stenbumling
Unconfirmed Member
If they can renew Halt and Catch Fire for a fourth season, you better believe Better Call Saul will get one. I wouldn't worry.
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Better Call Saul S3 |OT| Gus Who's Back - Mondays 10/9c on AMC
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If they can renew Halt and Catch Fire for a fourth season, you better believe Better Call Saul will get one. I wouldn't worry.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I've changed my mind. I thought it was off the cuff, but why would Jimmy(a lawyer) go to the office without a copy of his policy? I'm sure he's been over it with a fine tooth comb and I am sure he knows exactly where it is.
I'm sure he channeled some genuine pain to get those tears flowing, but now I am sure the whole thing was planned.
Because he assumed they could just look him up. Which they could and did.
Also, why do you think Jimmy would be familiar with the fine print of his policy?
Remember this is the guy that almost lost his considerable sign-on bonus because he didn't thoroughly read the stipulation in his own contract before trying to quit.
SporeCrawler
Member
didnt jimmy make good money while at davis and maine. he also seemed to be full of clients when he opened his venue..
Robdraggoo
Member
Most of not all his clients were wills. Pro ably not a lot of money in that. He probably spent a lot of his Davis money in that building and starting up the practice
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
1) It wasn't even a smile really, more like a smirk or even a grimace. He seemed boiling with anger rather than happy. That face was a "Fuck you, Chuck", not "tee hee, nailed it".
2) Why? Even if it was a smile, it could just be a "oh wow, sometimes I surprise myself with my own cleverness" kind of smile.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Fair points, I did imagine he'd at least have his argument in order if that's why he went in there.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's earlier episodes where he's charging a few hundred bucks to do the wills. Yeah, he has a lot of clients but he's not making a ton of money off of them.
He also spent a lot of money WHILE working at Davis, remember all the shit he bought? Whatever he had left he sunk into opening the office, I'd say he's real close to being completely broke at this point.
Can't believe there's only 3 episodes left, have loved this season but did not realize how far into it we were already.
UltimaPooh
Member
I don't think it was planned.
Jimmy isn't calculating like Walt. He improvises a lot and is a grifter not some chess genius.
Jimmy isn't calculating like Walt. He improvises a lot and is a grifter not some chess genius.
SporeCrawler
Member
depends how he gets paid. if he bills by hour he definately seemed like he is full all day every day. if he asks for a flat fee for one will... well the clients usually take their time so it is not going to be easy to make much money. in any case drafting wills will not cost that much time and effort and there may be some follow up issues too (maybe nothing major like the sandpiper stuff).
It should be noted that Jimmy's money problems are partially self inflicted.
He wouldn't be as desperate for money if he didn't do dumb shit like keep on a secretary they have no use for and keep paying for a two person building that only one of them is using. It's like an overcompensation response, where the more financially frivolous he should be, the more he spends money on shit he doesn't need. Shit, he ordered chinese on his own dollar and then took Kim to a bar where they spent even more money.
Pride is a bitch.
He wouldn't be as desperate for money if he didn't do dumb shit like keep on a secretary they have no use for and keep paying for a two person building that only one of them is using. It's like an overcompensation response, where the more financially frivolous he should be, the more he spends money on shit he doesn't need. Shit, he ordered chinese on his own dollar and then took Kim to a bar where they spent even more money.
Pride is a bitch.
The Horror the horror
Banned
I don't think it was planned at all.
Jimmy was done with Chuck and was content with forgetting his existence altogether despite his brother being responsible for the 12-month suspension and Jimmy's present struggles. Jimmy loses his license for a year, Chuck would be without the help/love of his brother indefinitely. They were square. It was when Jimmy learned that the actions perpetuated by his brother would have a residual effect even outside of that 12-month punishment, in the form of hiked premiums, that Jimmy broke down and felt he had to answer to the excessive penalty with reconciliatory malice.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
#TeamNotPlanned
Jimmy doesn't really have a reason to bury Chuck anymore. They won. He went to the office to get his money back, which makes sense given how strapped for cash he is. I think there were two turning points in the conversation. The first was when he gave his name but she brought up Chuck. It's always about Chuck. I think that irks Jimmy a bit. The second was when he realized he wasn't getting the money back and his rates would go up. It's at that point that he lashes out.
