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CNET's Reisinger: Sega should release a new console.
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Prime crotch
Banned
Sega should make a console based on their arcade boards and then have a line-up of perfect arcade ports, digital distribution for the older games. And put up some rarer Saturn and DC games up there as well like Panzer Dragoon Saga.
Open Source
Banned
Fail at hardware -> fail at software -> ? -> succeed at hardware!
BlazeHedgehog
Member
My theory is Sega's been so "meh" because they don't have to make games to drive hardware sales anymore. Previously, they had to make software in order to sell their hardware, but now, they don't need to actually sell anybody's hardware - they're in bed with everyone, so all they really need to do is sell enough software to keep the company afloat. In addition, the arcades, once Sega's biggest strength, have all but withered and died.
It's hard to tell if things would actually get better if Sega was bought out by say, Nintendo, so that all Sega games became Wii/DS exclusive, though.
It's hard to tell if things would actually get better if Sega was bought out by say, Nintendo, so that all Sega games became Wii/DS exclusive, though.
I would love to have a Sega Online console where I can buy all their back catalog Virtual Console style over the Internet, but also play new games as well.
Since that's never going to happen, I'd rather see them spend most of their effort on Wii, DS, PS3 and PSP because I really don't think the Microsoft crowd gives a crap about their games.
If they do create that online console, I suggest the name SEGA Online System. Also known as... S.O.S.
Since that's never going to happen, I'd rather see them spend most of their effort on Wii, DS, PS3 and PSP because I really don't think the Microsoft crowd gives a crap about their games.
If they do create that online console, I suggest the name SEGA Online System. Also known as... S.O.S.
Halcyon776
Neo Member
well with all this casual space nintendo has opened up to gaming; all Sega needs is a wii-sports knock-off a few sonic games and they're in; if they go after the casual market they have a good chance to be successful; especially if its cheap.
B-Rad Lascelle
Banned
I love how Sega refers to themselves as Wii's "top third-party publisher" and yet they had to borrow Nintendo's own mascot and name value to pull off that feat.Fewr said:
What they should really be doing is latching the Mario name onto all of their titles.
Instead of Sega Superstars Tennis, we'd have Mario & Sonic Play Tennis.
Instead of Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz, we'd have Mario Monkey Madness.
Instead of Ghost Squad, we'd have Mario's Bikini Babe Blastathon.
Instead of Sonic and the Secret Rings, we'd have Mario, Sonic and the Shitty Friends.
stuminus3
Member
I think Sega are doing just fine riding on the coat-tails of Nintendo's success.
I think it's great that they're doing so well on Wii/DS, when most other third parties are struggling to compete with Nintendo themselves. The fact that they've got eggs in other baskets, including some investment in some awesome Western (or Western-centric) talent, is pretty nice too.
Wow, that still feels weird to say. Still got too much of the old school in me. :O
I think it's great that they're doing so well on Wii/DS, when most other third parties are struggling to compete with Nintendo themselves. The fact that they've got eggs in other baskets, including some investment in some awesome Western (or Western-centric) talent, is pretty nice too.
Wow, that still feels weird to say. Still got too much of the old school in me. :O
Upcoming SEGA consumer games...
-Aliens: Colonial Marines (360/PC/PS3) Gearbox Software
-Alpha Protocol (360/PC/PS3) Obsidian Entertainment
-Bayonetta (360/PS3) Platinum Games
-Beijing 2008: The Official Video Game of the Olympic Games (360/PC/PS3) Eurocom Entertainment
-Bleach: The 3rd Phantom (DS) tba
-Culdcept DS (DS) Omiya Soft/Jamsworks
-Empire: Total War (PC) The Creative Assembly
-English of the Dead (DS)
-Fushigi no Dungeon: Furai no Shiren 3: Karakuri Yashiki no Nemuri Hime (Wii) Chunsoft
-Golden Axe: Beast Rider (360/PS3) Secret Level
-Happy Tree Friends False Alarm (PC/XBLA) Mondo Media
-Imabikisou: Kaimei Hen (Wii) Chunsoft
-Infinite Line (DS) Nudemaker/Platinum Games
-Initial D: Extreme Stage (PS3)
-Madworld (Wii) Platinum Games
-Phantasy Star Portable (PSP) Alfa System
-Pro Yakyuu Team o Tsukurou! (DS)
-Samba de Amigo (Wii) Gearbox Software
-SanGokuShi Taisen Ten (DS)
-Sega Ages 2500 Series: Fantasy Zone II DX (PS2) tba
-Sega Splash! Golf (PS2)
-Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (DS) Bioware
-Sonic Unleashed (360/PS3)
-Sonic Unleashed (PS2/Wii) DIMPS
-Space Siege (PC) Gas Powered Games
-The Incredible Hulk (360/PC/PS2/PS3/Wii) Edge of Reality
-The Incredible Hulk (DS) Amaze Entertainment
-World Destruction (DS) Image Epoch
...Sega proper seems to be working on just DS and arcade stuff for the most part.
