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COMICS!!! |OT| July 2017 | Princess, I've Seen the Way You Look At Me.
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I bought it at a regular American comic store. Then they didn't bag my sejic wayward cover and I left it behind. Now I don't have it. Physical comics were a mistake.
Like I said, I didn't finish the run, but is it established that Hawkeye was incorrect? 'Cus Banner tells him to kill him if he ever starts to change, and Hawkguy saw he was about to turn, so he killed him.
This image is hurting my head.
So the background appears to be an overhead shot of a city street and traffic implying that they are running up the side of a skyscraper, but at their feet it appears to be the ocean?
Bruce Banner was not the Hulk, he had no Gamma powers whatsoever.
I edited my post, but I don't know if you saw it, so I'm going to post it again.
"Oh actually, that reminds me. I have a question. Solicitations and Amazon say that it includes Flash Rebirth #1 and #1-13 (like it should, since it's supposed to include the first two trades). But IST says it only includes Flash Rebirth #1 and #1-12.
Can you check what it actually includes for me?"
Wait, what? Then why did he tell Hawkeye to kill him if he was going to turn to the Hulk if he wasn't able to? Or why would Hawkeye see his eyes turning green?
He made that arrow for hawkeye at some nebulous point in the past.
The real question is if Banner had the ability to make an arrow that would kill him, why didn't he make a bullet and blow his brains out. That's the first thing he'd do if he had the capability.
Oh right...
Bendis
Or you can say they were nervous of him Hulking out because they saw a vision.
But Bendis.
It was revealed that Steve manipulated Banner into doing gamma experiments on himself and Beast found the evidence when Carol and the others confronted him.
It's Rebirth #1 and 1-13
Big book.
Yeees. That must be like 100 pages more than Action Comics Deluxe.
Perfect OHC size.
He made that arrow for hawkeye at some nebulous point in the past.
The real question is if Banner had the ability to make an arrow that would kill him, why didn't he make a bullet and blow his brains out. That's the first thing he'd do if he had the capability.
Oh right...
Because he didn't want to die and the arrow was a final measure just in case it happened. Hawkeye would be the only one to nail the shot...
Blaming Carol for Bendis fucking shit up. 😠
Like I said, my issues with the early event is just the poor writing. Take Civil War the movie for example, you can totally see how Cap and Tony are both right and neither really come out looking good at the end. Early Civil War II, again I didn't actually finish the event, it's written like Carol is fucking shit up but she's really not, especially when Tony blames her for Warmachine getting killed, that was total bullshit.
Like I said, my issues with the early event is just the poor writing. Take Civil War the movie for example, you can totally see how Cap and Tony are both right and neither really come out looking good at the end. Early Civil War II, again I didn't actually finish the event, it's written like Carol is fucking shit up but she's really not, especially when Tony blames her for Warmachine getting killed, that was total bullshit.
Problem is it was not in the main book which would have helped matters...but no. Also She Hulk being Bendis sacrificial lamb and the supposed battles...LOL WHAT BATTLE.
Lol, was out for an anime movie night at a place that I haven't been to before, and as me and a friend was walking around, we found a comic shop.XD Got to see a whole bunch of Bombshell and Cover Girls figures displayed along with that Kotobukiya Thanos.
Even through I generally moved to digital for comics, it was nice to cruise around the comics stands.
Even through I generally moved to digital for comics, it was nice to cruise around the comics stands.
The fact that he was experimenting on himself was in the main book.
How many Funkopops were there?
Not too many heh. Was mostly on one shelf that it had to itself.
So the Rogers thing was isolated to his own book right?
It wasn't in the main book, but was in Steve's book and The Oath to setup Secret Empire.
He made that arrow for hawkeye at some nebulous point in the past.
The real question is if Banner had the ability to make an arrow that would kill him, why didn't he make a bullet and blow his brains out. That's the first thing he'd do if he had the capability.
Oh right...
No, its because its not real life, its a fictional story in a story driven media, where a lot of things are illogical and just happen for plot convinience.
BKatastrophe
Member
The point is that at the end, they were no different. Ultimately nothing changed.
