Same here. Keep hearing people complain about it like it's some deal breaking thing, but nobody can explain what it is lol.
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Same here. Keep hearing people complain about it like it's some deal breaking thing, but nobody can explain what it is lol.
My cannon...
The real Bloodborne starts now.
Not even just about speedruns this time. Speedrunners will adapt and change their route and keep running, but many interesting builds that were only possible in early game because of this skip are no longer possible. This game is very limited in the amount of options you have for early game weapons compared to something like Dark Souls, now if you want a Reiterpallasch run, you have to play half the game before you can start your run.
The amount of stuff you could get earlier for interesting playthroughs was vastly improved by that skip.
But oh well, what can we do.
Beating her doesn't change the sky, the adage does, just don't get the cutscene and everything will keep working fine.
Stare-Bear
Banned
I'm no expert, but I think the basic gist is: the game runs at 30 frames per second. Frame pacing concerns the regularity of each of these frames. As an extreme example, you could have one frame taking half a second, then the other 29 frames squeezed into the other half, which would look like a juddery mess - even though there are still 30 frames being displayed within that second. With a 30fps game, I think each frame should be displayed for 33.33 milliseconds - if that timing is off, even though the game is technically running at 30 frames every second, it will still look a little juddery in motion.
KittenMaster
Member
I put a note on the fence before the patch. >_>
But not having the skip anymore means you can't do stuff like
go to Cainhurst early or collect Twin Shards before the game would normally allow you.
Would it be possible to rollback the patch and create a save file that opens the shortcut the skip allows you to unlock?
Would I also be able to backup that save file so I can pull it up whenever I want to start a fresh file that takes advantage of the skip?
You'd have to delete Bloodborne off your PS4 and re-download it, and once the update pops up cancel it. Then just play the game in offline mode and it will be vanilla BB.
You can backup your save to the cloud to use whenever you wish.
test_account
XP-39C²
Did you beat
Rom
Rom, the sky changes
Vicar Amelia
EDIT: Apparently the
sky doesnt change
Amelia
Oh ok. Some guy said that the moon disappeared, so i assumed that it had something to do with that.
super-famicom
Member
Sequence breaking into Forbidden Woods got removed? Dunno how I feel about that. I liked being able to rush for White Church Set and Graveguard Set with new characters. I don't do the echoes glitch.
Any word on if characters who did the skip get affected by this patch in a negative way?
Any word on if characters who did the skip get affected by this patch in a negative way?
Toytown Assassin
Member
Has anyone managed coop since the patch? I just drop the server and get dumped to the menu every time I ring the resonant bell.
I posted this in the OT as well a bit earlier today:
A 30 fps framerate is to provide 30 unique frames per second. According to Digital Foundry's analysis, Bloodborne does a very good job at this.
However, correct framepacing is to make sure each frame is on the screen for the same amount of time, 33.33 ms per frame for a 30 fps game. Bloodborne has a problem with this, which results in judder even when the game is providing the correct 30 unique frames per second.
Collateral22
Member
Load times were never more than 25 seconds for me. Not sure the reasoning on it but now I'm expecting near instant load times :x
Reduced by.
PigzFly
Member
No, I ran through the game in the somewhat intended order and haven't made it to
Shadow of Yharnam or Rom
The only skip character I have played post-patch seems to be okay.
RedAssedApe
Banned
are there videos of what it should look like without the frame pacing issues? the problem is that the average person probably just writes it off as your typical frame rate issues on consoles. the actual result to visuals and controls doesn't sound like it'd be too different from if the game was just dropping frames?
well that's underwhelming
Teletraan1
Banned
Will wait to buy until frame pacing is sorted out. That shit drives me crazy and I will never finish this game if it is present. I have a few console games with poor frame pacing that I did not care to finish. I dont feel like adding another to the list even though I really want to play this. No excuse on fixed hardware period.
Reduced by, across the board.
it's quite substantial, imo. I I doubt they would be able to make it instant suddenly.
MMaRsu
Banned
How is it underwhelming?
benicillin
Banned
Great news! Looking forward to my second playthrough, I swapped over to DS2 once I heard there was a patch coming in for Bloodborne.
You know that's not going to happen.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Well for me and my buds they were like 40-50 seconds before.
So them being 30-35 is still not great
Man...I loved being able to resume. Even hiding somewhere and having to jet. I've had the game disconnect on me, take me to the main menu, but then also bring me back to the exact same spot. So, I don't exactly get how this game works in that regard - even on my NG++.
Seems like an odd way to fix an online issue, but during the main development of Bloodborne, the PS4 didn't even have this feature.
I have a feeling it isn't going to be fixed. I'm not sure if they're just not seeing it or if they really can't solve it but it's very annoying.
I will say that, despite the fact that it drives me nuts, I've still managed to have a really good time with the game. It's good enough to overcome that but, man, it really could use a fix.
It's definitely not related to background streaming or demands on the system either. If you go to Hunter's Dream and stand in the middle spinning the camera you'll find that every 5 seconds or so you get a couple seconds of messed up frame times.
Interfectum
Member
They probably didn't code in re-authentication functions into Bloodborne for when the PS4 goes from suspend to resume. Doing so now would require quite a bit of testing so kicking you back out to the title screen is easiest way to handle that.
the numbers still seem high but I think it'll be quite noticeable during gameplay. going into Hunter's Dream should be super fast now since loading for that wasn't so bad compared to normal areas.
Toytown Assassin
Member
Reload on death is down to 15 seconds though which is pretty good.
doctorblurg
Banned
Im most excited for the item descriptions on the loading times.
They cut loading times by 1/3 in a few weeks work on a patch after years of development, that is a god damn miracle and I cannot even comprehend your point of view.
friskykillface
Banned
Lol just when I'm near the end 
But pre patch x loading issues were worth it , fantastic game
But pre patch x loading issues were worth it , fantastic game
Bjomesphat
Banned
Same here. I've never experienced 30+ second load times. Warping to Hunter's Dream was always speedy and took less than 10 seconds.
Inferno313
Banned
Probably been asked... Are the loading screens 5-15 seconds long now? Or have they been reduced by 5-15 seconds?
Interfectum
Member
Reduced by.
Monochromaticx
Member
these fast load times
Alcoholikaust
Member
Nothing is longer than 11 seconds for me- but IM not using the shitty stock HDD
FalsettoVibe
Member
Can't wait to try this out later today.
I might not update until I've beaten the Chalices because of it. Is the game still playable without the update? Also, presumably there is a way to turn off auto updates?