MaximusPayne
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Man, EA is taking Star Wars fans to the cleaners.
Fucking perfect, pretty much captures this whole thing concisely
Wonder if Disney is going to chime in.
Hopefully all of this negative publicity will bring about real change with BF2.
Yea, I'm sure after this they will make all their games free with no microtransactions and provide all future content free to.
That's what I don't get, why don't devs just give everything for free? It's better to be nice than rich.
If you really think that speaking against draconian business practices is wanting something for free, you really have a lot to grow in your personality.
I am surprised Disney hasn't put an end to this.
I am surprised Disney hasn't put an end to this.
You can't fight dishonestly with more dishonesty... This is like those stupid "the truth" anti-smoking commercials...
Just to be clear, I don't want to be on any side of that conflict, but isn't that the nature of ANY business? To make as much money as possible with less and less self costs?
This is forum where many members are actually working in game dev studios - all of the bigger ones have marketing and business analytic departments that have only one purpose: how to make more people pay more, and how to simply make more money.
There is really no sentiments here nor morality - all you want is only to keep legal boundaries intact.
I am sometimes participating some meetings with higher ranking executives and all I hear is: 'how to make money with that game design?'.
Giving fun to users is just a tool to make them pay for that fun.
And if you believe it is different then that, I advice you to get back to real World.
Yet, I may understand that people feel offended with that p2w policy in full price AAA title. Competently understandable. Yet, you will see that EA will make as much money as they wanted - a lot! And that is all that matters. Will they suffer in long run? I don't think so, but I may be wrong as in anything.
We will see then.
EA under investigation by Belgium's gambling authority
https://www.engadget.com/2017/11/16/battlefront-ii-belgium-gambling-investigation/
I'm surprised it made BBC News.
EA are surely gonna have to change it.
no one would give a shit if they just made it cosmetic. What an idiotic decision that hopefully drastically impacts sales.
no one would give a shit if they just made it cosmetic. What an idiotic decision that hopefully drastically impacts sales.
Disney didn't create Star Wars, they purchased it. They give zero fucks about anything except $$$$ from Star Wars.
There's a petition to push ESRB declare loot boxes as gambling:
https://www.change.org/p/entertainm...-esrb-make-esrb-declare-lootboxes-as-gambling
I doubt it won't do any difference, especially considering that ESRB is a tool in the hand of the publishers, but here it is.
This is great news hopefully other countries will launch their own investigations as well
Yes, but then is then and now is now.
And of course they said what they said: they're run by publishers.
But their word is not law.
Could you please provide evidence that they're "run by" publishers?
A group of developers and publishers created the IDSA which in turn created the ESRB. The goal being to self-regulate the industry with ratings so that the government wouldn't. Today the IDSA is the ESA, a trade association for the videogame industry and oversees the ESRB. A trade association made up of most of the largest publishers in the industry.
So while you won't see it explicitly and officially stated anywhere that the publishers run the ESRB you can see where their funding and presumably some degree of direction is coming from.
I wouldn't expect the ESRB to touch any of this with a ten-foot pole unless major world governments tell them that if they don't, the governments will.
I think it is only a matter of time before a prominent US district attorney, legislator, or commission tackles this as unregulated gambling. "Think of the children." is a pretty powerful hook.
If you bought this game, you are a part of the problem.
I'd say it's more like overkill, but maybe that's just me.
Hopefully all of this negative publicity will bring about real change with BF2.
If you bought this game, you are a part of the problem.
What really makes this disappointing is the gaming media. Every year they give microtransactions a big pass when they should deduct major points for that. Good on BBC, the Belgium government and the rest of the media to shine a light on this. I hope more countries follow through as microtransactions are scummy as hell. Something needs to be done as it has quite the bad affect on kids.
Man, mainstream media coverage really does make a difference. Just talked to 2 people today who are casually into games (they buy FIFA and mabye 1-2 online shooters every year) and both asked me what the deal was with the Starwars game since they had read some negative stuff in the news.
Not sure they are giving it a pass now.
Most reviews are saying that in many ways it's much better than the first game, but it's still getting similar scores mostly because of microtransactions .
I don't think that a good game that has microtransactions should instantly get only 4/10 scores. But it's clearly taking a hit.
I do.I don't think that a good game that has microtransactions should instantly get only 4/10 scores.
I don't think that a good game that has microtransactions should instantly get only 4/10 scores.
If you bought this game, you are a part of the problem.
I'm not particularly interested in it, but if I were, I'd definitely be buying it used.
Yea, I'm sure after this they will make all their games free with no microtransactions and provide all future content free to.
That's what I don't get, why don't devs just give everything for free? It's better to be nice than rich.