-Tigorr is brought up in a warlike and violent culture before being adopted and bred as a political assassin. He doesn't know what to do with real power or how to lead, since he never has. He was viewed as a complete outcast based on a complex upbringing. Nothing was ever going to work out.
-Kalista was always power hungry and kill happy. This entire thing was just for her to claim power. They make that very clear that she's doing all of this strictly to consolidate her own power. She's willing to kill and manipulate, even though she claims she doesn't want to, to get what she wants. Kyle was worn down by this entire war. He had his beliefs challenged to the extreme. He's not really working for the good guys, but they have to be the good guys, because they're going up against supremely evil guys. Right? That's a huge facet of it. Not only that, but the entire religious side of it. Kyle empathizes with a group that can be so devout in their religion that it dictates their beliefs and gives them hope. Kyle then, after all that mind-numbing war, has a moment of clarity, thinking that he might be able to bring himself above all of it. They can prove that they aren't just power hungry killers. Then Kalista performs the execution, claiming she won. Again, it was all a game to her. It was all about winning. For Kyle it was about being a hero, something that didn't pan out.
-Primus was a coward. He lead nonviolent protests thinking they were the better option, and when given power he didn't know what to do. He'd never had power until the war, when he was given a gun and told to shoot people. By the end of the war it's the only way he knows how to deal with resistance. You give a guy who has never had power a whole ton of power. That can't end well, right?
Yes. He's the only good part of Higgins' Nightwing run.
I've never been more intrigued by her.
Ultimate Hulk, though.
I'm going to repost what I said a looooong time ago about Carol, though it was only up until issue #5 of CW2, so some of it isn't relevant any more (Ulysses being the bad guy the whole time), but I feel much of it holds water and why I don't think CW2 was that bad.
Tony brought that shit on himself. Literally neither of them are blameless. The final fight was Carol reacting to Tony's blatant overreaction and misreading of the situation. After the big fight that wrecked the Triskelion and Carol's attempted arrest of Miles, Miles then bails and Carol spends damn near an entire issue questioning the entire damn thing. She legitimately questions her position in all this. Miles and Steve both go to see what happens and if they fight each other and Carol shows up, but doesn't bring anyone with her (if I recall correctly). Just herself, so she sees if this really pans out. Tony shows up in a Carolbuster armor and she reacts, accidentally putting him in a coma.
The Hulk thing was partially her fault, but in the end she ended up being right.
He was doing gamma experiments on himself, which Beast discovered and revealed to everyone, and his eyes flashed green, which is why Hawkeye shot, as he was asked to do by Bruce.
LordOfLore
Banned
The fact SE pretty much made both the main visions from CWII false really makes that event pointless. "Shit, Hulk will kill everyone!" Nope,
. "Miles will kill Captain Hydra in Washington" Nope,
.
he comes back alive and destroys a few robots that looks like the heroes that died in the vision
Black Widow gets her neck pretty much cut off and then Miles is stopped from killing Cap by a hollow speech from Nadia about how killing is wrong and will just make you into him and then they're both captured
Aizo
Banned
Thanks for your thoughts, BK. What do you think Rayner would do next?
His superior tells him the Corps will be invading the Vega system, and they need to take a planet for stellarium. The superior then asks Rayner whose side he'll be on. He looks up, giving a clear vantage of the scar on his neck. It could be symbolism for betrayal, so perhaps he'd side back with the omega men. Neither side is just in the original conflict or whatever would happen next.
His superior tells him the Corps will be invading the Vega system, and they need to take a planet for stellarium. The superior then asks Rayner whose side he'll be on. He looks up, giving a clear vantage of the scar on his neck. It could be symbolism for betrayal, so perhaps he'd side back with the omega men. Neither side is just in the original conflict or whatever would happen next.
BKatastrophe
Member
That's the point of CW2 though. The visions were never concrete. They were never true, just something that could happen. It's also the problem: that the event was basically set up.
What I got is that Kyle isn't really on anyone's side. He's on his. There is no right or wrong side, just the side you pick, and that fighting for anyone's beliefs other than your own is completely pointless. Hence the abandonment of the religious symbology after the final battle.
Durrzerker
Banned
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
On SE, which I haven't read since issue 3 or so (I was told to read this by a friend who just loves trolling me):
They did the my boy
so wrong...