-Aliens: Colonial Marines (360/PC/PS3) Gearbox Software
-Alpha Protocol (360/PC/PS3) Obsidian Entertainment
-Bayonetta (360/PS3) Platinum Games
-Beijing 2008: The Official Video Game of the Olympic Games (360/PC/PS3) Eurocom Entertainment
-Bleach: The 3rd Phantom (DS) tba
-Culdcept DS (DS) Omiya Soft/Jamsworks
-Empire: Total War (PC) The Creative Assembly
-English of the Dead (DS)
-Fushigi no Dungeon: Furai no Shiren 3: Karakuri Yashiki no Nemuri Hime (Wii) Chunsoft
-Golden Axe: Beast Rider (360/PS3) Secret Level
-Happy Tree Friends False Alarm (PC/XBLA) Mondo Media
-Imabikisou: Kaimei Hen (Wii) Chunsoft
-Infinite Line (DS) Nudemaker/Platinum Games
-Initial D: Extreme Stage (PS3)
-Madworld (Wii) Platinum Games
-Phantasy Star Portable (PSP) Alfa System
-Pro Yakyuu Team o Tsukurou! (DS)
-Samba de Amigo (Wii) Gearbox Software
-SanGokuShi Taisen Ten (DS)
-Sega Ages 2500 Series: Fantasy Zone II DX (PS2) tba
-Sega Splash! Golf (PS2)
-Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (DS) Bioware
-Sonic Unleashed (360/PS3)
-Sonic Unleashed (PS2/Wii) DIMPS
-Space Siege (PC) Gas Powered Games
-The Incredible Hulk (360/PC/PS2/PS3/Wii) Edge of Reality
-The Incredible Hulk (DS) Amaze Entertainment
-World Destruction (DS) Image Epoch
...Sega proper seems to be working on just DS and arcade stuff for the most part.
Iced_Eagle
Member
I so want to believe!
I had so many fun memories having non-gamers play Sega Bass Fishing with the fishing rod (mind you it had an accelerometer so you had to actually do the motions of casting and pulling it left and right)...
Once they learned how to fish, and watching people freak out when the rod started vibrating once they caught a fish it was a blast. My mom screamed and dropped the controller because she didn't expect that it would vibrate :lol
I had so many fun memories having non-gamers play Sega Bass Fishing with the fishing rod (mind you it had an accelerometer so you had to actually do the motions of casting and pulling it left and right)...
Once they learned how to fish, and watching people freak out when the rod started vibrating once they caught a fish it was a blast. My mom screamed and dropped the controller because she didn't expect that it would vibrate :lol
Sega would be much better off getting the developers together again to make me my online Jet Set Radio world, where i can join online skate gangs and get Gum naked.
Edit: However, if they did release another console, it would make my heart glad. Though it probably wouldn't be viable. It would still make me heart glad. Another Dreamcast, updated and with the games and sales it would deserve, would be wonderful.
Edit: However, if they did release another console, it would make my heart glad. Though it probably wouldn't be viable. It would still make me heart glad. Another Dreamcast, updated and with the games and sales it would deserve, would be wonderful.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Didn't this guy declare the Saturn to be the Worst. Console. Evar?
Even Mangod is wondering WTF is going on...
Just give me another Daytona USA game already... :kittonwyindifferent.jpg:
RBH said:
Even Mangod is wondering WTF is going on...
Just give me another Daytona USA game already... :kittonwyindifferent.jpg:
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
twinturbo2 said:
By George he did!
Man this dude is something else. :lol
MrPing1000
Member
Sega Europe should be put in control of the rest of Sega.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Somebody whip out the Epic Facepalm, CNET deserves it for hiring this whacko in the first place.PepsimanVsJoe said:
speculawyer
Member
Yeah, that is the problem with the industry today . . . there are not enough consoles. :lol
This article is idiocy, Sega are making more cash now than they ever have been during their years in the wilderness.
What really needs to happen is the replacement of the Sega/Sammy management at Sega of Japan who have all but ruined most of the console output of their Japanese studios. All that's left from Japan really is the remainder of Amusement Vision Nagoshi has under his control, and the arcade studios. Sonic Team, and the Sonic brand in general, have become a joke in the industry.
A good investor would get rid of the lunatics who have been in control of the company since the end of the Dreamcast and reward divisions like Sega Europe who have produced successful titles and made good publishing deals with Western development teams.
