FrontierWhiskey
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Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2 - |OT| - Dead and Loving It!
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A secret agenda? Please, please elaborate.
Punished_Snake
Member
I'm at the final third of the game and I don't agree with 4-5 out 10 scores. Yes, the stealth segments are bad and some of the environments aren't attractive, but giving a game a 4 or 5 means that the game is unplayable. Anyone giving this game below 7 is a joke.
Nier was kind of special though in that the story was strong enough to carry it and the gameplay wasn't a big obstacle by the time it would've worn out its welcome unless you stubbornly went with Hard. This probably doesn't really have that advantage, as much as I want to see how this ends.
Hero of Canton
Member
No. 5 is average, 4 is below average, and in each of these reviews, the text more than justifies the score.
People go on about critics using the 7-10 scale, and then whenever anyone dips below it, it's "a joke" or "means that the game is unplayable". Nonsense.
Domstercool
Member
I never understood that either. 4-5 just means the game is either average or below average - it doesn't mean it doesn't work.
I've enjoyed quite a few 5/10 games, because what some people might see as average, I saw as still fun to play.
I've enjoyed quite a few 5/10 games, because what some people might see as average, I saw as still fun to play.
swazzyswess
Member
I'm not at all shocked by these scores... I got a similar impression of the game's blandness compared to LoS1 when I played the demo.
But yeah, it's a conspiracy that all the negative reviews say the same things, definitely not because the game has glaring shortcomings. Give me a break.
But yeah, it's a conspiracy that all the negative reviews say the same things, definitely not because the game has glaring shortcomings. Give me a break.
infinityBCRT
Member
Just reading some reviews quickly seems like this one single stealth section (which I'm guessing only accounts for like 2.5% of gameplay in the whole game at most) is killing most reviewers impressions of the game. I've also read criticisms about the combat which doesn't ring true with me at all based on LOS1 and what I've played from the demo of LOS2.
Well, I've argued before the truth is a bit of both: 7-10 are likely encompassing the games that are really worth checking out, while 5 would ideally represent a game that's not inherently broken but just isn't particularly fun or interesting (inversely, it IS a significantly broken game but is interesting/unique enough to balance it out to an extent.) Those 5 games are likely perfectly fine and serviceable to play... if you have nothing better to do. But if you have other entertainment options or even something more productive to do then it's a waste of time to bother with even if it's not actually BAD.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Where is the STEAM release? ARRRGHHHH!
I hate the way this service releases games.
I hate the way this service releases games.
Games in the last year I enjoyed despite review consensus: Remember Me, Lightning Returns, Contrast, Killer Is Dead (need to finish that), Castlevania Mirror of Fate (HD versions), Project X Zone, The Novelist.
It's not just Nier, reviews have been hovering away from me for a long time now.
I've yet to even mention the games I dislike despite reviews heaping praise on them.
Facism
Member
Petulance doesn't add authority to a post.
The Praiseworthy
Member
What the hell is going on?!
I'm Almost half the way through the game and let me tell you something... this game is a SOLID 7+.
4s and 5s.... come on, this is seriously making me questioning (are they playing the same game as mine) :\
I'm Almost half the way through the game and let me tell you something... this game is a SOLID 7+.
4s and 5s.... come on, this is seriously making me questioning (are they playing the same game as mine) :\
Bloodworth
Member
One of the worst and oddest things about Dracula's stealth is that it turns a notorious predator into a helpless weakling. If it had to be there, you should be creeping through the dark assassinating dudes like Sam Fisher on a good night, instead it's about figuring out some lame puzzle.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Mixed reviews don't bother me, but I've been wary of this game for months and the mixed reaction isn't really persuading me at this point.
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For fans of the first game who are playing or have already finished LoS2, what does the progression of the game feel like in comparison to the first? Above all, my biggest takeaway from LoS1 was that even in its slowest moments at the beginning, it felt like a classic adventure with forward moving momentum through location after location of beautiful backdrops. From the footage I've seen of LoS2, that pacing feels changed in favor of more exploratory based traversal and the environments don't seem as frequently nice looking. I can appreciate combat improvements and opening the game up a bit, but that's not really why I enjoyed the first title (nor did I fret about how "Castlevania" it was). What say you to a weirdo like me?
Punished_Snake
Member
I don't agree. The negatives of the game in most reviews are: Bad stealth segments and some bland environments. Other than that the game is good, gamespot's review is the fairest and most accurate in my opinion. The battle system is solid. It's deeper and more enjoyable than God of War's battle system, the platforming is the typical platforming we have been used to see these days. Visually the game looks great (no frame rate drop and no screen tearing on xbox360) with some breathtaking Gothic environments. Once you get over the bad stealth segments (4-5 segments, each one takes maximum 5 minutes), the game delivers a solid experience.
Point, though it probably helps (most) of those are more distinct from other games at least.
Eh, not a great time regardless, I'll look into it later.
BUNTING1243
Banned
It's that Vampire conspiracy, man.
Ugh, those 4s and 5s =O
Welp looks like I'm loosing my IGA avatar bet.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=99634874&postcount=334
Welp looks like I'm loosing my IGA avatar bet.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=99634874&postcount=334
I will enjoy the game regardless..
