it
honestly in many ways dark souls has a far more interesting plot
Jawmuncher
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I really hope this means we'll see more M rated fare from nintendo.
They had Fatal Frame on Wii.
Publishing Ninja Gaiden 2.
Publishing bayonetta 2.
Not to mention they had Resident Evil as a exclusive for a time.
I like this, since for someone like me who isn't big into nintendo's first party stuff.
This alone can make the system something I play once in awhile, to something often.
They had Fatal Frame on Wii.
Publishing Ninja Gaiden 2.
Publishing bayonetta 2.
Not to mention they had Resident Evil as a exclusive for a time.
I like this, since for someone like me who isn't big into nintendo's first party stuff.
This alone can make the system something I play once in awhile, to something often.
They usually do, and a better job than the original publisher. Tales of Symphonia is a good example of this. Nintendo actually marketed it and it was the first Tales game to sell over a million in North America.
I think that, for a broad variety of reasons, Nintendo is outside what I shall call the Cool Kids Club in the gaming universe.
The Cool Kids Club is loosely associated with sales (games like GTA are in this club, as is Elder Scrolls) but is not entirely dictated by it (games like Bioshock are definitely in this club, even though it's not an enormous seller).
If you consider it, think of all the influential developers in the medium -- the ones who other developers want to follow, and look up to. While we can quibble about a few names, I suspect most would agree the list includes names like Valve, Kojima, Rockstar, Irrational, Bethesda, Blizzard, Naughty Dog.
Nintendo hasn't gotten a real effort from any of these leaders of the Cool Kids Club for a long, long time. Despite their massive success with the Wii, they never got a game from Ken Levine, or the Houser Brothers, or from Epic. They never got a game from Bethesda, either. Or Valve. Or Square's Final Fantasy team, even, despite their relative decline of status in this club.
That is what they need to change. It is these few development houses that other lesser known developers look up to; Nintendo needs to find a way to get these developers on board, because pretty much the entirety of the "core" audience is led by these dozen or so developers. Where they go, others will follow.
Platinum is not Valve, or Rockstar, but they're on the periphery of this trend setting, Cool-Kids-Club group. That is my position on the issue.
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I remember reading an interview that he wanted a break from pure action games concluding bayonetta. So I guess that's why he's on P-100
He's still supervising and will probably do story like with Viewtiful Joe though
I'm more curious how this happened
I was under the impression Sega owned the IP, or had some form of joint ownership.
nelsonroyale
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Quite a cool move by Nintendo here...personally, I am more excited for MGR because I prefer that universe but this is cool
Riposte
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Dark Souls has a more interesting plot (mainly in the way it is told) than about 99% of games, so that isn't say much.
LOL, I feel your pain there. But more exclusive games in the end will balance the scale rather nicely. Don't stop there, Nintendo. Keep showing me you mean business and I'll gladly show you the money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBS0OWGUidc
Wyndstryker
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I'm guessing that Nintendo's plan for the Wii U might be stepping up for the Japanese developers as they've had a lackluster showing this gen. If that is the case then it's possible Nintendo might seal a ton of 3rd party Japanese support. Nintendo might let Microsoft and Sony fight for western 3rd party studio support while they start scooping up all the Japanese support.
Hahaha. The reaction in this thread is priceless. I welcome Bayonetta 2.
It's sad because if they are truly fans, then they would buy it for whichever console it's on and not complain.
It's sad because if they are truly fans, then they would buy it for whichever console it's on and not complain.
Coppertracks
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Well then you've missed out on some quality games.
This is probably the least insulting and most thought out post in this thread.
Thank You.
Because unlike a publisher like SEGA it's okay for a company like Nintendo to make a loss on a game, in order to shift more hardware and develop a 'hardcore gamers must own this' brand name.
Barack Lesnar
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Even if it's not your type of game, at least we have some hope that this could be a sign of things to come. The Wii didn't get anything like this early on, not that I remember. I'm not counting garb like Red Steel.
Everybody should just quit talking about Joe, because people will associate Bayo 2 to Joe 2. Hopefully there's nothing in common.
Charoncaori
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What you just said would be AWESOME. The first bayonetta is cheesy as hell, that's the point. The mechanics are amazing. They could add 1 new awesome weapon or mechanic and I'd be on could fucking 9.
navi-style Kamiya playtips: USE YOUR BRAIN
nintendors
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Guys if you want this game to be multiplat then you need to buy it on Wii U...
cuz if it failed....Sega would certainly wont bother bringing it the other platforms.
cuz if it failed....Sega would certainly wont bother bringing it the other platforms.
Iwata: (laughs)
slightconfuse
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maybe this will lead to kamaya making his star fox game. while i am disapponted this is on the wii-u , good pick up by nintendo
Flachmatuch
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Just be honest and say you want it to be bad, sheesh.
Your post was claiming that Bayonetta was a button-masher. It was not about your lack of enthusiasm for the sequel at all, but your misrepresentation (and obvious ignorance) of the original game. A strawman is not an acceptable argument.
Fried Food
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Guess I'm buying a WiiU
metalslimer
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I just have to say fuck any of you complaining about this when nintendo had to get the ip from sega because it was dead.
IdreamofHIME
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I'm angry coz it's a bit of a kick in the balls to those who actually supported the 1st game on non-Nintendo systems, much like the Resident Evil deal back on the GCN....
..but at the same time I know enough to know the game probably wouldn't be released without Nintendo stepping in.
My question is what's SEGA's deal here? They own the ip...but Platinum is developing and Nintendo is publishing...so what the fuck is SEGA doing? Counting the money that (hopefully) comes in?
Maybe we can get that deal going for Shenmue 3 too
..but at the same time I know enough to know the game probably wouldn't be released without Nintendo stepping in.
My question is what's SEGA's deal here? They own the ip...but Platinum is developing and Nintendo is publishing...so what the fuck is SEGA doing? Counting the money that (hopefully) comes in?
Maybe we can get that deal going for Shenmue 3 too
This may be the post of the thread. I mean this in the worst way possible
why not, Nintendo did a huge investment on advertisement for Monster Hunter 3
I ALREADY ANSWERED THIS 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 TIMES
Spiffy_1st
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It's because it'll obviously be a 6.5/10 game.
LiveFromKyoto
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They've publicly stated they're trying to get the hardcore market back with the U. Because they realized that the casual market is great and buys lots of systems, but the hardcore market is where your real tie ratio comes from, and therefore your real margins. It's not about selling the system to the most people, it's about selling the system to the right people.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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:lol:
This was incredibly surprising news, not only that Bayo 2 was resurrected, but that Nintendo is publishing it no less. If it was available at launch, I probably would have jumped on Wii U day one
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