I hated the Wiimote "features". It always found them to be more like gimmicks after the initial hype.
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Best ver. of games during the Gamecube, PS2 and X-Box era
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I hated the Wiimote "features". It always found them to be more like gimmicks after the initial hype.
Yes it does.
Indeed it does. Once you're past the screen that asks you to plug the Nunchuck into the Wii Remote, unplug the Nunchuck and plug in the GameCube controller. It then plays identically to the original version, laser sight and all.
You gotta source on that?
Pretty sure he's wrong on that.
Manmademan
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"The thing" suffered from the same problems that splinter cell did going from Xbox to PS2- the game was massively downgraded, lighting in particular.
Castef
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Castef
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Yup. Xbox version was the best of three.
Red Chocobo
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I always found Xbox to have the better performance. Especially the GTAs.
I might be thinking of the PC version, actually.
Yet, the PS2 edition of Viewtiful Joe was the the one to own.
...and why?
I generally went with either the GC version or the Xbox version. On games with a lot of resetting and segmentation, the GameCube version's blazingly fast load times overcame the Xbox version's slightly less muddy picture.
If it had online functionality that was worth the time or a level editor, I got the Xbox version so I could more easily share my custom content.
ie I preferred the GameCube controller for Tony Hawk and played THPS3 and THPS4 to death on that platform, but got Underground for Xbox because all of the custom sprays and stuff were easier to have a ton of for that platform.
GameCube was also my choice for SSX3.
If it had online functionality that was worth the time or a level editor, I got the Xbox version so I could more easily share my custom content.
ie I preferred the GameCube controller for Tony Hawk and played THPS3 and THPS4 to death on that platform, but got Underground for Xbox because all of the custom sprays and stuff were easier to have a ton of for that platform.
GameCube was also my choice for SSX3.
Castef
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Tal Shiar Agent
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The PlayStation 2 version of Star Wars Battlefront 2 was superior to the Xbox version for the sole fact that it had user-hostable dedicated servers.
Yeah, Splinter Cell was the 'same' game but jesus the difference. This pic isn't as big as it should be but you get the idea.
GC PS2
PC Xbox
That's the same room? Wow. That's like a minigenerational leap right there.
nordique
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To be fair to the Gamecube in this thread however, most gamecube ports were not done well and were simply "souped up" PS2 ports
I'm sure if for instance with the Splinter Cell games more love went into the GC ports, we'd have seen better graphics than what we received.
GC wasn't well treated by third parties, especially most western third parties.
RE4 was an example of pushing the GC and I remember the lighting & particles, never mind textures, in that game looking much superior (like a great deal superior) than the PS2 version.
But with say the Splinter Cell games, they just looked like straight ports from the PS2 versions.
edit: ah yes, this
GC (L) - PS2 (R)
Personally, I especially remember the lightning part in the beginning of the game. That was the first time I was able to tell a huge difference between the two versions. Didn't make the PS2 version unplayable by any means, just meant the game should have been played on the Gamecube the way it was meant to be
I'm sure if for instance with the Splinter Cell games more love went into the GC ports, we'd have seen better graphics than what we received.
GC wasn't well treated by third parties, especially most western third parties.
RE4 was an example of pushing the GC and I remember the lighting & particles, never mind textures, in that game looking much superior (like a great deal superior) than the PS2 version.
But with say the Splinter Cell games, they just looked like straight ports from the PS2 versions.
edit: ah yes, this
GC (L) - PS2 (R)
Personally, I especially remember the lightning part in the beginning of the game. That was the first time I was able to tell a huge difference between the two versions. Didn't make the PS2 version unplayable by any means, just meant the game should have been played on the Gamecube the way it was meant to be
Cosmo Clock 21
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IIRC the Xbox version had better textures but worse shaders due to the GPU in the Gamecube. A lot of the areas in Episode 2 with heavy fog and water effects suffered on the Xbox version because of it.
Phire Phox
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That could also be said about the Xbox. The majority of multiplats were developed with PS2 as the lead platform and then ported to GCN and Xbox, rarely with any changes taking advantage of the GCN and Xbox's superior hardware.
I remember playing this Spongebob game and Dave Mirra BMX 2 on Gamecube and the Y button (top face button) was used to back out of menus instead of B like it usual is. They didn't even change the button layout from the PS2 versions.