What really needs to happen is the replacement of the Sega/Sammy management at Sega of Japan who have all but ruined most of the console output of their Japanese studios. All that's left from Japan really is the remainder of Amusement Vision Nagoshi has under his control, and the arcade studios. Sonic Team, and the Sonic brand in general, have become a joke in the industry.
A good investor would get rid of the lunatics who have been in control of the company since the end of the Dreamcast and reward divisions like Sega Europe who have produced successful titles and made good publishing deals with Western development teams.
norinrad21
Banned
what for? :lol :lol :lol
Darth Tigris
Member
Sega had a ton of great IP's and millions of fans of said IP's. But after a great first wave of 3rd party releases, they really hurt themselves with bad decision after bad decision. They let a number of their IP's either languish in obscurity or weakened them with incredibly average-to-poor updates. THEN they lost a number of their talented developers and producers or minimized their effectiveness.
So what would help them now? They may be beyond repair. But if they committed, and I mean COMMITTED, to high profile updates of their most beloved IP's with a commitment to 3 to 4 of them being released a year, they could slowly build the company back up to possibly Capcom levels. But the games will have to good. REAL good. Its not about how many your release, its about how great they are. Follow the Nintendo strategy in that regard.
I was a firm believer in Sega going way back to Congo Bongo. Though I didn't own a SMS, I did own all of their other home consoles (except 32X, but that doesn't really count) and really miss the innovative swagger they used to have. But I am now of the opinion that those memories are all that I will have, because I truly don't see them doing what I outlined above. Not one bit.
So what would help them now? They may be beyond repair. But if they committed, and I mean COMMITTED, to high profile updates of their most beloved IP's with a commitment to 3 to 4 of them being released a year, they could slowly build the company back up to possibly Capcom levels. But the games will have to good. REAL good. Its not about how many your release, its about how great they are. Follow the Nintendo strategy in that regard.
I was a firm believer in Sega going way back to Congo Bongo. Though I didn't own a SMS, I did own all of their other home consoles (except 32X, but that doesn't really count) and really miss the innovative swagger they used to have. But I am now of the opinion that those memories are all that I will have, because I truly don't see them doing what I outlined above. Not one bit.
SEGA is to big to stay afloat with a couple of titles. It all went to hell when they gave Yuji Naka a Ferrari and made him all pimp and shit. Now he's gone, Yu Suzuki ran for the hills and Nagoshi is the only one at SEGA who has a clue how to make games. SEGA can't survive with 3/4 titles a year. They are already losing money and I don't see them cutting back costs any time soon. They don't have many dev teams left and projects and teams that show great promise(SEGA RALLY!!) are let go/shut down because they don't make enough money. The game was great for SEGA standards and they nailed the arcade feeling. SEGA failed with marketing though.Darth Tigris said:
As a publisher SEGA is doing great, Madworld and other Platinum Games ... games the Viking game and many other SEGA "published" titles are actually good. I guess they could make alot more money if the company wasn't a disaster. The Sammy merger never made any sense and I think they've just been digging their grave deeper and deeper. I really like SEGA and in each of their games there's still a "spark" left of the SEGA of old. On the other hand there's the SEGA/Sammy company who's bleeding money and making bad decisions. Someone should step up and buy everything or the board of directors should be replaced by people who know Videogames.
SEGA should do what Nintendo did some time ago. Change their internal structure and development teams be more efficient since they're rushing everything out of the door anyway. When I look at those Yakuza(?) games from Nagoshi I think that those could do well with proper localization. It would take a couple of months, but SEGA could do a more western version of those games. I've never seen a company who raped their mascot like SEGA did. Sonic is SEGA and they need to branch out with other titles or make a great Sonic game to put SEGA back on the map. Not all is lost though, Sega Rally, Sonic Rush/Adventure, Ghost Squad, Virtua Fighter 5 etc. some people at SEGA are still capable of making great games.
I always welcome a new console, but could the current SEGA build a reliable console? Isn't one RROD enough? If their console is as buggy as their games I'll pass. It would be one hell of a move if they did release a console they would never stand a chance against the competition without any money(hats) to throw around.
drakesfortune
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That guy is smoking some serious crack if he thinks that his idea is plausible. Jeesh, Sega was a miserable failure in the hardware business, and trying to get in now when it costs SOOO much more to market and develop a console is just insane. Not to mention the competition is much more fierce than before. Wow that guy is nuts.
Sega developing a new console is a great idea. Better yet, maybe they could buy the rights for the CD-I and the CD-32 and make it a multimedia machine? Possibly a machine with modules, so that you could turn it into a stairwell by buying all addons.
I mean, it's not as if developing a new console is expensive anyway. And the opposition hardly throws away Segas entire market value at adspace each month.
I mean, it's not as if developing a new console is expensive anyway. And the opposition hardly throws away Segas entire market value at adspace each month.