vpance
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The upcoming Panny DX900 is really good too.
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Buying a 4K TV for PS4K thread!
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The upcoming Panny DX900 is really good too.
Thanks. Seems low considering 4K content *should* have a crazy high bitrate, but I just read that netflix 4K and a 4K Blu Ray are a huge disparity in quality. 4K streaming is compressed as fuck.
Being able to see Kevin Stacey's Manly face with more detail. Being able to see his greying hair with more clarity. Being able to watch him win the 2016 election with more colour.
#FrankUnderwood2016
Hawk269
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It will still be good, but we don't know enough of the neo to say for sure. What I can say is that I doubt a $400 box can output 4k/60fps games, unless they are flat shaded polygon games and static lighting etc. If you are strictly looking at 4k for gaming on console, most 4k sets will be fine as long as they have good scaler, but if you want HDR, you want PC gaming 4k/60fps and Chroma 4:4:4, you need a more advanced 4k TV to handle all of that.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Do people actually think this thing will get near 4K with games?
Movies, sports, youtube, other stuff (hopefully 4k bd). Netflix already has 4k.
I have a 70" 4k set I bought late last year. UHD content via netflix looks great, but the bump from 1080p to 2160p is less obvious than 720p to 1080p. I also don't bother gaming in 4k because I value high frame rates more than extra pixels.
The set isn't HDR though. I saw it side by side with a more expensive tv and I honestly didn't see a difference. I would write it off as enthusiast fluff (like the audiophiles who insist that their platinum-plated, virgin blood-soaked speaker wire sounds so much better), but I'm partially colorblind.
The set isn't HDR though. I saw it side by side with a more expensive tv and I honestly didn't see a difference. I would write it off as enthusiast fluff (like the audiophiles who insist that their platinum-plated, virgin blood-soaked speaker wire sounds so much better), but I'm partially colorblind.
TerryLee81
Member
I disagree, could never go back to LCD. The perfect blacks from every angle alone make it worth it for me.
Hawk269
Member
If it comes out. I still have last years Panasonic the 850U and it is a fantastic set. The new DX900 looks great, but still no mention on when and if it will come to North America. It released in Europe and Japan, but that is about it. Last years Panasonic was only sold by ONE US Retailer called Value Electronics out of New York. If you live in the U.S. your only choice to buy last years Panasonic was direct through them or Value Electronics.
I am not really sure what is going with them this year. I was waiting for them to release it, but they have not and the new Sony 940d FALD just released within the last 2 weeks and I decided to get that instead.
Joshua1979
Member
Really... if you want 4K buy a good pc
Hawk269
Member
If you could not tell the difference between HDR and NON HDR then it was not set up properly or you have very bad vision. HDR is more noticeable change than 1080p to 4k is. It is almost immediate difference when first seen. I never seen HDR until I bought my new set and ran the same movie on my 2013 4k Sony set vs. 2015 Panasonic 4k and my new set and the difference was immediate due to HDR.
MaximusPayne
Member
Do people actually think this thing will get near 4K with games?
I would get it knowing it can do 4k content. Games will look good but nothing 4k anytime soon.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Ya damn right... I noticed a huge difference in PQ on a 43" 4K versus a 1080p set of the same size in the distance recommended that you supposedly cannot tell.
Pixel density is king in these instances.
PhilipDoesMatter
Member
Man I live in Brazil too and I say to you don't do it. It's still way too expensive here so you cannot miss on that.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
Still pointless to buy a 4k tv. Almost no content and PS4k games wont run at 4k
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I have the X830C which does not have 3D. I would not have purchased it, but got a deal for the 49" for $600 brand new, so I just jumped on it over the $700 1080p set I was eyeing (W800C). Was not even in the market for 4K until the price fell in my lap, and notice how good it scales 1080p and that nice small pixel density.
However, I do notice active 3D seems to be 'darker', but I think that is something that can be tweaked in turning off some things in the settings. Possibly with the color temps. I noticed it was darker in game mode, but that was because it defaulted to Expert 1 un-tweaked, so I changed it to Neutral in that mode, and it brightened right up like it is in TV watching modes. Maybe that will help?
Well in that case, I will be blown away with UHD, because Netflix 4K and even YouTube 4K seemed to shit all over 1080p Blu-ray to me, even on a native 1080p set.
The 4K streaming looks fantastic to me with both those apps/services.
Caayn
Member
Same with streaming 1080p and playing a 1080p blu-ray.