The Abominable Snowman
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It has more particle effects and different reflections. The reflections in the Xbox version didn't have the simple lighting from the sparks or something, but the Xbox version had far better car/city/environment detail and resolution. So it depends on how far up you place sparks on your list of graphical oomph. Myself, I'd rate the higher resolution as a huge upgrade rather than sparks
Literally down the line the Xbox got superior versions of almost everything. No contest. The Hard Drive usually meant load times were down there with Gamecube or faster. There's literally no reason to get any other version of any game unless there was extra content on other consoles not available on the Xbox version.
Two playable characters are way better than one.
Only one new character was added in the PS2. Beside both version are just as good and you're doing nothing wrong if you just pick one version over the others.
I recall Max Payne 2 looking like shit on the PS2 compared to the Xbox version. Max's model especially looked really wonky on the PS2.
How did True Crime: Streets of LA compare on all three platforms? I recall that game being the only decent GTA clone on Gamecube so I wonder how that version compared to the others.
How did True Crime: Streets of LA compare on all three platforms? I recall that game being the only decent GTA clone on Gamecube so I wonder how that version compared to the others.
viewtiful_dru
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true for MvC2, but for CvS2 the PS2 port had parity with the DC version. Only real difference is the lack of AA
Hero of Legend
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Anyone play both the Wii and PS2 versions of Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity? I'm curious if the PS2 version ran in 30 or 60fps, it runs in flawless 60fps on Wii during gameplay AND cutscenes as well.
Some effects are missing on PS2 and the water in the water course is missing its reflection. Not sure if it supported 480p and 16:9 on PS2, both are yes on Wii.
The original Riders on GC ran in 60fps and had uber blocky textures (as if no filtering was used), textures are much better in ZG on Wii which of course uses texture filtering at least. So jarring when I played the original Riders on GC and saw that.
Also models on Wii ditched the Sonic Heroes shine which I THINK were used still but maybe subdued on PS2 of ZG.
Some effects are missing on PS2 and the water in the water course is missing its reflection. Not sure if it supported 480p and 16:9 on PS2, both are yes on Wii.
The original Riders on GC ran in 60fps and had uber blocky textures (as if no filtering was used), textures are much better in ZG on Wii which of course uses texture filtering at least. So jarring when I played the original Riders on GC and saw that.
Also models on Wii ditched the Sonic Heroes shine which I THINK were used still but maybe subdued on PS2 of ZG.
Makoto Yuki
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Nailed it.
The only game I played between two consoles and noticed graphical difference was RE4 between GC and PS2. I like GC more because of the controller and graphics, but that extra content on the PS2 was sweet. Thank goodness for the Wii version with GC controller support. HD version was rad too.
I also purchased Soul Calibur II on the GC because of Link. I read that Heihachi was the console exclusive character on PS2 and his ultimate weapon was
Tekken, his bare fists, after taking off his gauntlets, the man blocks blades with his bare flesh!
HDgaming42
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It would be super awesome if you would collate the data gleaned from this thread and edit it back into your OP.
as well, I seem to recall the Xbox PAL version of Alien Hominid being superior to the Gamecube, though I don't recall why. a quick trip to google did not jog my memory or provide the answer...
double edit: and though not strictly what you're asking (but my memory has been jogged by the PAL thing), I believe both ICO and Odin Sphere received superior PAL PS2 versions of their NTSC originals...
ICO having additional content and an extended ending perhaps, while OS had a better framerate and no slowdown?
eyeball_kid
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Generally the Xbox had higher texture res and draw distance, but the PS2 excelled at visual effects like rain due to its Cell architecture.
Fatal Frame II was better objectively on Xbox because it had a first-person mode, survival mode, higher-res graphics, and more unlockables.
Fatal Frame II was better objectively on Xbox because it had a first-person mode, survival mode, higher-res graphics, and more unlockables.
XANDER CAGE
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what
Yeah, Splinter Cell was the 'same' game but jesus the difference. This pic isn't as big as it should be but you get the idea.
GC PS2
PC Xbox
I played the original Splinter Cell on GC first, and had no idea what the fuss was about. I saw the Xbox version a year later and I was blown away.
CELL is PS3's awesomeness/burden.
The PS2's advantage with some visual effects was likely a result of the, uh, "GPU" architecture. It had garbage shading capabilities, but the theoretical peak throughputs were absurdly high in some respects, particularly with framebuffer access. The console probably had solid performance with transparencies and such.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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3s is better on PS2 than Dreamcast. Dreamcast version has glitches where some combos didn't work. Can't remember which ones but some of Ken's afair
BumperLips
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One game where the PS2 ver > GC ver was Tales of Symphonia. Some said that there were some issues with it like framerate, but after seeing all the content they added to it, I would always choose the PS2 ver
eyeball_kid
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Yeah, whoops, I meant the "Kutaragi Emotion Engine". Yeah, it's been a long time since I've delved into PS2 hardware details, but I remember reading something about being able to do insane amounts of pixel layering per frame to create effects.
