Seganomics
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Ask yourself this question,
Is the X1X version a significant upgrade over Pro?
If Yes, then no.
If no, then yes.
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DF: Shadow of War: Early Xbox One X vs PS4 Pro Graphics Comparison + Frame-Rate test
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Ask yourself this question,
Is the X1X version a significant upgrade over Pro?
If Yes, then no.
If no, then yes.
Insane Metal
Member
Man, that diff is actually bigger than the usual difference in PS4 x XBO titles in the beginning of the gen.
Probably not with the 4K textures. Unless the in-game counter is super wrong (haven't measured actual VRAM usage), it uses over 8GB of VRAM.
captainraincoat
Banned
I have been playing on a pc with high settings and also playing on my son's ps4 pro and you notice the difference in textures and lightning.....the ps4 pro feels really washed out in parts...the game is obviously not made to be a looker but it's really noticeable on areas without much in it.
Looking forward to the x version
Looking forward to the x version
This image right here, just this shot tells it all. There is a MASSIVE difference!!! I was honestly not expecting this big of a difference. From the cape detail, to the textures all around, to the lighting, the res, it seriously looks like different console generations! Does anyone k ow how to post these side by side, since Photobucket started charging for Image codes im having a difficult time figuring out where to get coding!
PS4 Pro
https://flic.kr/p/Yvrivo
Xbox One X
https://flic.kr/p/ZA9ugK
Ohhhhhh.......niceeee
InsaneTiger
Member
Space_nut is a BEAST! of this thread.
Alpha Phoenix
Member
I think this is the first direct comparison between the Pro and the X we've seen, right? That's a pretty substantial difference.
Mr Moose
Member
This image right here, just this shot tells it all. There is a MASSIVE difference!!! I was honestly not expecting this big of a difference. From the cape detail, to the textures all around, to the lighting, the res, it seriously looks like different console generations! Does anyone k ow how to post these side by side, since Photobucket started charging for Image codes im having a difficult time figuring out where to get coding!
PS4 Pro
https://flic.kr/p/Yvrivo
Xbox One X
https://flic.kr/p/ZA9ugK
Would be great if they were wearing the same clothes. Pro has an exclusive smoke stack, that's nice.
The extra RAM on the X is looking really nice.
This game its self looks a bit cacky.
What is with that missing smoke stack?
Mr Moose
Member
Pro has a house full of high Orcs, exclusive DLC.
Xbox One X is an older build I think, this probably would've been better waiting a few weeks for the One X coming out before doing the comparison.
Sadly, I cannot tell if this is sarcasm anymore.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Of course it is because the gap in processing power is roughly four times greater, not to mention significantly more RAM that's also faster.
Mr Moose
Member
TheChewyWaffles
Member
So just curious - how does the X compare to PC on ultra @ 1080p?
This is disappointing. There's already a handful of launch window titles missing the 2160p mark and the console hasn't even hit shelves yet. I didn't expect an upgrade to a 3 year old last gen title to not only miss 2160 on X1X, but have frame drops into the low 20s. Even base hardware isn't having framerate issues. Lets hope final code resolves this problem.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
... Shadow of War just came out a week ago.
Babaganoush
Banned
If you blink your eyes fast enough it will look close to it.
Thebonehead
Banned
It hits 4k nativeLol but keep trying
Its 3840x2160 when looking at the sky (sometimes) under specific circumstances. Tom said as much in the analysis.
Seganomics
Member
Space_nut 'unleashed'
They seem to put in a good amount of effort in the Pro version, so if they were able to add higher resolution textures, they would have.
Even if FP16 is used, the 1X version should still be a significant upgrade. It's not something that will close the gap.
nubbygamer
Neo Member
KillerMan91
Member
XBO X has 1.42x times the flops of PS4 Pro. PS4 has 1.4x times the flops of XBO. The difference is rather similar. Difference maker here is the expanded amount of RAM XBO X has compared to PS4 Pro. If it still had the same amount as PS4 Pro you would had probably seen only another increase on resolution compared to pro and not much else.
EtherMagic
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
That's a difference of 500 gflops vs 1.8 terflops. So while the percentage is about the same the difference in raw power is not.
Meaning the game engine tech. One of the main gripes in reviews is that it isn't a dramatic upgrade from Shadow of Mordor which obviously also came out on 360/PS3.
Seganomics
Member
It was a tongue in cheek reference to how FP16 may be referred to in forthcoming DF articles.
Have you seen shadow of mordor on last gen systems?
No graphical difference can beat the joy of playing with your friends. I've been in the reversed boat for a while, owning a Pro and Xbox One, all friends on Xbox. There's no way I'd ever buy a multiplayer game for the PS4.
Babaganoush
Banned
What's the difference in ram?
KillerMan91
Member
8Gb vs 12Gb when it comes to GDDR5. Sony added some extra DDR3 RAM to Pro though that will handle OS stuff so developers have extra 0.5 Gb of GDDR5 available to use with games compared to standard PS4 (5.5 Gb vs 5 Gb). No idea how much XBO X allows developers to use but of course way more compared to Pro.
But higher you go with flops the less the absolute difference matters. For example difference between 100 gflops and 600 gflops is way bigger than difference between 5 tflops and 5.6 tflops. I mean difference between XBO X and PS4 Pro in flops is bigger than difference between PS3 and PS4 and yet no one would say we have gen leap here.
In terms of pure GPU load, targeting 4k versus targeting 1080p, the difference is very similar. Its the increase in RAM and RAM bandwidth on the XBX that hold up the GPU more. bandwidth in particular is a major factor in modern GPU performance.
Insane Metal
Member
The gap in processing power between the Pro and the XOX is 4x? What?
wumster3000
Member
Yes and people kept trying to down play the difference in technology. This is a bigger difference than the PS4 over Xbox One. The hardware is worth every penny.
I guess that makes sense. Bkoodborne is hawt.
But there's something so comfortable with having Microsoft at the lead of the horsepower race. Feels like last gen again.
I hope next Sony console is better.
Colbert
Banned
If you disable dynamic Resolution in Resolution Mode the game is native 4K all time. What you mentioned is happening in Quality Mode with dynamic resolution enabled.
I mean, why wouldn't it be? Future release usually equals higher specs.
This image right here, just this shot tells it all. There is a MASSIVE difference!!! I was honestly not expecting this big of a difference. From the cape detail, to the textures all around, to the lighting, the res, it seriously looks like different console generations! Does anyone k ow how to post these side by side, since Photobucket started charging for Image codes im having a difficult time figuring out where to get coding!
PS4 Pro
https://flic.kr/p/Yvrivo
Xbox One X
https://flic.kr/p/ZA9ugK
Night and day difference. It's ridiculous.
Wii and Wii U make me nervous Sony won't be able to compete any longer, hardware wise
Yeah, surely X1X isn't that much of an upgrade?
What in the world makes you think that? Nintendo and Sony have vastly different hardware design philosophies.
If it was it wouldn't change the texture situation.
EtherMagic
Member
I would assume so, i mean all your sacrificing is resolution and HDR capability, but all textures and whatever else the devs made look better will still look better. MS already stated the One X will make games look better even on 1080p screen, enhancements are built in for you non 4K HDR folks.