They have the same face. There is no argument, they are using the same exact face model.
So it's either...
A - She's a response to Marie Rosa haters
B - She's a clone with bigger boobs
C - Team Ninja got REALLY lazy
They have the same face. There is no argument, they are using the same exact face model.
So it's either...
A - She's a response to Marie Rosa haters
B - She's a clone with bigger boobs
C - Team Ninja got REALLY lazy
Couldn't find a good image that has a clear side-by-side comparison of the bodies, but their waists and hips don't appear to be different. Bust size is... creating an optical illusion of sorts.
But yeah, it's the same character with a bigger rack. Apparently "oppai loli" is more culturally acceptable in the West.
Bayman and Leon can finally express their love via QTEs.Dong physics is complicated, that's why the western version is getting delayed. That and hiding the makeout minigame in the options so Fox News doesn't lose it's shit.
I like to think that it's a big troll. They release the exact same character with bigger breasts and everyone falls over themselves to praise the sexiness of the design. It's amusing. Characters that are "clearly 15" are OK to be sexualized as long as they have giant tits.
Fuck yeah that would be hilarious. See my previous posts Re: Dong Physics.Will adding a few naked men in DOA Extreme 3 appease the feminist then?
This means the DOA girls will now be pigeons, right?
Ayane was 16 in the previous DOAX and 14 in Ninja Gaiden. I too think it's a massive troll.I like to think that it's a big troll. They release the exact same character with bigger breasts and everyone falls over themselves to praise the sexiness of the design. It's amusing. Characters that are "clearly 15" are OK to be sexualized as long as they have giant tits.
All this arguement over Honoka and Marie rose misses the key problem- they're both terrible characters and appear to be too young.
There's a stark contrast here - back in doa2 came out , Kasumi and Ayane were intended to be 15/16 years old but at the time I was the same age so it didn't feel kind of off putting. Plus , they came across as bad ass ninja girls so I didn't mind even as I got a bit older.
Even with DOA5's initial release they've aged up all the characters - every girl is at least 18 now and actually looks at least that old... until they made Marie Rose. Marie Rose just looks like a 12 year old girl , if it were the case that the rest of the cast didn't have such obvious differences in the way they're all modeled (the adult women in the cast all have curves) than it might not be so obvious but the fact is , outside of Marie Rose they all look like adults. A concentrated effort exists with her design, she's mean to look like a young teen girl to appeal to that particular moe mindset present in japanese otaku.
I think it's gross because a large part of what makes DOA the thing it is today is that they are selling the game as a fighting game and a wanking simulator. When the wanking simulator sexualizes someone that looks 12 , I'm going to be disgusted. Frankly I would have thought it was gross even way back in 1999 if this character existed in DOA2.
So what's the deal with Honoka ? she was a slapped together character built to go after the same audience. She's clearly also meant to be a teenager - the clutzy giant breasted anime girl stereotype though instead of a lolicon. It's still kind of gross pandering. I can also admit there's a certain line here that DOA only crosses because it's current artstyle is leaning to far towards the realistic side of things. The senran kagura games are filled with characters really no better than honoka but that games artstyle is well, super cartoon-y looking anime , there's no mistaking those characters for humans. It feels cheesecake rather than straight up pornographic too.
So honestly, if DOAX3 ends up coming to western audiences and the adjustments are that these 2 characters are omitted from the game then thumbs up. Even better if they just omit them from the Japanese version too.
All this arguement over Honoka and Marie rose misses the key problem- they're both terrible characters and appear to be too young.
There's a stark contrast here - back in doa2 came out , Kasumi and Ayane were intended to be 15/16 years old but at the time I was the same age so it didn't feel kind of off putting. Plus , they came across as bad ass ninja girls so I didn't mind even as I got a bit older.
Even with DOA5's initial release they've aged up all the characters - every girl is at least 18 now and actually looks at least that old... until they made Marie Rose. Marie Rose just looks like a 12 year old girl , if it were the case that the rest of the cast didn't have such obvious differences in the way they're all modeled (the adult women in the cast all have curves) than it might not be so obvious but the fact is , outside of Marie Rose they all look like adults. A concentrated effort exists with her design, she's mean to look like a young teen girl to appeal to that particular moe mindset present in japanese otaku.
I think it's gross because a large part of what makes DOA the thing it is today is that they are selling the game as a fighting game and a wanking simulator. When the wanking simulator sexualizes someone that looks 12 , I'm going to be disgusted. Frankly I would have thought it was gross even way back in 1999 if this character existed in DOA2.
