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[TranceKuja]

Sooo in the

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fly pit

, is it just the

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armor set

there or is there more? Had a feeling I combed through it, found nothing more and just headed back upstairs, only to find it leads to

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a shortcut to the cathedral

.

Not sure where to go now.

 

[Timeaisis]

So impressions? I really loved DS3, but I don't know how justified I feel for such short content.

I might just wait for the other DLC to come out and do them all at once.

 

[Swimmer9800]

I don't remember old hunter taking me more than 7 hours to beat, I don't see why all the conplaints.

 

[Strings]

THAT MOTHERFUCKING WELL.

You all know the one. The bastards didn't even lay out any pity treasure

 

[Tiefooz]

Has anybody who's been playing since the update noticed any meaningful difference in the way poise feels?

 

[Adam_Vania]

I don't remember old hunter taking me more than 7 hours to beat, I don't see why all the conplaints.

just from playing the starting area and knowing how many bonfires and bosses are in it, it seems about the same size as the Artorias DLC but with more new enemies. i saw half a dozen new enemy types in that first area alone.

 

[TsunamiOfSwagger]

Sooo in the

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fly pit

, is it just the

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armor set

there or is there more? Had a feeling I combed through it, found nothing more and just headed back upstairs, only to find it leads to

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a shortcut to the cathedral

.

Not sure where to go now.

There is a

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hidden wall leading to a

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invading dark spirit and some spells.

You have activated the

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chain in the fly pit that leads to the

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end boss?

 

[Aurongel]

Has anybody who's been playing since the update noticed any meaningful difference in the way poise feels?

No real changes to poise were made, don't believe that hype.

just from playing the starting area and knowing how many bonfires and bosses are in it, it seems about the same size as the Artorias DLC but with more new enemies. i saw half a dozen new enemy types in that first area alone.

Artorias probably had at least 1.5-2 subsections more than this DLC has but the enemies in this are definitely more interesting and fresh.

I think this DLC falls short for most people when it comes to bosses and the lack of clever shortcuts.

 

[TheBlackMarvel]

Anyone else feel like the

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girl

in the

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attic

after you fight

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Sir Vilhelm

is

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Ariamis

?

 

[Pejo]

Holy shit that (new enemy spoilers)

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dude with the rapiers and throwing knives

wrecks my shit pretty handily. Especially the

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stab and behind the back knife throw combo

. It just takes off so much damage and there's very little room to heal since it closes gaps so quickly.

I'm personally loving the DLC. I haven't beaten it yet, but I'm just enjoying doing a blind playthrough and exploring, which are my 2 biggest draws to the souls series anyways. I love the layout of the new zone, and those

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witch trees

scared the shit out of me the first time they attacked.

 

[silva1991]

Jesus fuck.

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3 phases

are too fucking much.

Is this

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lady and her father considered

the first boss?

NG+3 man

 

[Dr. Benton Quest]

Anyone else feel like the

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girl

in the

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attic

after you fight

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Sir Vilhelm

is

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Ariamis

?

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No, I think she's come after. I feel like Ariamis came before Ariandel. Ariamis' painting had begun to rot, and so too has this one. You can see remnants of the previous painting in Ariandel's (Priscilla's Tower). The young girl is meant to inherit the power of painting worlds but Elfriede made Ariandel hold on and accept the rot instead.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Finished it, I must have got most if not all loot and it was a truly excellent experience,is short, but I feel it feels even shorter thanks to being that good.

New enemies are good and last boss is up there with one of the best one on the series. And overall the whole area has some top notch level design.

Also, so many lore questions.

So impressions? I really loved DS3, but I don't know how justified I feel for such short content.

I might just wait for the other DLC to come out and do them all at once.

Is short, (around DS2 DLC), but is really good, which makes it being so short a real shame, because what is there, is excellent and probably one of the most fined designed areas in a souls game.

 

[JudgmentJay]

Has anybody who's been playing since the update noticed any meaningful difference in the way poise feels?

Using the Astora Greatsword, there were a few times when I felt like I should have gotten staggered by an enemy but didn't. Anecdotal evidence, but I felt like I had more hyper armor when attacking.

 

[Spiritwalker]

This boss is wrecking my shit. Can't even get past phase 2.

