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Breaking: R Kelly has been charged with sexual offences.
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Lightning Count
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Crocodile tears, he knows what he did.
I so hope the court hearing is televised, I want to watch when he gets sentenced to jail.
I so hope the court hearing is televised, I want to watch when he gets sentenced to jail.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It will be so wonderful seeing this court case on TV.
lil puff
Member
They need to blast this shit over all the big screens in Times Square.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
still blows my mind that so many hugely famous people like Lady Gaga continued to work with him even after that tape came out. this world is full of sellouts.
SoulChamber
Member
Basically. The only ones who would still defend pieces of shit like this are brain-dead idiots like the individuals who are defending pigs like Donald Trump & Roy Moore (sorry for bringing politics into it).
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Papa
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I will defend anyone's right to the presumption of innocence until they've had their day in court. I would say that if anyone's a piece of shit, it's those willing to throw away the presumption of innocence because they simply don't like a person.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
He believed he could fly, but then he got shot down by the FBI...
He'd think about teenage girls every night and day, but as a jail bird he can't just spread his wings and fly away...
He'd think about teenage girls every night and day, but as a jail bird he can't just spread his wings and fly away...
SoulChamber
Member
If you're a parent, would you trust a guy like this around your underaged daughter? I certainly hope not!
Papa
Banned
S SoulChamber used appeal to emotion! It's not very effective...
Of course I wouldn't, nor would I trust any other adult male around my adolescent daughter. But that's an entirely separate issue to defending someone's legal right to the presumption of innocence. Defending the right of R Kelly, Donald Trump or Roy Moore to the presumption of innocence in a court of law and suggesting they shouldn't be on trial in the court of public opinion (not a real court) doesn't make me or anyone else doing so a "brain-dead idiot".
Chairman Tickles
Banned
Well it was always known he diddled teens. Got away with it for a long time.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Didn't he pee on a bitch like 20 years ago?
5secondrulesucks
Banned
i mean its no surprise but its always funny how some people loved to defend him and the type of people were generally white college bros with spikey hair and pink button ups who take group pics and they are all holding bud lights and the other who wears 3xl white tall tees and flat brimmed hats
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AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
The jury couldn't conclude that it was him in the video IIRC, someone might need to fact check me on that. Also, don't go looking for it, it's online, but the girl's underage.
Lightning Count
Member
Not related. But the latest news is that he is back in jail now over failing to pay $161,000 in child support.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47478799
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47478799
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Papa
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Don’t know if it was ever conclusively proven. I think it’s highly likely he did what he’s accused of here, but that doesn’t matter.
JareBear: Remastered
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Wonder who will bail him out this time
Lightning Count
Member
This is not a small amount of money we’re talking about here and child support money is often decided by the court in the first place so this is no surprise it’s treated as a crime to not pay it.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
They knew it was him on the tape. The girl that he pee'd on said it wasn't her. Her parents said it wasn't her also. But her Aunt, friends, teachers, basketball coach, Principle, and police officers in the neighborhood that knew her all said it was her on the VHS tape.
The jury took the word of the little girl and not almost everybody else. One person on the jury said girls like her want the sex and didn't believe it is considered rape at all or something to that effect. He said that on camera!
This is such a stupid argument. I wouldn't trust my kid with a random stranger, doesn't mean I would a automatically assume they are guilty if child rape.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
To be fair MJ wasn't a random stranger to these families. Mike was a family friend that they got to know pretty well.
cryptoadam
Banned
right out the Jussi Smollett play book
lil puff
Member
A child's livelihood depends on that support. One parent should not be forced to work 2 jobs because the marriage didn't work.
To me it is a message that says honor your immediate responsibility.
Otherwise what repercussions would there be?
Fine someone who already doesn't pay their bills?
Try evading taxes. It's far worse.
lil puff
Member
My man, parts of the black community defended this dude for decades. Back in my day, no one said shit about this.
It was a big 'out if sight out of mind' thing.
In some communities, folks only care about what's in their bubble, and the outside barely exists.
llien
Member
The same as in case one has bank's debt?