Jimmy doesn't really have a reason to bury Chuck anymore. They won. He went to the office to get his money back, which makes sense given how strapped for cash he is. I think there were two turning points in the conversation. The first was when he gave his name but she brought up Chuck. It's always about Chuck. I think that irks Jimmy a bit. The second was when he realized he wasn't getting the money back and his rates would go up. It's at that point that he lashes out.
Cornballer
Member
- Inside Better Call Saul Ep 7 (AMC vid)
- AMC Q&A: Mark Proksch (Daniel Wormald/Pryce)
- AMC Q&A: Tom Schnauz (Executive Producer)
- AMC Q&A: Mark Proksch (Daniel Wormald/Pryce)
- AMC Q&A: Tom Schnauz (Executive Producer)
For real, it would have been pretty out there for him to have planned the entire ruse. There were easier ways to make Chuck's mental condition known to that company without having to carefully stitch a conversation like that. They also set it up with Jimmy being unable to solve the situation over the phone and always being put on hold, which is why he had to go there personally to deal with it. He was there to solve his business, but things got derailed.
On the other hand, I'm a bit lost in regards to where they're going with Mike. We know how the character ends up, and so far his arc has been taking him opposite of that. Kaylee and her mother are invulnerable as far as BCS goes, so I'm curious about how they'll make the shift to "just kill the witnesses" Mike.
On the other hand, I'm a bit lost in regards to where they're going with Mike. We know how the character ends up, and so far his arc has been taking him opposite of that. Kaylee and her mother are invulnerable as far as BCS goes, so I'm curious about how they'll make the shift to "just kill the witnesses" Mike.
Cornballer
Member
Schnauz and Banks give each other a tooooon of shit on the podcast. He's just joking around.
Cornballer
Member
Apropos.
I knew it! Wouldn't have made any sense for it to have been con from the start.
Reckless Abandon
Member
Was pretty meh on this episode, but the Nacho/Mike conversation was a cool moment. Really falling in love with Nacho as a character, but since
, something bad will probably happen to him. Even foreshadowed that a bith with Mike warning him several times to check all his bases.
Halt and Catch Fire is a great show, and I would recommend it to any fan of character-based dramas like Saul. I am very happy to get a proper final season despite utterly shit ratings it has gotten. Someone up high at AMC must love it.
he doesn't show up in Breaking Bad (at least as far as I remember)
Halt and Catch Fire is a great show, and I would recommend it to any fan of character-based dramas like Saul. I am very happy to get a proper final season despite utterly shit ratings it has gotten. Someone up high at AMC must love it.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Well I appear to have been wrong in my interpretation! Let me think about what this means in terms of his actual anguish.
Human Trashcan
Banned
There are dozens of us! Yeah Halt is a fucking great show after the shaky first season (last few eps of season 1 were fantastic tho), it really deserves to be watched by a lot more people.
I think what it means is that knowing what Saul eventually becomes, there is room to overestimate his cunning now, and underestimate his capacity for real personal grief. That's actually what makes the show so interesting to watch. These are mostly morally ambiguous people, but goddamn, they feel like actual -people-. Which is important.
The Driver
Member
Definitely, this is supposed to get 5 seasons also right? I don't know if they have somekind of catalyst planned this season that sets him on that path but this Mike is a far cry from the guy who in his first appearance is cleaning up the body of a girl who has choked on her own vomit.
HACF is amazing in seasons 2 and 3 and honestly pretty similar in tone to BCS. it similarly tracks the gradual shifts in relationships that lead to conflict. also this is mainly my partiality towards 80s post-punk/etc. music but the music selection in HACF is somehow even better than that of BCS/BB.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
This is hilarious to me because I quit HaCF right before the last few episodes of Season 1.
