Complicated
Banned
Cool. Everyone will keep up the criticism in the meantime. I don't think anyone cares if it hurts the feelings of the Destiny defense force.
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Destiny 2 Beta |OT| Garry's Mod
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Cool. Everyone will keep up the criticism in the meantime. I don't think anyone cares if it hurts the feelings of the Destiny defense force.
paragonpro
Banned
When does this go live for us without a pre order?
In around 3 hours I believe.
There is a Destiny Defense Force?
Last I looked almost everyone who is a fan of the OG D1 has major issues with the beta.
In other words, it's not good.
That's not true, Yeah there's some here that does have major issues but there's just as many that enjoy what they have played. It needs some tuning though.
bobbyrawlins
Banned
Count me in the masses that, so far, thinks Destiny 2 stinks.
Every little thing that was good and different and refined about D1 has been mushed.
Every little thing that was good and different and refined about D1 has been mushed.
GlamFM
Banned
Nah. A fair share of us like the beta quite a bit.
Not even sure if you guys are even in the majority or if you´re just very, very loud.
Do I make you proud?
Don't you have some earth bounties to complete Glam?
Also I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain.
More or less.
I have about 1k hours in D1 and I don't hate D2 beta. My issues with it for most part can be fixed by tuning numbers behind the scenes. Stuff like 4v4 PvP, double primary and PvE + PvP balancing being one and same won't change this late to the game so those gripes will stay for at least Y1 of D2.
racketpunch
Member
Do I need to reactivate my PS Plus account to try the beta out?
Edit: NM. I just googled it. Should have done that first.
Edit: NM. I just googled it. Should have done that first.
my 2 cents:
pros:
- 4v4
- more emphasis on gunplay than supers
- better graphics
- like the teamwork aspect
cons:
- found story and strike to be meh. not repetitive like d1. in d1 i redid the strikes a million times. felt like a chore to do it once in d2
- something about the movement and gunplay i didnt like
- supers and nades took to long to charge
- guns felt weak (ttk too high). only 1 kill per clip is ridiculous
- hate that you cant lone wolf it as much
- screen feels too cluttered
- not a fan of gun sounds
- game missing that wow factor
- they ruined hunters
- hate the weapon loadouts (2 primaries + 1 heavy). for pvp and pve
need to see more before i make a decision on loot drops, if i like the new guardian upgrade system, weapon/armor mods...
pros:
- 4v4
- more emphasis on gunplay than supers
- better graphics
- like the teamwork aspect
cons:
- found story and strike to be meh. not repetitive like d1. in d1 i redid the strikes a million times. felt like a chore to do it once in d2
- something about the movement and gunplay i didnt like
- supers and nades took to long to charge
- guns felt weak (ttk too high). only 1 kill per clip is ridiculous
- hate that you cant lone wolf it as much
- screen feels too cluttered
- not a fan of gun sounds
- game missing that wow factor
- they ruined hunters
- hate the weapon loadouts (2 primaries + 1 heavy). for pvp and pve
need to see more before i make a decision on loot drops, if i like the new guardian upgrade system, weapon/armor mods...
I haven't had a chance to play since Wednesday. Is the infinite grenade glitch ubiquitous yet?
TheLionsDen
Member
The 4v4 on all PvP modes is going to have to change, they're going to have to put some high player count modes for us casual/less competitive gamers.
PVP is fine, obviously my comment went over some peoples head.
My Problem is that simple tuning will not fix the flaws that are apparent in D2. It's a design choice and many people do not like it. (Regarding PVE). I'm not closed minded that it might get better, doesn't mean that I can't complain about it though.
Also my time says hi to your 1k
HiredN00bs
Member
I'm loving it now. PvE is challenging. PvP feels good, much more manageable. There's definitely a period of discomfort where things feel off because of being so accustomed to D1, and people also have a tendency to be quick to judge and be hyperbolic in their criticism. That's not to say the beta is perfect, but I'm digging almost every change, and I notice more and more as I play.
There are lots of issues, but I still like it. Will place my preorder soon. The only thing I'm scared of that is that history will repeat itself, and there are signs that it will - if you ask me. The same two expansion packs, and I have a gut feeling that the story missions will be few. But I might be totally wrong.
All weapons in PVE need some serious love. If you go by their past buffs I don't trust that this tuning they have already done will be enough.
I will wait and see at least and hope and pray that it does.
My mention of hours wasn't intended as dig at you. Just remark that I put serious time into D1 and that I don't hate hate D2 beta even when I have issues with it.
I just preferred more casual 6v6 with a lot skill action with that sweating tryhard 4v4 on weekends model that D1 had for PvP. I don't personally like that Bungie is desperate for that eSports scene so they are ramming tryhard sweating into all forms of PvP.
I think they can make PvE and PvP feel quite a bit better by tuning baseline numbers for movement speeds, damage and so on. It won't fix fundamental design decisions like having 2 primaries for some weird ass reason and showing all spice (shotties, snipers, launchers, HMGs....) into same very ammo limited slot.