I'm actually not having "an ass hole that simply doesn't want to pay" in mind, but rather "he actually can't pay that much due to financial difficulties". In this very case, he suggested paying 60k, but judge insisted on 160k.
lil puff
Member
I see what you are getting at, but...
Like poor old Multibillionaire bank is in financial trouble.
Tell that to the mom who has 3 kids, and still can't feed them on welfare, and daddy is on the block kickin it with his boys.
Children are more important and there should be a stronger penalty for disregarding them. Neglect can lead to cyclical problems further down the line and it is important imo to factor that into a penalty.
llien
Member
How does him sitting in prison help the kids?
Is the idea that a person fearing prison earns more?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
And many in the white community didn't care, even after the news went national. All races made it an "out of sight out of mind" thing.
Yes, but it back fires all the time. Because once the parent goes to jail, it makes it harder for him to get a job afterward. Meaning less money going into child support.
JareBear: Remastered
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Sad
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Lightning Count
Member
Can’t believe this, he’s been bailed out again. It seems an anonymous person paid off the child support.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47510170
It pisses me off so much that people are still supporting this guy, if he gets away with this I will lose what little faith I have in the American legal system.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47510170
It pisses me off so much that people are still supporting this guy, if he gets away with this I will lose what little faith I have in the American legal system.
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Aurelian
my friends call me "Cunty"
I half-expect the payer to be Chris Brown. Birds of a feather and all that.
lil puff
Member
Ridiculous. I mean I already lost faith but this would be a new low.
And those people are not getting paid back. Idiots ... paying for R. Kellys child support.
Musky_Cheese
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M is not for McDonald’s... it’s for mother
That killed me
That killed me
Smoke6
Member
What the fuck is this supposed to mean?
What the he’ll Chris brown had to do with anything related to shit R jelly is being accused of?
Man some of y’all have some nerve and we wonder why the justice system is fucked up as it is because everyone thinks they can put 2 and 2 together !
I don’t like this no more than the next person but everyone involved in his down fall should be jail as they ALL knew about his behavior!
Seems odd to me that he is broke and all these people he was allegedly paying off to keep quiet thought he was lying about being broke and putted him like this!
He shoulda been locked up years ago!!!
But to bring Chris brown in to this with that comment makes no sense and not even close! On top of that Chris went to jail and properly apologized for what he done!
llien
Member
R. Kelly 'sexual abuse' tape given to US authorities
A US man has claimed to have found a video tape allegedly showing R. Kelly "sexually abusing underage African-American girls."
Gary Dennis told reporters that he handed the tape to authorities after discovering it at his house.
Mr Dennis, a nursing home worker, said he came across the footage whilst sorting through a box of old video tapes.
He played one tape with a recording of a football match after finding it had been labelled "R. Kelly". He expected it to have been recorded over with an old concert.
Instead it contained sexual abuse, he alleges.
Whilst not going into detail, Mr Dennis said he saw "[R. Kelly] telling them what to do and what to say, and it appeared that he was in control of the camera."
The tape was then turned over to the US Attorney for the Eastern District of New York.
Ms Allred said Mr Dennis had no personal connection to the R&B singer and had "no idea" how or when he came to possess the videotape, adding that friends had given him tapes of sporting events in the past.
She said the tape appears to show a separate incident from those previously attributed to R. Kelly, but conceded that she could not be "100% certain" the man on the tape was him.
"The doubt here is self-evident," said Steve Greenberg, R. Kelly's lawyer.
"It is not him. The larger question is what the authorities are doing about the Dennis' possession of what they believe is child pornography in their tape collection."
"It is obviously now just open season on R. Kelly," Mr Greenberg continued.
"It is irresponsible to continue to take the speculation of every Tom, Dick and Harry, and report it as if it is fact."
BBC
A US man has claimed to have found a video tape allegedly showing R. Kelly "sexually abusing underage African-American girls."
Gary Dennis told reporters that he handed the tape to authorities after discovering it at his house.
Mr Dennis, a nursing home worker, said he came across the footage whilst sorting through a box of old video tapes.
He played one tape with a recording of a football match after finding it had been labelled "R. Kelly". He expected it to have been recorded over with an old concert.
Instead it contained sexual abuse, he alleges.
