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Dead Space 3 Game Informer Details [Use new thread]
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Dead Space 3: Army of Two!
I'm not sure if they mean Invisible War style (one ammo bar shared between every gun) or Mass Effect 2 style (one ammo pickup refills all of your guns up to a set amount).
same ammo pickup box for all the guns, yeah
Femmeworth
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Hopefully it only applies to dropped ammo.
Yep. See Deus Ex: Invisible War.
To me, this is a developer screwing over it's core fanbase to please another. It never works. See Dragon Age 2, Invisible War, etc.
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Speedymanic
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Pretty much. Think invisible war. Some weapons use more ammo than others, but all weapons use ammo from the same ammo pool. Run out of for one weapon, all wepons run out of ammo.
Fuck. :-/.
Backfoggen
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I mean it's probably the same kind of mechanic. Or maybe kind of like Alan Wake's American Nightmare ammo system.
I never played Invisible War so I didn't know about that kind of universal ammo
Why do people hate cover systems so much?
As games get better and more like the actions and decisions a human would make, wouldn't taking cover be something that should actually make sense and you would want to do?
Leaning and going prone as well.
What kind of genius runs around standing up the whole time not taking cover in a shoot out?
As games get better and more like the actions and decisions a human would make, wouldn't taking cover be something that should actually make sense and you would want to do?
Leaning and going prone as well.
What kind of genius runs around standing up the whole time not taking cover in a shoot out?
Regarding the universal ammo, I'm betting the decision for that was based on how the previous games worked.
In DS1 and 2, enemies and containers dropped ammo for the weapons you were using the most. This eventually made it so you just used one or two weapons to make sure you had plenty of ammo for that weapon. My guess is that they want players to use all the tools avalable without suffering the consequences of having ammo drops being divided over the amount of weapons in the game.
It makes sense, but to me it just seems like they took the easy way out instead of actually balancing the system they already had.
In DS1 and 2, enemies and containers dropped ammo for the weapons you were using the most. This eventually made it so you just used one or two weapons to make sure you had plenty of ammo for that weapon. My guess is that they want players to use all the tools avalable without suffering the consequences of having ammo drops being divided over the amount of weapons in the game.
It makes sense, but to me it just seems like they took the easy way out instead of actually balancing the system they already had.
I think the issue is more the inclusion of shoot outs in general.
And by effect removing the game further from survival horror.
In this particular case it's because Dead Space is a survival horror game. A cover system suggests lots of gun battles which doesn't fit into the survival horror theme.
Mechanized
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Now has universal ammo pickups
Cover system added
Unitologists pose a threat now,the screens look like they're shooting at isaac while hes taking cover
Ugh.
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Ugh.
Well there were 2 good games at least.
Cover system added
Unitologists pose a threat now,the screens look like they're shooting at isaac while hes taking cover
Ugh.
...
Ugh.
Well there were 2 good games at least.
black_vegeta
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Well, you also have to remember that these same folks also forget that competent cooperative modes have existed in hundreds of games before Resident Evil 5 created a relatively mediocre way of doing it.
I'm excited but the cover system has me worried. Hopefully all cover will be completely destructible otherwise you'll lose that sense of "Holy fuck I'm surrounded by necromorphs and this cover won't protect me"
I know that Visceral Games won't let this happen but I don't want Deadspace 3 to be Resident Evil 5.
I know that Visceral Games won't let this happen but I don't want Deadspace 3 to be Resident Evil 5.
Relaxed Muscle
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They most likely took out the free running. I mean seriously, who enjoyed that part in the first game?
Cover system? Ugh.
Unitologists sounds cool, the co-op part lame and the feeders sound awesome.
SafeinSound
Member
YES YES YES. Ok, my hype has been cranked up. I was a little weary about this one, but the fact that there is NO competitive multiplayer and they are focusing solely on the SP and CO-OP makes me very happy.
The only thing that worries me now is the cover system.
The only thing that worries me now is the cover system.
Speedymanic
Banned
Now third person, more gunplay, less platforming in favor of combat.
AgentChris
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Shootbang indeed. I want to believe in Visceral though.
What possible good thing could come out of universal ammo?
Lord_Byron28
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I like these details I especially am interested in the last one. The others are Meh or will wait and see on.
I'm not sure why everyone's so shocked about some things since IGN was proven correct with their rumors a while ago.
yes, I am.
Faith will become a dude
Heavy emphasis on gunplay with ironsights
Melee fighting is turned into QTE
Relaxed Muscle
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I hate grabbing ammo in DS games for weapons I'm not using or don't plan to use.
Rated-Rsuperstar
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You sir are being too reasonable for a forum that overreacts with doom and gloom to everything.
So either don't pick it up or sell it. It wasn't something that needed fixing.
Relaxed Muscle
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It sucks when your plasma cutter ammo is almost over and you get ammo you can't use. Yeah, it needed fixing and since they showed they couldn't bothered to add ammo drop only for weapons you hold seems like an upgrade.
Large areas to explore sounds good.
Some stuff sounds good, some stuff sounds bad.
Regardless of DS2 shying away from the horror and isolation aspect, and this game seemingly continuing that trend, it was still a pretty fun and atmospheric shooter and this will probably be too. So, good luck Visceral Games. Don't mess it up too much and I'll buy it.
Regardless of DS2 shying away from the horror and isolation aspect, and this game seemingly continuing that trend, it was still a pretty fun and atmospheric shooter and this will probably be too. So, good luck Visceral Games. Don't mess it up too much and I'll buy it.
Dave1988
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Way I see it is that ammo is going to be more scare than in previous titles as a trade off for it being universal. You can use every gun at your disposal but you have to be careful not to find yourself in a situation that you're out of ammo and there's none/little to be found. It would definitely add to the tension of fighting the Necromorphs.
This too.
That's exactly what happened in DS1 and DS2. Only difference is that you had to use every gun at your disposal. Now you just upgrade that plasma cutter and never look back.
Ohhh, more non-linear, that definitely seems to recognize part of why RE5's co-op was awful, not that RE4 was particularly non-linear but it had that "adventure" element that RE5 just straight up threw out.
And honestly stuff like throwing in a cover system bugs me more because of homogenizing gameplay design. I understand some things are simply damn useful to implant, but it seems to be getting especially sad how everyone's seemingly in lock step to copy one another for blockbuster games.
And honestly stuff like throwing in a cover system bugs me more because of homogenizing gameplay design. I understand some things are simply damn useful to implant, but it seems to be getting especially sad how everyone's seemingly in lock step to copy one another for blockbuster games.
That's when you start using your kinesis (at least in DS2). Actually, I spent most of that game just cutting off limps and then impaling Necros with them.
And can you farm money?
What would definitely kill the horror aspect is recharging health, or at least full blown recharging health. If necromorphs can beat me up badly but I can find a place to hide and get better then it's definitely got no chance at staying scary.
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