it was a beefy game. i doubt it met their expectations with those numbers.
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Bloomberg: Nintendo to announce 18.7 Billion Yen loss for the fiscal year
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it was a beefy game. i doubt it met their expectations with those numbers.
Jesus, I didn't even notice Animal Crossing at 3.86 million. That's way higher than the Media Create numbers, right? Insane.
3DS should easily surpass it's goal with the games they have coming. Wii U... I don't know. 9 million is a lot considering it's current pace. They're going to need a price drop and games games games.
3DS should easily surpass it's goal with the games they have coming. Wii U... I don't know. 9 million is a lot considering it's current pace. They're going to need a price drop and games games games.
Nintendo hardware and software sales data updated:
So no Square Enix games on the WiiU possible...
On a serious note the WiiU sales are much higher than I would have guessed. For me it always looked like it would really struggle to reach GameCube numbers, but maybe Nintendo can salvage this one into shallow waters at the very least.
FearMyWrench
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This is what I thought too, since they're coming out of Nintendo's mouth and not Media Create or Famitsu. I don't know for sure though.
They somewhat explain their plans for the Wii U and 3DS for the year in the report but we'll obviously get more info tomorrow.
Nothing1016
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The 3DS is ratio is a huge problem. It needs to be at 1:6..... thats were the profit is at.
radio_apeshot
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So how is Wii U doing at 3.45 million compared to how 360 and PS3 performed back then at the same period of time?
if they sell 7m wii us between now and next year at this time, i will be kinda surprised. europe is pretty much a dead market, and japan doesn't buy consoles like they used to. that leaves a disproportionate amount of weight on america to pick up the slack. 4m in north america over the next year would basically be what the 3ds looked like last year. but they expect 9m, so another 3m in europe, and 2m in japan? not sure how they expect things to go down.
I'm pretty sure those numbers are shipped, not sold.
Colonel Mustard
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As indicated by what?
Maybe that's why they're 200 euros in euroland :/
pieatorium
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they are
Freezie KO
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It's a real shame, but I think you're right. It's a great game overflowing with content. Pit was in Smash Bros. Then they did the AR cards, the stand, the cartoon, and a decent amount of advertising. I saw promotions in Best Buy for the game.
Then again, they greenlit sequels to Sin and Punishment, Excite Truck, Luigi's Mansion, and Pikmin 2. So if they need a title to fill a release schedule, we may not have seen the last of Pit.
FearMyWrench
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Okay, just to confirm, at the bottom of the page it states "*Software units include the downloadable versions.". So that's cleared up.
shinra-bansho
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I wouldn't read too much into the first tie ratio, as there's probably a channel stuffed with titles that will never sell.
The 3DS ratio should grow over time, the NDS is a mature system. And typically handheld tie ratios are a lot lower than home consoles.
~2m could be possible in Japan depending on the titles if they handle their business post E3 and have a big holiday planned as well.
I don't know what to expect from Europe. I doubt it will do too well in the UK though.
pieatorium
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they are shipped i mean not sold.
they had high expectations for this dude. they made anime stuff and all. huge ads in gamestop. enormous ad campaign. tons of content in the game. they wanted this to be bigger than it was. it's a huge disappointment because it's such a good game.
MadOdorMachine
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Do the numbers reflect digital sales? That could be an explanation. It is a bit odd though.
CoffeeGames
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I don't think so. Sure, the Japanese software numbers aren't good, but it's probably because they're all playing Monster Hunter, and that's IT. It was a launch title over there, and knowing how popular it is there, I can see this being a (big) factor.
shinra-bansho
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The PS3 was 3.5M at March-07.
radio_apeshot
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Thanks for the info! I guess Nintendo can still turn this around.
what am i looking at on page 5?
Assuming it will have the same type of software support. Which it won't.
i mean, it's possible, but microsoft's sales were due to a shortage of supply. they also aggressively and successfully targeted at least one market (north america) during the year they were the only game in town. nintendo has no market anywhere, and the wii u is selling worse every week without any notable software to speak of.
i was joking.
pieatorium
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MH wiiU isn't even at 200k sold yet, less than 1/4 of WiiU ltd in japan. Software isn't selling there because there i no software.
AniHawk
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Rather sarcastic to boot.
(Today, 05:37 PM)
I'll pay better attention next time lol.
shinra-bansho
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The old, and kind of dodgy way Sony tracked shipments; "production shipments."
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html
Box of Bunnies
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Thanks
thanks. updated my post.
Gianni Merryman
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I gather it's shipped, not sold-through.
Nothing1016
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Operating Loss.
They suffered losses on their actual business activities, they had a slight profit on the re-evaluation of the currencies they hold.
Without them actually breaking down their cash reserves its likely they have less money nominally, but combined its worth more in Yen.
ElectricKaibutsu
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In summary, they got lucky with the exchange rate and ended up making a profit this year?
Panic analysis once more
yep, Yen at 100 is about normal... however, how are they planning to raise their revenues by 50%? Is it all due to Yen devaluation or? Thats my question.... how do they plan to make 50% more money next year?
What's the problem?
I think the restructuring costs are behind them
Wii U R&D is behind them
Wii U is almost breaking even
3DS sells at a profit and has become a success
Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Zelda, Tamagotchi, Monster Hunter 4, Mario Kart, the list goes on and on. should be clear sailing
Again, I'm no accounting freak but shouldn't the research costs have been accounted for when in previous years as research happens before a product enters development? I guess development of the Wii U did not just start this year.
And development costs should be depreciated over the useful life of the Wii U, right? So how does it come that R&D costs have a huge impact on profitability this year, if this even is the case?
Serious question here.
The result has come in almost twice as bad as predicted by just about everyone in the market. Can't blame Bloomberg.