Whilst not going into detail, Mr Dennis said he saw "[R. Kelly] telling them what to do and what to say, and it appeared that he was in control of the camera."
The tape was then turned over to the US Attorney for the Eastern District of New York.
Ms Allred said Mr Dennis had no personal connection to the R&B singer and had "no idea" how or when he came to possess the videotape, adding that friends had given him tapes of sporting events in the past.
She said the tape appears to show a separate incident from those previously attributed to R. Kelly, but conceded that she could not be "100% certain" the man on the tape was him.
"The doubt here is self-evident," said Steve Greenberg, R. Kelly's lawyer.
"It is not him. The larger question is what the authorities are doing about the Dennis' possession of what they believe is child pornography in their tape collection."
"It is obviously now just open season on R. Kelly," Mr Greenberg continued.
"It is irresponsible to continue to take the speculation of every Tom, Dick and Harry, and report it as if it is fact."
BBC
Aurelian
my friends call me "Cunty"
Both shitty people who somehow remained relevant in the music scene when they should have been personas non grata years ago.
For reference: Brown has repeatedly been involved in violence, even as recently as 2018, and former girlfriend Karrueche Tran has an ongoing 5-year restraining order against him after he threatened to kill her. An apology doesn't matter if you keep doing the same things afterward. So, like I said, he and R Kelly are birds of a feather.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Please understand that this is "HIS" money that people are using. He's clearly taken money aside and has given it to people to help him out if and when he gets jailed.
You are being ridiculous. They have ZERO to do with each other. And why would Chris Brown bail out R. Kelly? So this is what we are doing now? One R&B singer goes to jail and now it's open season on all R&B singers?
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Aurelian
my friends call me "Cunty"
It's not serious -- I'm just suggesting that it'd only be 'fitting' if the guy who covered the bills for a scumbag musician like R Kelly was another scumbag musician, particularly one who got a free pass for abhorrent behavior by being famous.
Smoke6
Member
No!
Chris brown is nothing near what R KELLY is and being accused of at all not even in the same ball park. You come off as a Chris brown hater and seem to not believe in second chances or benefit of the doubt!
Have you ever experienced anything Chris brown has or know anyone that’s been thru what he’s been through?
If yes, then you’re out of line and if NO you have grounds to speak at all on the subject as a lot of male celebs have gotten restraining orders against them from angry women or bitter/jealous type. Last incident the woman lied on him!!!
Smoke6
Member
What it seems like to me, or his girlfriend/boyfriend had a huge crush on Chris brown as that came outta nowhere!
Neogaf is the last place I would expect to see a Chris brown fanboy(or girl. I don't know)
No one is serious about throwing Chris in jail (again). It was a harmless joke about how much celebrities are allowed to get away with. Calm down.
have I ever pummeled a woman in a car? No can't say I have
Tapioca
Banned
He married Aaliyah when she was 15. He was 27.
He's a pedo.
There's also a video of him fucking a teen.
https://www.biography.com/news/aaliyah-r-kelly-relationship-true-story
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Aurelian
my friends call me "Cunty"
I'm sorry, is Chris Brown some kind of personal hero to you? He's had multiple "second chances." Let me list the things he's done in rough chronological order:
- Beat Rihanna during a domestic dispute (this you know).
- Became violent during a break in an interview where he was asked about the Rihanna incident.
- Got into a fight with Drake and his entourage.
- Got into an altercation with Frank Ocean where Brown punched and threatened to shoot Ocean.
- Had his probation extended after a reported hit-and-run accident.
- Arrested for felony assault after he refused to pose for a picture with two men.
- Entered rehab, but was kicked out months later for violating the rehab center's rules.
- Refused to let police into his home after a woman said he threatened her with a gun, triggering a standoff.
- Threatened to kill his one-time girlfriend Karrueche Tran, leading to a 5-year restraining order.
- Arrested for felony battery after a Florida show.
You notice the pattern? He might not be as sinister as R Kelly, but he's a man who routinely turns to violence and seems to have a particular problem with threatening women. "Sorry" from him doesn't seem to mean anything.
Felony assault, failed rehab, multiple acts of violence is something 25 year old just do?
Are you trolling ?