AustinFelix
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Multitasking?
Xbox One is for girls. Confirmed.
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Destructoid: Xbox One can run four apps at the same time in the background
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Are you 12? How did you get approved?
So your tablet/phone has a screen the same size as your TV screen?
Heh, I understand if some of you guys aren't interested in this but some of the complaints about this are really shortsighted and/or flawed.
jordan0386
Member
If your other devices do it, why wouldn't your console be able to as well?
Are you at a gaming disadvantage if your console can multi-task?
Actually a tablet screen fills roughly the same field of vision as a TV (often at a higher resolution). Here is a lecture on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5kZ4uIUC0
PetriP-TNT
Member
I really like W8 and WP8 so I think that Xbone will have great OS too. Only thing it needs is
more ads.
an adblocker
Southside Jim
Neo Member
Have to admit, the whole "center of the living room" is one of the biggest selling points on the X1 for me.
Wow, I'm a dinosaur, aren't I?
Wow, I'm a dinosaur, aren't I?
This applies to me too, my 7 month old boy can be a handful sometimes, handsfree control will be amazing for me.
Also really looking forward to a proper demo.
Nice of you to drop by again Albert
probably really 4. I imagine app-class programs are limited to a specific chunk of RAM to use. Which makes sense, app-level stuff like Netflix and so on don't need 8GB of RAM really
Wolfgang Jr
Banned
Hahahaha. Name ANYTHING that can't do that? My 9yr old Sony Ericsson phone can do that, it had a .. what? 200Mhz cpu? 128kb ram?
BruiserBear
Banned
Or I could just hit a couple buttons on the controller and be done with it faster.
Options! How do they work?
His criticism seems pretty coherent and valid. He wants the balance of the system's power shifted more towards gaming capability. How is that flawed?
And building UI for TV screens to ensure that text is legible from far away, etc. inherently means that you just don't get any better display density than you do on a tablet, for example. What would make better use of the TV's screen size is a game that could render at the panel's native resolution...
Caayn
Member
Because the few % of the total systems graphical power is enough to double the native resolution of KI.
Sloane_Ranger
Member
Whew! I was worried that I could only run one or two items at once. Because, you know - I would really love to be doing something else at the same time I am playing a game ...
It can matter if you want things to load and get ready for you while you do other things. Imagine if tabs in your browser only loaded when you were on them instead of in the BG. Now does it matter?
It's suspending the apps. They don't keep loading. They just temporarily get frozen while you switch to something else.
That's the point, and why it's kind of odd that it'll only allow four apps to do this.
Options are great, but 100$ great? I have yet to see a reason for kinect besides a decade old voice control functionality. Just my opinion.
Can Crusher
Banned
To me this just means the system is reserving a lot of resources for the OS.
His criticism (at least the one he stated) had nothing to do with that.
Apps, (in particular video apps) are more appealing to many when used on bigger screens. Hence why the tablet/phone comparison was silly.
Haha, wow. Okay. Obvious that some of you guys are too shortsighted to understand.
Might as well not buy any future game consoles either since they will all have these app features.
Audible Phonetics
Member
Why doesn't MS focus on these aspects of the xbox more during game shows?
man they should just scrap this Xbox One thing since Vita already does it.
Yeah, why give Facebook ad revenue for your userbase?
Yeah because that isn't what pissed off its main consumer base to begin with.
With Vita you can play and speak with Skype at same time, where is the suspend there?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SipQORP-fCo
Where did you get this information. This sounds false. Xbox One runs a stripped down version of the Hyper-V hypervisor. It's actually running two virtual machines, Xbox OS and Windows 8. With virtualization both VMs are running concurrently. There is no suspending. When you're playing a game and then switch to an app like Hulu, the game is still running.
MS has the four app limit as a walled-garden approach to avoid having people to mess around with things such as memory management. This thing will run Windows, but MS won't allow you to pull up task manager to kill an app to deal with performance. The best way to do this is to allow only a fixed number of apps to run at a time.
Fresh Face
Banned
Exactly. They know people are going to want to use Youtube and Facebook anyway, which is why they are doing this, but it's more money for them if they can get it on their service.
NTIETS13A_Superiority
Banned
Windows 8 sucks... Windows 7 sucks too nowdays. I miss Xp and its superior performance and controllability. Shame about seven. It started so well. I hope Sony and mikkisofta do not atificially limit number of small app running just for the sake of it.
That's a joke right? Windows 7 destroys XP and 8 even tops that in terms of performance.
I buy gaming consoles for gaming.
My 360 & PS3 are only turned on to play video games, when I'm done, they get turned off.
I can't be the only gamer here on this gaming forum upset that gaming machines are turning into catch-all devices.
I find the Kinect/voice stuff to be the most interesting part of this article.
There are people that buy a Wii/360/PS3 just to have a cheap Netflix device that does other things.
There are people that buy a Wii/360/PS3 just to have a cheap Netflix device that does other things.
Ok, that's an observation that doesn't necessarily have much bearing on this conversation. Can the 360? Can the PS3? Can the Wii or the Wii U? Can the PS4? Can you name a dedicated set-top gaming box that can?
Since this is new information, and a hands-on session that let press observe this running on basically the same boxes buyers would have in their hands by holiday this year, I don't know that your griping really contributes much here except that you found a crude way to say almost nothing.
Shaunboy97
Member
Comparing smart phone apps to Xbox One apps are a bit ridiculous!!
maximum360
Member
All in all, the One is a good mix of things. If they shaved $100 of the price it would be a great console despite having some inferior specs to the PS4. I think it will be a big hit with casuals with the Kinect integration and UI in addition to the other deals MS has made. Even reducing the price by $50 and giving you the option to bundle a game with the unit would work. MS is really blowing it in the price arena.
There are smartphone apps a lot better than the Windows 8 store equivalent.
Well, one of the more famous examples is the iPhone, which couldn't do it prior to iOS4. It could only play audio in the background from first-party apps.
Does the 360 allow you to play audio from a Netflix show while you use another app like Internet Explorer?
Really? The very first thing he says in the post you quoted is that he'd prefer to get KI at native 1080p. There's just two sentences - do you really think they're totally unrelated?
Yes, in particular video apps, which we've not had any trouble running on current gen consoles without the need to reserve significant system resources for them while gaming. Beyond media apps, I'd argue strongly to the contrary that many care about running other apps on their TVs. Yet we're talking about reserving more system resources for the sake of apps than the PS3 and 360 had to offer, combined (at least in terms of RAM).
Too shortsighted? Please. Do you hear anyone making an argument against apps of any kind? No. We're talking about more efficient and appropriate methods of supporting apps on devices intended primarily for gaming. Every device targeting TVs and every TV itself is sporting app features these days. Most of the "all-in-one" features that MS is trying to push with the XBO largely work on a USB stick-sized device now. Bank on parity within another year or two for these kind of inline media sticks for less than $100, while the new TVs will simply incorporate these features wholesale.
Quite the opposite of shortsighted - the problem for XBO is that "app features" aren't going to be a distinguishing factor for much longer, if you're really paying attention.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
This all sounds great, can't wait to mess around with it myself.
4 apps? I might be impressed if my phone wasn't already running 8 apps and had another dozen cached for immediate recall as well.
You should work for Microsoft. Their entire marketing strategy is to stick their fingers in their ears and chant loudly so that they can pretend the rest of the world does not exist.
You should work for Microsoft. Their entire marketing strategy is to stick their fingers in their ears and chant loudly so that they can pretend the rest of the world does not exist.