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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
- Thread starter shinobi602
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Of course they won't. Most aren't buying two consoles this holiday.....
But just knowing that they could have a better looking/running game for $100 less would be enough to piss anyone off.
SniperHunter
Banned
Yea you need msaa to get rid of jaggies.
But aliasing is visible and you comtinue to ignore my posts directed to you.
So what is you take on this ?
It's not on paper, sure. And don't get me wrong, I'm not for or against either side. But when people are playing this game in motion 8 to 12 feet from their TV, unless they decide to admire the view and count the stepping on the power lines from 2 feet away, they're not going to be able to sit there and judge visual acuity between the two resolutions--especially because they're both being upscaled.
Sitting here staring at still images of this game is one thing.
This is the only valid concern, you're absolutely right. Reasons like this are why I would personally choose the PS4 over the Xbone. 720p/900p are both negative marks in my book. Lower framerates are the worst by far, however.
Unfortunately, you're now banned, so I feel a little shitty for responding knowing you can't post back, but I shall do so anyway.
Firstly, those people, yes, that's great for them. There are lots of people who don't care about image quality, people who actively prefer black crush for example. That's fine, I didn't suggest otherwise.
Secondly, I don't really like the suggestion I'm not 'neutral', it's true that I'm buying a PS4, and have no plan to buy an XBO, but I feel my reasons are legitimate for my personal tastes.
Finally, I said I don't think the PS4 version looks notably different, aside from the image balance, which I think is actually much better on PS4.
eso76
Member
Which version looks better is, strangely, subjective to an extent., but technical difference is there. And it's more or less what i expected.
But i wouldn't jump to conclusions either way, i mentioned earlier that GTAIV, for example, was 640p no AA, worse lod draw in etc on PS3 vs 720p, 2X AA on x360.
Also, curious as to what PS4 version looks like if i set the console to output in 720p.
(currently on a 720p tv, that's why i keep asking
)
But i wouldn't jump to conclusions either way, i mentioned earlier that GTAIV, for example, was 640p no AA, worse lod draw in etc on PS3 vs 720p, 2X AA on x360.
Also, curious as to what PS4 version looks like if i set the console to output in 720p.
(currently on a 720p tv, that's why i keep asking
)The OP early states it; Digital Foundry messed with the capture settings.
They over contrasted and crushed the blacks in the Xbox One version while not calibrating the PS4 capture to do the same.
JackFrags footage looks a million times better, because he didn't mess with the capture settings.
Yeah so that confirms my fears. Total screw up. Bad devs decisions ruining PS4 objective advantage.
I hope it's not the same for other multiplatform titles.
The PS4 version looks also less sharp in the ign vid by the way, not only the DF one.
But again that proves what i was saying long time ago in tech comparing threads. Different teams, different choices of AA, different skills will always kinda randomize the graphic differences in the end. Even if this seems pretty clear that the PS4 is indeed way more powerfull. Now will that message reach the masses... Hope so.
https://twitter.com/repi/status/395138203075633152
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-next-gen-vs-pc-face-off-preview
Both versions are treated to post-processing anti-aliasing too, seemingly equivalent to the refined, high setting on PC.
Aliasing is a result of drawing a line across a limited (non-infinite) resolution. It will always exist. The higher the resolution the less the aliasing. Technically if ps4 did 4xAA and XBONE did 8xAA it would minimize the difference but it would still be there. If both do the same level of AA the difference will remain the same, both will just be improved by similar percentages.
Cornbread78
Member
OK so should the PS4 version look better that what is shown in those altered images? I'm trying to figure this all out, but the amount of fanboyism is making me sick..
Well of course, I wouldnt say it will make a big difference for the average joe end consumer, but considering this is an enthusiast forum we DO talk about the technical capabilities and from that point of view... its a landslide.
Pseudo judo
Member
It's not being ignored it's just mostly inconsequential. DF says frame rate difference is mostly 3-4 fps and both consoles mostly hover around 60 except when intense shit is going on and then PS4 holds its frame rate and recovers quicker then X1. Thing is...so what? It's not so painfully apparent that it's a game changer or something.
Link to the MP stuff?
Portugeezer
Member
Anyone who plays 900p on PC will tell you it's much better than 720p, but you won't see it so easily on videos.
Try reading a few pages and you might not have to ask.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
The Digital Foundry comparison is truly a mess. Not only did they botch their video captures, but then they go ahead and say nonsense like this:
There's no way you can tell me you have any sort of technical competency regarding image processing and image quality and then expect to be taken seriously when you say artificial sharpening makes an image "crisper looking".
These DF guys sound like amateurs.
There's no way you can tell me you have any sort of technical competency regarding image processing and image quality and then expect to be taken seriously when you say artificial sharpening makes an image "crisper looking".
These DF guys sound like amateurs.
iceatcs
Junior Member
That was really bad one.
Better one is
http://abload.de/img/i3uk6taw6tdxd8fonn.gif
But the gif comparison is not good starting.
Oh really. I guess average user wont notice framerate differences as well.
MikeJAMoran
Member
It's clipped to the same part of the screen and aspect ratio. Note that the UI is smaller on the PS4 version due to the higher res.
True that.
I guess you didn't read my post.
At $100 less, yeah it is a game changer, at least for the casuals who want the best bang for their buck.
Monty Mole
Member
https://twitter.com/repi/status/395138203075633152
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-next-gen-vs-pc-face-off-preview
Both versions are treated to post-processing anti-aliasing too, seemingly equivalent to the refined, high setting on PC.
So it looks like both versions will be further improved in their final form.
SneakyStephan
Banned
finally a video where the pc version doesn't use the same gimped FOV as the console one...
There's a large disparity between playing at those resolutions on PC and playing them on a console that has the being upscaled. The PC resolutions will look inherently worse because your display is going to stretch the image instead of being somewhat properly expanded.
Watch the videogamer footage. It's not just contrast and sharpness. They state there's a completely different lighting engine.
Kenshin001
Member
Amen
derExperte
Member
They recommend the PS4 version under certain circumstances and even then they say 'might look better than on a sub 1000 PC', not in general.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Read up, I already replied to you.
And I don't see why the aliasing is important to the discussion, I don't think anybody is arguing that the Xbone version is technically superior (PS4 has better FPS/AA/effects etc) but what is an issue for me is that PS4's AA solution/post-processing making the image too blurry, which negates things like it having the better resolution, because a lot of the detail is lost.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
Can some one link m to the ign multiplayer comparison?
not to mention what a dip might cost you on the battlefield.
That hypothetical is far from being accurate. Any $1300 PC with a well thought-out build will naturally dominate the consoles.
TheRealTalker
Banned
it is near the end of there main PS4/XO video
People that actually saw both versions in motion all say thats not the case and the PS4 looks better in every way.
BigDaddyFatSack
Banned
They won't care just like how PS3 fanboys didn't care about those minor differences this gen with COD and many other games. As long as they get to game with their buddies online without experiencing any outages like that of PSN, they're happy.
something fishy
Member
but I doubt the casuals are buying because of these details.
if a system has the games and features they want they will buy.
The PS4 version has the same textures as the PC.
Are you say that the Xbone version looks better than both the others?
both look good. the x1 holds the framerate during the majority of the game with bigger dips then ps4 with heavy theatrics. i'm actually more surprised that the ps4 version is only 900p and also has framerate drops. its much closer then i anticipated - chalk it up to console parity between multiplats i guess.