The hell. Honestly all I cared about in this event.
Oh and another thing:
Fuck you Marvel for going and doing this
Too bad I can't delete purchases from the Comixology app.
On the other hand, Saga #45 came out. Hearing great things about it. I'm not sure if I want to go physical or digital. I love collecting this one in Paperback though...
They did the my boy
The Punisher
What the fuck was the point in using him then?? I would have applauded the balls on Marvel if they made him a facist bootlicker but no, he's helping Cap because 'Oh hey he'll make everything better!'
The hell. Honestly all I cared about in this event.
Oh and another thing:
Fuck you Marvel for going and doing this
Redeem Cap bullshit, just retire him for a few years or make him evil. You already assassinated his character anyway.
Too bad I can't delete purchases from the Comixology app.
On the other hand, Saga #45 came out. Hearing great things about it. I'm not sure if I want to go physical or digital. I love collecting this one in Paperback though...
LordOfLore
Banned
Theory going around that Mr. Oz isn't
or someone else but actually The Superman.
Jor-El, Ozymandias, alternate Lex
Punisher
exmachina64
Banned
That could be interesting.
I'm sure Johns originally wrote him as Jor-El because that reading makes too much sense, but as to who he is now?
Fuck it, I'll add "time-travelling old John Constantine" to the table, it's just as likely
LordOfLore
Banned
Just read Superwoman 1-3 and Batman 1-5 yesterday and while they were certainly good enough I'm surprised by the logical inconsistencies in their narrative.
While my issue with Superwoman is just that the size of the crisis doesn't seem to mesh with a hero that apparently starts the 4th issue chilling at home (?), the I am Gotham arc of Batman seems undercooked. So I should give importance enough for two enormous add to the casts that their fate 5 issues in is really fucked up ? I mean it's no big deal at face value but one of the two character seems promised to play a major part in the book narrative. A character that never in 5 issues could even be half-fledged ? It seems really forced.
Sorry mr writer but you didn't sell me on your character and its apparent destiny is ridiculously ambitious.
Maybe I will warm up to the character and it will make more sense as times goes by. Lol at the burgeoning love story btw, it was fucking quick.
While my issue with Superwoman is just that the size of the crisis doesn't seem to mesh with a hero that apparently starts the 4th issue chilling at home (?), the I am Gotham arc of Batman seems undercooked. So I should give importance enough for two enormous add to the casts that their fate 5 issues in is really fucked up ? I mean it's no big deal at face value but one of the two character seems promised to play a major part in the book narrative. A character that never in 5 issues could even be half-fledged ? It seems really forced.
Sorry mr writer but you didn't sell me on your character and its apparent destiny is ridiculously ambitious.
Maybe I will warm up to the character and it will make more sense as times goes by. Lol at the burgeoning love story btw, it was fucking quick.
LordOfLore
Banned
Freezasaurus
Member
Oh, good. Can you answer me a question? On that Thanos statue, did they fuck up the colors of the infinity gems? Because Entertainment Earth keeps making that statue deal of the day for like $160, but some of the pics I've seen online make it seem like they got the gem colors wrong.
The
Reign of the Superman Trade
More or less confirmed then.
He made that arrow for hawkeye at some nebulous point in the past.
The real question is if Banner had the ability to make an arrow that would kill him, why didn't he make a bullet and blow his brains out. That's the first thing he'd do if he had the capability.
Oh right...
if Banner tries to shoot himself, Hulk will pop out and block the bullet because despite what he says, Banner doesn't actually want to die. Hawkeye presumably could react faster than Hulk's conscious mind and kill Banner before Hulk saw him coming.
Fucking what.
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fake edit: oops dp
tkscz
Member
That's what
Tony was getting at in CW II
Edit: Is there something going on at Marvel that women are not allowed to have long hair? I'm starting to notice a pattern.
$100 but it's gonna be the last Joelle statue released late next year
Jean Greys art is lovely
Haloid1177
Banned
Sacrilege.
BKatastrophe
Member
Jean Grey is actually quite good. Cable and Iceman are okay. Gen X is pure trash through and through.
It was a special arrowhead designed to kill the hulk, not hawkeye (a normal human) reacting faster then the speed of thought lol.