So what's the deal with Honoka ? she was a slapped together character built to go after the same audience. She's clearly also meant to be a teenager - the clutzy giant breasted anime girl stereotype though instead of a lolicon. It's still kind of gross pandering. I can also admit there's a certain line here that DOA only crosses because it's current artstyle is leaning to far towards the realistic side of things. The senran kagura games are filled with characters really no better than honoka but that games artstyle is well, super cartoon-y looking anime , there's no mistaking those characters for humans. It feels cheesecake rather than straight up pornographic too.
So honestly, if DOAX3 ends up coming to western audiences and the adjustments are that these 2 characters are omitted from the game then thumbs up. Even better if they just omit them from the Japanese version too.
All this arguement over Honoka and Marie rose misses the key problem- they're both terrible characters and appear to be too young.
There's a stark contrast here - back in doa2 came out , Kasumi and Ayane were intended to be 15/16 years old but at the time I was the same age so it didn't feel kind of off putting. Plus , they came across as bad ass ninja girls so I didn't mind even as I got a bit older.
Even with DOA5's initial release they've aged up all the characters - every girl is at least 18 now and actually looks at least that old... until they made Marie Rose. Marie Rose just looks like a 12 year old girl , if it were the case that the rest of the cast didn't have such obvious differences in the way they're all modeled (the adult women in the cast all have curves) than it might not be so obvious but the fact is , outside of Marie Rose they all look like adults. A concentrated effort exists with her design, she's mean to look like a young teen girl to appeal to that particular moe mindset present in japanese otaku.
I think it's gross because a large part of what makes DOA the thing it is today is that they are selling the game as a fighting game and a wanking simulator. When the wanking simulator sexualizes someone that looks 12 , I'm going to be disgusted. Frankly I would have thought it was gross even way back in 1999 if this character existed in DOA2.
So what's the deal with Honoka ? she was a slapped together character built to go after the same audience. She's clearly also meant to be a teenager - the clutzy giant breasted anime girl stereotype though instead of a lolicon. It's still kind of gross pandering. I can also admit there's a certain line here that DOA only crosses because it's current artstyle is leaning to far towards the realistic side of things. The senran kagura games are filled with characters really no better than honoka but that games artstyle is well, super cartoon-y looking anime , there's no mistaking those characters for humans. It feels cheesecake rather than straight up pornographic too.
So honestly, if DOAX3 ends up coming to western audiences and the adjustments are that these 2 characters are omitted from the game then thumbs up. Even better if they just omit them from the Japanese version too.
That thread was certainly something loli disagree with this sentiment.
if you can't make the disconnect with characters that appear young and is a fictional character that's fine. you don't HAVE to like them and you are justified in your feelings.
but calling for outright removal from all versions, even their home release where culture and intricate definitions of what is considered ok are based on geography, then you lose me.
just because you don't like it, doesn't mean others shouldn't and be denied. your sensitivities are your own.
as for the whole "young appearances are bad, if they look 12 they must be 12" thing, i REALLY don't wanna link the other thread with the young looking asian mcdonalds employee. an adult woman.
Basically yes. If the complaints are low then the west will be the same as the east. However, if the complaints are high due to SJWs, feminists, as silly boys who complain about breast and sizes but they are also the ones that look at japanese and western porn now and again anyway, then the west version will be adjusted in response to those complaints. Therefore, expect tons of pr for this game so the dev can gauge the responses early and expect a japan release first and west release after.So the short version is Asian import superior confirmed?
I think a lot of feminists would applaud seeing the dudes paraded around in thongs and speedos. Contrary to some schools of thought, you can still advocate for equality while enjoying some eye candy. When it's balanced, everyone wins.'Adjusted'?
Oh yeah...The feminist in the western wold probably will complain about it.
Will adding a few naked men in DOA Extreme 3 appease the feminist then?
That thread was certainly something lol
I think a lot of feminists would applaud seeing the dudes paraded around in thongs and speedos. Contrary to some schools of thought, you can still advocate for equality while enjoying some eye candy. When it's balanced, everyone wins.
Note: This is not directed at you specifically, just a general statement. Wanting to see equal treatment for everyone is a good thing, yeah?
I think a lot of feminists would applaud seeing the dudes paraded around in thongs and speedos. Contrary to some schools of thought, you can still advocate for equality while enjoying some eye candy. When it's balanced, everyone wins.
Note: This is not directed at you specifically, just a general statement. Wanting to see equal treatment for everyone is a good thing, yeah?
