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Hell yes. Wild Hunt is probably the best game ever made.
Why can't other companies take note of CDPR? No bullshit DRM, no MXT nonsense, games sell millions
Not easier. Faster.It's easier to design a system to leech off your customers' disposable income than it is to spend years and years building a game of such high quality that it sells an equivalent amount on its own merits.
That would be Naughty Dog, aka, Naughty Gods, mind you.
You misspelled Nintendo
They certainly have the best value DLC ever imo. I believe them.
It's always like this lol even before the drama
Don't be shy, call them out. I'm sure the whole class would appreciate your in-depth critique of these ...... -_- comments.
We're all waiting.
for kids until 12 years old, no doubt its nintendo
Palabragrís;253041212 said:I love those guys. They are not perfect, there are horror stories from some people who worked at CPR, but it's the only developer who treat their customers respectfully.
Dont be shy, call them out. Im sure the whole class would appreciate your in-depth critique of these ...... -_- comments.
Were all waiting.
Slight update:
This is the video they're referring to in the message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpk32gnn-MY
for kids until 12 years old, no doubt its nintendo
Why can't other companies take note of CDPR? No bullshit DRM, no MXT nonsense, games sell millions
CDPR is one of the reasons why we don't need to buy EA pice of crap games! Can't wait for cyberpunk 2077!!!
As long as it's done right I really don't have too much against "Games as a service". I understand the desire for companies to keep making money from games, especially if they have online aspects to it where they need to upkeep servers.
Pay to win is scummy and different. It kills the balance and thus kills the game. There has to be a middle ground where people wont throw their shit but also the companies making the games are happy.
Is this game ever coming out though?
I hope we get an actual game trailer soon.
On Twitter, they're always advertising positions to work on 2077. Seems a bit odd to be doing so much of it when the game's been in production for years now. Is this a common thing in game development? Makes me think that we won't be seeing gameplay trailers any time soon.
That "vote with your wallet" moment...
I get you, and that's coming from someone who does really like CDPR and TW series. Sometimes lately it feels to me that their emphasis on the good-guy reputation is almost a bit manipulative. As long as I get good quality for good prices, I'm glad, but I'm also skeptical regarding how long it'll last. The more a company grows, the harder it is to stay the same.I don't have the unconditional love that a lot of people have for CDPR (which is just my view and nothing to do with them - they are obviously a top dev).
The Witcher games have never grabbed me as much as they have their army of fans and they really haven't impressed me with their workplace practices of enforcing heavy crunch to finish projects.
So, when I read them making high and mighty moralistic statements like this, I do go a bit 'mmmmm'.
I know that view is going to upset people because the love for W3 is off the scale, but hey. I've never been one to join in for the sake of it.
I don't have the unconditional love that a lot of people have for CDPR (which is just my view and nothing to do with them - they are obviously a top dev).
The Witcher games have never grabbed me as much as they have their army of fans and they really haven't impressed me with their workplace practices of enforcing heavy crunch to finish projects.
So, when I read them making high and mighty moralistic statements like this, I do go a bit 'mmmmm'.
I know that view is going to upset people because the love for W3 is off the scale, but hey. I've never been one to join in for the sake of it.
I dont think most people who love CDPR do so unconditionally at all, but rather do so precisely because of a combination of an objectively stellar track-record as game devs and as prosumer advocates. They've consistently been on the right side of just about every consumer gaming issue as far back as I can remember. And one gets the sense it's because that's how they really think, not because it's a PR stunt. No dev/publisher is perfect...but "work crunch" is a far cry from greed based RNG lootbox bullshit designed to exploit the same addictive pleasure center of the brain as gambling...no matter the cost to the game vision, design or longevity.
It's OK if their games don't appeal to you. But CDPR make GAMES. Not slot machines dressed up like games. This is why people like myself love them. They've demonstrated over the years they deserve that admiration. And with the industry going off the rails in search of new ways to fleece customers rather than produce good games, devs like CDPR are worth celebrating even if they aren't perfect.
Well, as someone who works in the games industry and has worked crunch in the past, I see two sides of the same coin. Not sure how you can say they've been on the right side of consumer gaming issues when they've been called out for horrendous enforcement of crunch - or is that not a consumer issue? It's fine if you don't think it is, but then you're also saying child sweat shops aren't a consumer issue. I guess that's just a POV thing.
For me, it's just as important for a studio or publisher to give as much respect to its consumers as it is their employees. That goes beyond gaming IMO. I don't like to hear that Starbucks pays their barristers shit wages. I don't like to hear police officers being forced to work hard for no more money. I don't like to see shelf stackers at Waitrose being taken advantage of and I don't like to hear of game dev's being forced to work hard crunch because it's an issue very close to my heart. it's not acceptable IMO. At best, it shows a complete incompetence at management level. At worst, it shows bosses simply taking advantage of their workforce for their own greedy and ego driven needs.
I'm happy for CDPR to come out and say 'we don't like Loot boxes and we promise never to put them in our games'. That's great. Put your flag in the sand about a particular subject. But don't talk about greed when you've shown your greedy side by working your employees hard to earn money and boost your standing in the industry. For me, loot boxes and crunch are both things driven by greed.
Fair enough. No point arguing tbh because I pretty much agree with everything you've said - I'd just be arguing small nuanced differences.
The one thing I will say is that I have on occasion stayed away from companies with poor ethical practices - when and where I can. (Which I would have litttle argument against were you to accuse me of hypocracy).
Some examples:
I don't buy Nestle products as a direct result of their water policies in Africa.
I stopped shopping at Sports Direct after watching a TV documentary about how badly they treat their staff.
I still haven't played No Mans Sky because I really hated Sean Murray's attitude to crunch. (Despite it being £10 in sales really wanting to play it).
And I think CDPR games will be added to that list.
The problem is that you're 100% right in that, I don't really know if the maker of the trainers I now wear also have bad practices.
I guess I believe in doing small things when and where I can. None of those products above have missed my money. I'm a small person in a vast universe and I don't have the power to change it for others - I can only change it for myself in whatever small ways I can.
Thing is, I believe in redemption and if CDPR came out and said they were wrong to enforce crunch and they will change their policy to stop it? I'd be happy with that. Same with any of those companies above.
Fair enough. I can't really disagree with any of that (and Nestle can get fucked...we should actually talk more about that for real). If you're in the states, Happy Turkey Day. Either way, tip of the hat to ya.