 

[Derpot]

So I just finished the DLC (I think?). I did it on NG with a lvl 55 character.

Some thoughts:
- I love the area. There were awesome moments when I got surprised, scared, panicky (

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when I saw the wolf pack the first time holy shit

), I sure had fun haha;
- The main boss was really, really amazing but damn hard. Couldn't beat it alone, I summoned a NPC (who was useless lol) and a player (

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I screamed so hard when I saw there was a 3rd phase, what a big surprise

);
- The other boss was disappointing. Fight was too short and wasn't very hm "creative". Beat it alone on my third try;
- I have this feeling that something is missing, but maybe it's because of the lack of content. After I beat the bosses, I felt a bit like "huh that's it?".

Also, there is ONE THING that bothers me a lot:

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After beating Friede and Ariandel, the Painter returned to her painting and talked about Gael who apparently had to bring something to her. I thought that maybe it was some kind of quest and I tried to look for Gael but he disappeared from the Cleansing Chapel at the Cathedral of the Deep.

Can we find him somewhere or is this truly the end? That can't end just like that, come on...

 

[Levyne]

Question, did anyone find any purpose to the Corvian NPC in the village area or the NPC in the starting cave? Or the artist in the second floor of where you first meet Friede?

The Corvian ends up disappearing, but the other ones just keep repeating their lines.

 

[BossDarkseid]

Anyone else feel like the

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girl

in the

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attic

after you fight

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Sir Vilhelm

is

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Ariamis

?

Thats what I thought...which would make the remaining

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Daughters of the Witch of Izalith; Friede, Yuria and Ariamas. Especially the way she talks about having learnt from her Mother's mistake about trying to create a world with flame

or something to that effect.

 

[BossDarkseid]

Jesus fuck.

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3 phases

are too fucking much.

Is this

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lady and her father considered

the first boss?

NG+3 man

It is the only mandatory DLC boss and as far as we know at the moment there is one mandatory boss (although its more like the "content" of two) and one optional boss.

 

[TranceKuja]

There is a

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hidden wall leading to a

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invading dark spirit and some spells.

You have activated the

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chain in the fly pit that leads to the

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end boss?

Aha, I have not. Thanks!

 

[Oxnard Montalvo]

Did they not add trophies for the DLC? That seems lame if true.

 

[onionfrog]

How do I get to

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the chapel basement?

I've made it to the

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the snowy mountain pass bonfire and opened the tree bridge shortcut to the top of the church building

I can't seem to figure out where to go in the snowy mountain area. It all looks the same to me. I just ended up going around in circles last night.

 

[Nazo]

Fuck these

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giant crow dudes

with the

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rapiers

.

They're bullshit.

 

[BossDarkseid]

Fuck these

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giant crow dudes

with the

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rapiers

.

They're bullshit.

Have you gone into the chapel from the roof?

 

[Nazo]

Have you gone into the chapel from the roof?

Yup.

Still bullshit.

 

[BossDarkseid]

Yup.

Still bullshit.

Hah yeah. I just ran at that point.

 

[silva1991]

Just beat the boss

not Ludwig or Orphan hard, but still amazing.

where can I find the optional one?

It is the only mandatory DLC boss and as far as we know at the moment there is one mandatory boss (although its more like the "content" of two) and one optional boss.

I'm very impressed with this boss. I hope the optional is half as good.

 

[mellow]

Did they not add trophies for the DLC? That seems lame if true.

I don't think the DLC for Dark Souls games ever had trophies? only Bloodborne

main boss was really cool and obviously Bloodborne inspired, other boss was disappointing, not particularly creative and didn't feel like much of a boss, all in all the DLC was pretty good but I'm really hoping the second will deliver something on par with DS1's and BB's

 

[Nazo]

Hah yeah. I just ran at that point.

Yeah, I just rushed to get the items and peaced out.

that whole room is nonsense.

 

[Levyne]

I'm very impressed with this boss. I hope the optional is half as good.

It's not, unfortunately.

 

[J4g3r]

Butt bow upgrade.

 

[Gbraga]

- I have this feeling that something is missing, but maybe it's because of the lack of content. After I beat the bosses, I felt a bit like "huh that's it?".