Holy shit
spyhunterzero
Member
Ugh, those 4s and 5s =O
Welp looks like I'm loosing my IGA avatar bet.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=99634874&postcount=334
I will enjoy the game regardless..
lol
Well, even I myself didn't think this game would score lower than the first LoS
another average score
videogamer - 6
http://www.videogamer.com/reviews/lords_of_shadow_2_review.html
It's a pity this guy had to review it,the only games he likes are football and fps games.
videogamer - 6
http://www.videogamer.com/reviews/lords_of_shadow_2_review.html
It's a pity this guy had to review it,the only games he likes are football and fps games.
I was afraid that this would happen. LoS was such a great game, regardless of the terrible framerate but it did so many things right. This sounds like the DMC scenario, with LoS2 = DMC2 bad. Too bad, I really wanted to know how the story of Gabriel ends but not for 60 bucks. Maybe on a stem sale or PS+, but games rated that bad wont come to PS+ though...
Chance Hale
Member
Well, hopefully my Anatomy exam grade will be higher than the metacritic score 
Still looking forward to the game but it does seem like some weird design decisions really hold back what could have(and should have) been a masterpiece. First game was such a wonderful base to build on. Not like it is getting completely wrecked anyway, some good scores here and there. Not that such things have a bearing on a game's quality anyway.
Still looking forward to the game but it does seem like some weird design decisions really hold back what could have(and should have) been a masterpiece. First game was such a wonderful base to build on. Not like it is getting completely wrecked anyway, some good scores here and there. Not that such things have a bearing on a game's quality anyway.
Hm, gameblog.fr 4/5, there is still hope!
http://www.gameblog.fr/tests/1850-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-360-ps3-pc#.UwxjRubBr7E
http://www.gameblog.fr/tests/1850-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-360-ps3-pc#.UwxjRubBr7E
SteveWinwood
Member
They release whenever the publisher wants them to. Silly people could have just confused their am and pms.
Another positive review below... curious how big the spread is on this one. But I suppose it's that time of the generation.
Gamereactor UK 8/10
Gamereactor UK 8/10
Bloodworth
Member
OK, seeing some of the ridiculous claims of hours on the Agreus stealth section, I'm just going to leave this here in case anyone decides they need it:
It's one of the few things not telegraphed to you, but how long are you going to beat your head against the wall without trying new things?
Mist Form
It's one of the few things not telegraphed to you, but how long are you going to beat your head against the wall without trying new things?
Holy fuck, really? 4+ hours on stealth parts that on average, are 5-10 minutes?
Our review and many videos are up. Disappointing game, sadly.
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_we_reviewed_lords_of_shadow_2-15057_en.html
(Full review is on the French side)
Yeah it's one of the few times I've seen Driftwood who did the review really angry about a section in a game. Complete fail.
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_we_reviewed_lords_of_shadow_2-15057_en.html
(Full review is on the French side)
Yeah it's one of the few times I've seen Driftwood who did the review really angry about a section in a game. Complete fail.
lol looks like he's not goot at playing
I can't imagine it being too bad, especially if you are a veteran of older Castlevania games. Lords of Shadow has never even been in the same tier as the old games in that regard, outside of the DLC final boss of the first game, but that's by shitty design.
Bloodworth
Member
Maybe I'm alone in this, but despite my frustration in sorting out, I actually enjoyed it. Where every other stealth moment just has those idiot guards standing there waiting for you to figure out some simplistic puzzle because your weapon buttons are disabled, the Agreus section actually feels like the risk has some legitimacy and gives you a sense of feeling hunted.
It probably shouldn't have been followed up with a regular boss fight with him though, since it just begs the question of why you couldn't attack him before.
Auto-Reply
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I feel like i shouldn't have bite on to this game so quick just because the preorder price was in my buy-zone. I'm kinda afraid to start playing it now lol
To the people who've beaten the game, how hard are the Kleidos Challenges?
One of the trophies is Complete all of the Kleidos challenges at "Prince of Darkness" difficulty, as I'm reading it, I'm thinking beating the game normally and then doing all the challenges and collectibles on a Prince of Darkness NG+ is the best route to go?
One of the trophies is Complete all of the Kleidos challenges at "Prince of Darkness" difficulty, as I'm reading it, I'm thinking beating the game normally and then doing all the challenges and collectibles on a Prince of Darkness NG+ is the best route to go?
Bloodworth
Member
I only did the first half. I think most of them are challenging, but fair. There is one that I just couldn't get though where you're supposed to have a larger enemy kill the smaller ones. Nothing I did to bait him would result in a kill. Must be some trick that I'm missing, but I tried a lot of different things.
5 isn't average, it's mediocre. I think the average score of a video game on Metacritic is about 7.7/10. But I do agree with you, a 5/10 could very well be a playable game.
Awesome, I won't focus on them too hard. Leave 'em til my second playthrough.
Game's downloaded and nearly installed. I'll be back with impressions in a few hours. Still hyped. Don't let negativity/Agreus get you down.
Sanctuary
Member
IGNorant said:
Now I can't take the rest of the review seriously.
IGNorant said:
Eh, I'm still going to reserve judgement until after playing it (would be a fool to do otherwise), but what I'm reading with many of the reviews that complain about the stealth sections seem like the same complaints that I had with the puzzles sections of the first game. They don't fit the game and they kill the pacing.
Does anyone else find this to be somewhat contradictive?
IGNorant said:
vs
IGNorant said:
So the game is full of uninteresting, yet beautiful areas that are interesting to explore? That doesn't compute in my mind.