Netflix uses roughly 15.6M/bits with the h.265 codec for 4k stream, while a 1080p blu-ray can use 40M/bits with the h.264 codec. 15.6M/bits would roughly translate to 30M/bits on a h.264 codec. Leaving the 1080p blu-ray with a higher effective bitrate while using an older codec and only outputting a fourth of the pixels. Crazy when you think about it.
Audible Phonetics
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Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Yea I have gone thru all the settings, and used a few custom profiles from AV forums, but it only marginally helps. I have been using active 3D since 2011 when I got my previous Bravia and the new one is noticeably darker. I suppose I can just learn to live with it.
Sevket-Erhat
Member
I bought a Samsung 48" 4K already
Marty Chinn
Member
4K uses h.265 codec which is a lot more efficient. So they can get away with using less bandwidth. That said, it's still low balling a good 4K quality because of the bitrate.
I think it's because they can. I think most people care for knowing it's 1080p, or 4K rather than the quality of the bitrate which is by far more important. They just don't seem to care other knowing that they are watching it at high res without the context of what that means. It's the reason they're content with Netflix rather than wanting Blu rays. I think there's going to be an increase in the lack of caring when it comes to 4K. As long as they're told it's 4K, it's good enough.
Luc1fersBeard
Member
I wouldn't go rushing out to buy a 4K TV for 'PS4K/Neo'. The chance of it running games in 4K is slim to none (aside from maybe a few select indie titles). The fact that anyone thinks it will be running games in 4K is pretty out there. There are people running SLI Titan X and SLI 980ti setups that cannot run new games comfortably in that resolution. However, buying a 4K TV for film content is a great idea as it looks outstanding.
Maybe get an eye test. I have 27" 4K monitor and the difference in enormous. Like night and day. This isn't like 720p < 1080p.
Saying that, I'm not buying a new TV as an add on to a console which doesn't yet exist. I'll wait a year or so to see how PS4K takes off, and by then I'll probably just wait for PS5 tbh.
Robot Pants
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lol k
oh ur banned lolololol
I have a Sony 65" Bravia and I love it to death. 4K is definitely worth it right now especially with the PS4K. Having an all in one machine that plays 4K Blu-Ray and upscales games is gonna be very worth it.
I recently got a 50" Samsung SUHD 4K TV, and I can't see the diference between 4K and 1080p signals from 6 feet away. I wouldn't waste money on a 48" 4K TV or below.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
You're also most likely sitting way closer to a 27" computer monitor than you are to a TV set.
I mean, relatively speaking. I want it to be able to last 5+ years without feeling obsolete by the time PS5/etc comes out. I just wanna get one before Zelda U comes out (I just want a bigger TV for that, 65" is what fits in my living room - the 4K etc etc would be for future tech).
I'm most likely gonna buy a 4K also after Neo comes out. But it makes no sense to buy one now. 4K TV prices are only going to continue to come down. And if Neo is released this holiday season, I can get a much better deal by then. If it's going to be released next year, even better.
And if you're buying a 4K TV make sure it has HDR, otherwise you are purchasing something that is already outdated.
And if you're buying a 4K TV make sure it has HDR, otherwise you are purchasing something that is already outdated.
Audible Phonetics
Member
It has not been confirmed if the ps4 Neo will play 4k Blurays.
If it doesn't, then that might be the one of the stupidest moves yet by Sony. In fact, I believe that the sole purpose of existence for the Neo is to push the sales of 4K TV and content. And 4K Bluray is a big part of that.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Mine is 21 ms, I can't notice a difference. It's a myth that 4K TV's all have terrible input lag.
Wait for UHD premium TVs to hit.....they have a set standard they must meet to hit that premium name. UHD premium is going to be the standard. So you could say all 4k TVs out right now are obsolete
Marty Chinn
Member
Well except for the ones out right now that are UHD Premium rated. =)
Oooooo.......list me one please, lol
65 inch of course! dear God put a spoiler on that price though lol
If it doesn't play 4K blu rays, then anyone who buys a 4K tv just because of this console is an idiot. You will be buying a 4K TV to upscale to 4K that any 4K TV already does with the existing PS4.
RealityCheque
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If you have to, get one with HDR. Or wait until they actually announce what the ps4k is.
(hint: games won't be 4k, it's just a tagline they can put on the box and push in their marketing)
(hint: games won't be 4k, it's just a tagline they can put on the box and push in their marketing)
games could potentially run at higher than 1080p, just not quite 4K, so the upscaling isn't extreme?
is that a thing?
SEGAvangelist
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Of course it could be. I don't see why not.