Also, there is ONE THING that bothers me a lot:

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After beating Friede and Ariandel, the Painter returned to her painting and talked about Gael who apparently had to bring something to her. I thought that maybe it was some kind of quest and I tried to look for Gael but he disappeared from the Cleansing Chapel at the Cathedral of the Deep.

Can we find him somewhere or is this truly the end? That can't end just like that, come on...

Miyazaki said this, in an interview to IGN JP:

There are a couple of different aspects in Dark Souls 3 DLC that we are trying to achieve, but one of them is a continuation of story between the 2 DLCs. This is something new that we are taking on.

I wonder how they'll make it work without locking content from people who only wish to buy the second DLC, but we'll see. They do add dialogue that many people will never listen to with the DLCs, so I guess it wouldn't hurt to add a few lines to Ashes of Ariandel when the second one comes out.

 

[valouris]

Guys, I have the Season Pass on Steam, but I can't seem to access the DLC

I am on NG+, and just yesterday I reached the

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Cleansing Chapel

bonfire to be ready. My game is online, it is 1.08, 1.21, and it says ASHES OF ARIANDEL on the top left when I am on the starting screen. What is going on??

I already tried restarting the game, warping to Firelink and back, restarting Steam. Both Ahses of Ariandel and the Season Pass are "checked" in the game's Steam page.

 

[mellow]

Miyazaki said this, in an interview to IGN JP:



I wonder how they'll make it work without locking content from people who only wish to buy the second DLC, but we'll see. They do add dialogue that many people will never listen to with the DLCs, so I guess it wouldn't hurt to add a few lines to Ashes of Ariandel when the second one comes out.

those quotes from miyazaki sound good to me, considering how there was some new little story/lore bites in this DLC but felt like it was lacking something..right now I'd guess that the second DLC will be where people have speculated one of them would all along -

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Londor and will show why Friede left the Church/Kaathe stuff maybe

 

[Gbraga]

Guys, I have the Season Pass on Steam, but I can't seem to access the DLC

I am on NG+, and just yesterday I reached the

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Cleansing Chapel

bonfire to be ready. My game is online, it is 1.08, 1.21, and it says ASHES OF ARIANDEL on the top left when I am on the starting screen. What is going on??

I already tried restarting the game, warping to Firelink and back, restarting Steam. Both Ahses of Ariandel and the Season Pass are "checked" in the game's Steam page.

Maybe you need an item that most people have by the time they try to access the DLC and didn't think about it? You needed the Peculiar Doll to enter the Painted World in Dark Souls, maybe the Small Doll is needed? Try defeating the Deacons and then come back.

those quotes from miyazaki sound good to me, considering how there was some new little story/lore bites in this DLC but felt like it was lacking something..right now I'd guess that the second DLC will be where people have speculated one of them would all along -

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Londor and will show why Friede left the Church/Kaathe stuff maybe

Yep, very possible.

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It would be nice to visit the ruins of Millwood as an optional area, maybe somewhat similar to the Chasm of the Abyss, but still with its own identity, and having the Abyss Dragon as an optional boss.

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

Just beat the boss

not Ludwig or Orphan hard, but still amazing.

where can I find the optional one?



I'm very impressed with this boss. I hope the optional is half as good.

Yea as i said in review thread it's just harder to learn than the other bosses The skill cap for the fight is super high though, like you can skim by without working out the mechanics, but you are missing huge windows for punishment.

Optional one is trash though.

And yea we've been driving ourselves crazy trying to get an ending for the dlc, hopefully will find something now everyone is playing

 

[Gai Murakumo]

I will not be able to play the DLC for a couple of days since I am really busy, but I cannot wait to jump back in.

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

For dlc 2 I want bloody palace mode , you gave the pvp players something , it's our turn now.

 

[Head of Vengarl]

So impressions? I really loved DS3, but I don't know how justified I feel for such short content.

I might just wait for the other DLC to come out and do them all at once.

My thoughts exactly. DS3 is one of my favorite games ever, but I'm too cheap frugal to justify spending $15 on only a couple hours of content.

 

[silva1991]

Great DLC, but the second big DLC better have more than 2 bosses.

I mean lets face it what makes most of us replay a souls DLCs? it's usually because of the awesome and challenging bosses there and not because we want to explore again.