One thing though, i don't think any men will be up in arms about it.
Well, I don't totally agree with that. The portrayal of female characters in general needs a great deal of work still.equal treatment = more naked men and dongs in the game then.
i mean...we have wobbly boobs and women being objectified in the game. The only Equal treatment and 'balancing out' is to add dicks and objectify men too.
One thing though, i don't think any men will be up in arms about it.
That speaks to a much deeper issue of how the male and female body is portrayed in all artistic mediums. A man's body is rather a symbol of power or ridicule, while a woman's is one of overt sexuality or misplaced puritanical virtue.What I find interesting about the portray of male nudity in mainstream media is how it's usually used for comedic purposes. Like a big shot of man ass in a movie is generally there for laughs. And I mean, what's funnier than a mosiac'd dong flopping about in a music video or sitcom?
Even children's movies sometimes have male nudity for comedy. A man's butt gets laughs, and the kids go "Ew! Gross! Haha!" but a woman's butt is almost always supposed to be sexy and would probably result in the movie getting a PG-13 rating.
Couldn't find a good image that has a clear side-by-side comparison of the bodies, but their waists and hips don't appear to be different. Bust size is... creating an optical illusion of sorts.
But yeah, it's the same character with a bigger rack. Apparently "oppai loli" is more culturally acceptable in the West.
I insist extra breasts (and, yes, height) do make her look considerably older and, of course, acceptable. Big boobs are a sign of maturity. Flat chests by themselves are not.
I insist extra breasts (and, yes, height) do make her look considerably older and, of course, acceptable. Big boobs are a sign of maturity. Flat chests by themselves are not. Thus big breasts do help make a character look older.
Put them in a match together, they are the same height.
ROFL. I don't believe a thing they're saying. They are probably deciding how to make this into a profitable DLC cashcow. Just like DOA5.Adjust the fiction. The women are now all 3000 year old dragons.
Borderline Naked SnakeMore like this, Dead or Alive Xtreme. More like this.
The Australian government would probably consider owning the original version of this game tantamount to owning CP, what are you even talking about us not being prudePAL Land ain't no prudes. The US can keep their Puritan version.
I was under the impression Honoka was at least 2.5 cm (1 inch) taller than Marie but I'll have to take your word for it.It doesn't hurt to also mention the fact that modders have analyzed whatever they could from the PC version of DOA5, and determined outside of breast size and hairstyle, basically Honoka and Marie Rose are nearly identical models at a base.
Got this image from FSD, the image below is a promo from vanilla DOA5.
goodeverything ruined by the social justice westerners
All this arguement over Honoka and Marie rose misses the key problem- they're both terrible characters and appear to be too young.
There's a stark contrast here - back in doa2 came out , Kasumi and Ayane were intended to be 15/16 years old but at the time I was the same age so it didn't feel kind of off putting. Plus , they came across as bad ass ninja girls so I didn't mind even as I got a bit older.
Even with DOA5's initial release they've aged up all the characters - every girl is at least 18 now and actually looks at least that old... until they made Marie Rose. Marie Rose just looks like a 12 year old girl , if it were the case that the rest of the cast didn't have such obvious differences in the way they're all modeled (the adult women in the cast all have curves) than it might not be so obvious but the fact is , outside of Marie Rose they all look like adults. A concentrated effort exists with her design, she's mean to look like a young teen girl to appeal to that particular moe mindset present in japanese otaku.
I think it's gross because a large part of what makes DOA the thing it is today is that they are selling the game as a fighting game and a wanking simulator. When the wanking simulator sexualizes someone that looks 12 , I'm going to be disgusted. Frankly I would have thought it was gross even way back in 1999 if this character existed in DOA2.
So what's the deal with Honoka ? she was a slapped together character built to go after the same audience. She's clearly also meant to be a teenager - the clutzy giant breasted anime girl stereotype though instead of a lolicon. It's still kind of gross pandering. I can also admit there's a certain line here that DOA only crosses because it's current artstyle is leaning to far towards the realistic side of things. The senran kagura games are filled with characters really no better than honoka but that games artstyle is well, super cartoon-y looking anime , there's no mistaking those characters for humans. It feels cheesecake rather than straight up pornographic too.
So honestly, if DOAX3 ends up coming to western audiences and the adjustments are that these 2 characters are omitted from the game then thumbs up. Even better if they just omit them from the Japanese version too.
Adjust the fiction. The women are now all 3000 year old dragons.