Shin Johnpv
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Who ever told you that was wrong. I believe the GC version was in production before the PS2 one, so it being a port of the PS2 game just isn't possible, nor would it make any sense. Why would you take a working engine (the one from VJ1) and throw it away to take a version of that engine ported to PS2, and then port it back to GC.
Remember the first Viewtiful Joe game was a late port, that showed up like 12 - 14 months after the first game, and just like 3 months before the sequel hit.
I don't even think they'd have the time to scrap everything they did with VJ1 on GC, make the sequel on PS2 and then port it to GC in the 15 - 18 months between the release of VJ1 and 2.
VJ2 on GC had no performance issues at all, game ran great.
ElectricKaibutsu
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Correct. I would always choose what system to buy my games for in that order. The only exception was Soul Caliber 2 which I got on GC for obvious reasons.
True to an extent but Splinter Cell was a perfect showcase for the Xbox's lighting capabilities, the GC version was always going to look like a poor relation.
It's an interesting OP because as much is made out of the differences between PS4 and Xbox One, there were more telling differences between these 3 consoles. There was also a ton of great exclusives for each platform giving them real market separation and identity. Definitely one of my favourite generations.
Extra Sauce
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I remember playing half of San Andreas on PS2, only to start over on Xbox for the aspect ratio/resolution/performance upgrade... then came the time to shoot while driving and I wanted to cry. I never ended up finishing the damn game.
Well, there were strong qualitative differences in the overall capabilities and featuresets in the sixth gen. In addition to the core performance, you had things like Xbox HDD and Gamecube disc speed.
It's nothing compared to fifth-gen, though. If Xbox/GC/PS2 is grannysmith/braeburn/golden, PSX/Saturn/N64 is potato/airplane/octopus.
Chinpoko_Master
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I've played through both versions extensively and I never really noticed a huge graphical difference while I was playing through them until I saw the side-by-side comparisons. The game definitely looks better on GC, but it still looks pretty good on PS2.
Does anyone know of multiplatform games that ran at 30 fps on PS2 but were 60 on the Xbox and/or Gamecube? I believe this is the case for the following:
Prince of Persia games (60 fps on Xbox only)
Tomb Raider Legend (60 on Xbox and Gamecube)
Sonic Heroes (60 on Xbox and Gamecube)
Vexx (60 on Xbox and Gamecube)
Mercenaries (60 on Xbox)
(I'm going by what I've read, since I don't own multiple versions of any of these games)
On the other side of the coin, Wreckless: The Yakuza Missions ran at 60 fps on the PS2 but only 30 on the Xbox. Of course, the Xbox version had some of the best graphics on the entire system but the PS2 port looked like a glorified PS1 game.
Prince of Persia games (60 fps on Xbox only)
Tomb Raider Legend (60 on Xbox and Gamecube)
Sonic Heroes (60 on Xbox and Gamecube)
Vexx (60 on Xbox and Gamecube)
Mercenaries (60 on Xbox)
(I'm going by what I've read, since I don't own multiple versions of any of these games)
On the other side of the coin, Wreckless: The Yakuza Missions ran at 60 fps on the PS2 but only 30 on the Xbox. Of course, the Xbox version had some of the best graphics on the entire system but the PS2 port looked like a glorified PS1 game.
Just Cause
Basically a generational difference. This was the first video I saw where I was like 'WOW' @ the difference between Xbox/PS2. Didn't know what I was missing that entire generation *sigh*
EDIT: Fixed link.
Basically a generational difference. This was the first video I saw where I was like 'WOW' @ the difference between Xbox/PS2. Didn't know what I was missing that entire generation *sigh*
EDIT: Fixed link.
XANDER CAGE
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Red Dead Revolver was 60 on Xbox and 30 on PS2.
Interesting... one review I'm reading says that the Xbox version's framerate jumped all over the place though,
Any other examples?
your poetry sucks
Your link is broken, but I found this.
Damn at how underpowered the PS2 was compared to the competition. The 2560-bit bus proves why HW shouldn't be made of numbers
I wonder how the third party games at the time would look had the Xbox or GC been used as lead platforms most of the time. It totally explains why GTA III games were so ugly. PS2 graphics almost look PSPish without knowing why.