Guess I might go back to that!
Two or three episodes of the last season to give us some post-BB resolution would do it for me. Making it a whole season would probably be pushing it, unless the story revolved around Gene turning himself in and going to trial in hopes of redeeming himself, only to find himself defended by Kim, or something.
stenbumling
Unconfirmed Member
It will be a separate spin-off called Cinnabon Gene. Season 1 will be him figuring out he wants to leave, season 2 him planning to leave, season 3 him leaving, season 4 him forgetting his keys, season 5 him leaving for real. Will win 100 emmys
Lord of Castamere
Member
I would be fine with a season of Gene, if anything just to contrast the rushed finale of BB.
Nah Kim will be married to Chuck by that point and they'll be tracking him down to bring him to justice.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Man I really hope Pryce gets shot. Been a while since a fictional character irritated me so intensely.
I really wonder what the endgame for the flash forwards are
I'm sure the writers are wondering the same thing, honestly.
Invite the audience to a big Cinnabon party of course
Human Trashcan
Banned
I'm gonna be surprised if the frame narrative ever takes center stage. I just don't think this is that show or will be that show. I think some of you guys are really setting yourselves up for disappointment there. I could be wrong, it's just my gut feeling based on what this show has been about up to this point.
yeah I doubt we'll ever reach cinnabon gene for full stories or anything. in fact I wouldn't be surprised if s4 started with another cinnabon gene scene that doesn't even acknowledge his fainting at the start of 3. they're just there to illustrate how low jimmy succumbing to his worst qualities will eventually take him.
TheSinkingKnight
Member
Yeah, no new episode. Many networks are foregoing new content as it's Memorial Day Monday in the US.
I'd be surprised if they don't cover it for one season in the final season. I have this feeling that Kim is still around at that point and Jimmy will try to contact her to make amends for whatever happens between them.
I dunno, I like the connection. The references to Breaking Bad are what make the show interesting. I don't think Better Call Saul would be as popular if it was stand alone.
There are plenty of spin off shows that have been sequels, but I was trying to think of other shows that were/are a prequel? Fear the Walking Dead. Star Trek Enterprise. Probably a lot more, but it's not a format that has been done successfully a lot.
Grinchy
Banned
hahaha, I hope we see a ton of him
I love that guy who played the character. He's kinda down on his luck. He has to work part-time at a horribly-run movie theater.
Rewatched Saul's introductory episode in Breaking Bad today.
Saul is a completely different person, literally to such an extent I almost feel it's almost going to be impossible for this show to get the character to that point in any kind of convincing way. At one point, he literally comes on to Francesca by offering to follow her home and then mentions how he has an obsession with her ass. The dude is a straight up amoral creep, who cheerfully discusses offing Badger and boasting about getting handjobs from masseuses.
How far can this character possibly fall in the space of six years?
Saul is a completely different person, literally to such an extent I almost feel it's almost going to be impossible for this show to get the character to that point in any kind of convincing way. At one point, he literally comes on to Francesca by offering to follow her home and then mentions how he has an obsession with her ass. The dude is a straight up amoral creep, who cheerfully discusses offing Badger and boasting about getting handjobs from masseuses.
How far can this character possibly fall in the space of six years?
the show's status as prequel is interesting some of the timeand I like that together Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad basically make for an epic-length coen bros movie, with BCS being the simmering first half and BB being the second half where everything goes to shitbut I doubt most fans of this show would say the connection is what makes the show interesting. like, the worst parts of this show have probably been the moments in this season where it's just teasing that gus exists, referencing what's to come in a shallow way.
Same thing with Mike and Francesca. Mike has to go from someone who's distraught over the killing of an innocent man to thinking it's no big deal to kill them while robbing a train. Francesca has to go from being nice, shy, and nervous to standing up to Heisinberg and ordering him to give her 25k.