I think hunters are the best class currently because they can actually move. Warlocks and titans move far too slow for me. Also hand cannons 2-3 shot everything but shielded enemies so ttk isn't a problem to me. The rest of your cons I more or less agree with. Screen doesn't seem cluttered to me though.
Yappadappadu
Member
First time playing anything Destiny.
Played through the Strike mission with 2 friends while a 3rd one was watching via Shareplay. I wish that mode supported 4 players.
Story didn't do that much for me. Would be a good idea if they added a 2nd mission.
Need to fiddle around with controls as I'm not used to melee on R1.
Played through the Strike mission with 2 friends while a 3rd one was watching via Shareplay. I wish that mode supported 4 players.
Story didn't do that much for me. Would be a good idea if they added a 2nd mission.
Need to fiddle around with controls as I'm not used to melee on R1.
Getting the raid team back together
Do you know if the deleted hours are included in the total, or do you add them separately? Honestly curious if I'm 1200 or 1700 hours.
You add them separately.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
PVP is fine, obviously my comment went over some peoples head.
My Problem is that simple tuning will not fix the flaws that are apparent in D2. It's a design choice and many people do not like it. (Regarding PVE). I'm not closed minded that it might get better, doesn't mean that I can't complain about it though.
Also my time says hi to your 1k
2656 hrs? lol, that's cute.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I kind of want to play the beta this weekend. Is it still up? I may have to preorder...I wanted to go PC, but I may do PS4 again because it felt like such a good console shooter.
GlamFM
Banned
Starting later today the beta is open for everyone. Jump in, it´s great.
Cosmos is still going to fall asleep in raids.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Awesome. I'll download the beta when I get home for lunch!
I think the subclass trees for the hunters (the ones they gave us access to anyway) need work. But for the sake of this post I'm gonna give suggestions for the class ability, if they want to keep the dodge. Apply all of them or some of them.
1. It has to be a shadow dodge. Meaning invincible frames.
2. It has to be easier to reorient yourself. I feel like I get more confused when I dodge than my enemy. Maybe make it in first person.
3. If you dodge near allies, they get an agility buff.
4. This is a suggestion taken from Overwatch's uprising event. When you blinked near an AI robot, it would be "confused/stunned" for a second or so. I like this. Make it so if you dodge near enemies, they get "confused/stunned" Stop shooting, look around etc. It would make dodge an aggressive crowd control mechanic.
5. I like the reload your gun mechanic, kinda pointless if chain of woe is active though. Maybe give the guns increased handling or something for a short time as well
6. The recharge melee mechanic is also good... if the melee was worth a damn. Dodging should increase the melee damage as well.
1. It has to be a shadow dodge. Meaning invincible frames.
2. It has to be easier to reorient yourself. I feel like I get more confused when I dodge than my enemy. Maybe make it in first person.
3. If you dodge near allies, they get an agility buff.
4. This is a suggestion taken from Overwatch's uprising event. When you blinked near an AI robot, it would be "confused/stunned" for a second or so. I like this. Make it so if you dodge near enemies, they get "confused/stunned" Stop shooting, look around etc. It would make dodge an aggressive crowd control mechanic.
5. I like the reload your gun mechanic, kinda pointless if chain of woe is active though. Maybe give the guns increased handling or something for a short time as well
6. The recharge melee mechanic is also good... if the melee was worth a damn. Dodging should increase the melee damage as well.
Guys with some tweaks this PVP could be God tier.
Really hope they do some sort of punishment for quitting though, especially since 4v4 now losing one player is pretty much GG.
Also the other only problem is how noticeable how fun the match will be depending on your team. If your guys aren't teamshotting it can be terrible.
Really hope they do some sort of punishment for quitting though, especially since 4v4 now losing one player is pretty much GG.
Also the other only problem is how noticeable how fun the match will be depending on your team. If your guys aren't teamshotting it can be terrible.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
you can play it without PS+ but only the story mission. you need PS+ if you want to play the strike or crucible modes.
so you'll get about maybe 20 minutes out of it.
The auto pulse rifle and auto scout rifle both sound and behave like autorifles. That's not the case with Destiny 1 so I'm not sure what went wrong, but the audio design is definitely part of it. Weapons are not distinct enough.
This is a good point. A medallion system as used in IB should probably be in place at all times.
Cool, I just want to try the game out on PS4 to see if I should buy it on PC later.
josecitoxnyo
Member
Abusing of that infinite nade glitch is the most fun i've had with the beta, not even joking.
I even cross a team doing the same thing and couldn't stop laughing LMAO
I even cross a team doing the same thing and couldn't stop laughing LMAO
The auto scout reminds me of the Carbine, TBH.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
Fair enough. The mission should give you a good feel of it. I played a load of D1 so I'm comfortable with the controller and the layout but I would prefer to play it on PC. I'm just waiting for the PC beta to get an idea of how it performs on my PC. If I'm not happy with the quality of the PC version or how it runs on my PC then I'll just get it on PS4.