Bosses are huge deal From :/

Yea as i said in review thread it's just harder to learn than the other bosses The skill cap for the fight is super high though, like you can skim by without working out the mechanics, but you are missing huge windows for punishment.

Optional one is trash though.

And yea we've been driving ourselves crazy trying to get an ending for the dlc, hopefully will find something now everyone is playing

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I have always wanted a fight against both Artorias and Sif at the same time and this is what I got? a random NPC? the hell From. I don't mind random character, but it should have been special like Artorias, Maria, Fume Knight etc

-__-

Anyways great DLC with high quality content, but the lack of bosses really hurt it especially only one of them is good.

 

[Nose Master]

Am I over leveled? I'm on NG+ and most things are dying pretty quick @ 96. Luck sword is still dumb, though.

 

[Red Liquorice]

This DLC is not small. It might be a relatively short DLC, but the area itself is huge and feels like it goes through a lot of changes as you progess. Even though it's all the same snowy environment, the initally open area with wolves, hollows and the trees felt like a distant memory by the time I'd got to the

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great hollow

-ish part. There's TONS of verticality, which is always a good thing in Souls.

The town area is another well laid out settlement type area, it really reminded me of the area before Ludwig in BB, with the rivers of blood. It's definately a short area with only a couple of troublesome enemies, but urgh what a troublesome enemy that one is!

I've yet to fight a boss but I feel like I've already explored a huge area. It's funny how an initial review or two can shape the prevailing view about something. From those first opinions I was expecting something far smaller than I what I've already seen, and again I've yet to fight a boss.


Q: Would you rather have a palette swap or gank squad-type boss so the DLC had an extra boss encounter, or would you rather they not do that kind of thing? (I say the latter).

 

[Levyne]

This DLC is not small. It might be a relatively short DLC, but the area itself is huge and feels like it goes through a lot of changes as you progess. Even though it's all the same snowy environment, the initally open area with wolves, hollows and the trees felt like a distant memory by the time I'd got to the

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great hollow

-ish part. There's TONS of verticality, which is always a good thing in Souls.

The town area is another well laid out settlement type area, it really reminded me of the area before Ludwig in BB, with the rivers of blood. It's definately a short area with only a couple of troublesome enemies, but urgh what a troublesome enemy that one is!

I've yet to fight a boss but I feel like I've already explored a huge area. It's funny how an initial review or two can shape the prevailing view about something. From those first opinions I was expecting something far smaller than I what I've already seen, and again I've yet to fight a boss.


Q: Would you rather have a palette swap or gank squad-type boss so the DLC had an extra boss encounter, or would you rather they not do that kind of thing? (I say the latter).

You'll probably fight the two bosses back to back and then I wonder if your opinion changes at all. Like for instance, I was kinda expecting:

Reasonably Large Area ->Boss -> good size optional area -> Optional boss

Instead I got.

Reasonably Large Area ->Boss -> Optional Boss right after.

It ends abruptly and I think makes it feel small at the end.

 

[rubes7844]

FUCKING FINALLY, PRAISE THE SUN. FINALLY BEAT THE FINAL BOSS!!
now what?

 

[myco666]

So umm... I am lost. I have no idea where to go. Just beat

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Champion

and have found

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Earth Seeker

also.

 

[Ferr986]

Q: Would you rather have a palette swap or gank squad-type boss so the DLC had an extra boss encounter, or would you rather they not do that kind of thing? (I say the latter).

I agree with you with the DLC not being as small as some people say, but I don't get this thinking. Even if it was a not very good addition, it was still more content to play. I'll rather have that than have nothing for sure.

Also, these small areas gave us one of the best DS2 bosses (Alonne).

 

[rubes7844]

So umm... I am lost. I have no idea where to go. Just beat

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Champion

and have found

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Earth Seeker

also.

Go back to the bridge and go down the ladder

 

[rubes7844]

Took a total of 4:30 to beat the all the bosses and included many deaths because I was lost. I enjoyed it a lot.

 

[NEO0MJ]

For some reason my PS4 hasn't downloaded an update for this. Any tips?

 

[myco666]

Go back to the bridge and go down the ladder

What ladder? The one next to the bridge? Already been there.