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Diablo III |OT4| Antiques Roadshow: Sanctuary Edition
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CarbonatedFalcon
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They're fixing pretty much everything that was horrible. Good god. The game will now be enjoyable. Still a long way to go in truly making the game "great", but at least we're getting progress, even if it's a little late.
Still no mention of end-game sort of stuff or when PvP is coming. That needs to come soon as well.
Still no mention of end-game sort of stuff or when PvP is coming. That needs to come soon as well.
Flying Toaster
Member
leave it to the naysayers to claim that the introduction of PvP will introduce more horrid issues in the game.
I for one cannot wait for PvP.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
Sucks that the patch is so far away though :/
1.04 sounds great. will probably play again once it's live.
i'm glad they realized that diablo 3 isn't a mmo and removing the bullshit timers and making coop fun again. the weapon changes will be great too. should make it easier to try different builds that require different types of weapons.
and holy fuck, blizzard finally figured it out. not to nerf skills that are widely used, but to buff those that aren't, because they are broken. 7 years too late for wow though.
i'm glad they realized that diablo 3 isn't a mmo and removing the bullshit timers and making coop fun again. the weapon changes will be great too. should make it easier to try different builds that require different types of weapons.
and holy fuck, blizzard finally figured it out. not to nerf skills that are widely used, but to buff those that aren't, because they are broken. 7 years too late for wow though.
SRTtoZ
Member
That happened a long time ago. Some people have 250k DPS and laugh there way through the game. These changes will only make the game more fun to farm regardless of how hard you want it to be.
Blast Processing
Member
And they said it wasn't like D2.
Fenderputty
Banned
That would be awesome.
EDIT: I'm super excited to hear about the Legendary updates and skill now too. I like what I've heard so far so I have a little more faith that they'll do the right things for legendary and skills. Should make loot hunting more interesting and give incentive to play around with builds.
I've really wanted to start a WD class as I played Necro in the D2. Hopefully the buffs to certain WD skills will make the class more viable and give me a reason to level one.
There are still a ton of us out there that can't progress through certain parts on inferno. Not because I "suck at the game", but I just can't afford good gear. The difference between okay level 60 gear and great level 60 gear is HUGE. Sure this patch will make what is easy for some people even easier, but I think opening it up to more people is only a good thing.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Amazing how this obvious philosophy is invisible to some developers.
UnluckyKate
Member
because buffing everything is killing difficulty balances... but who cares. no one will complain about inferno being slightly less difficult and better loot being fairly more acessessible.
I'm waiting to see how buffed are the skills and the AH recieving 6 caracteristics search per item
IlludiumQ36
Member
To be fair, they already nerfed all the OP skills to the point where they're happy with how powerful the most used skills right now are so buffing underused skills to that level isn't really killing balance.
Of course they'll probably fuck up buffing stuff and create some new OP-as-fuck skill/rune combinations but that comes with the territory lol
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Only if they go overboard. If some skills are so weak that no one uses them, what's the point of them even existing at all?
UnluckyKate
Member
Sure. But I mean in general game design decision. especially when there is no pvp
Fenderputty
Banned
I hope they buff lashing tail kick because I
think I'm the only monk that uses it.
think I'm the only monk that uses it.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Hey guys, ive never played any of the Diablo games and im getting this one soon. What character do you recommend for a D3 newb?
I hope they buff lashing tail kick because I
think I'm the only monk that uses it.
No, my level 60 Monk is quite fond of it, as well....doesn't do a whole lot of damage, but good for clearing enemies away when I'm surrounded and can't get to the much-needed health globes.
Machine Messiah
Member
The barbarian, or "baba" as it is called by Blizzard's Asiatic customers, is pretty easy to play and is the strongest character in inferno at the moment. If you prefer ranged, Demon Hunter is very powerful and also relatively easy (though you have to know how to avoid damage).
Melville
Member
I think the barbarian is a very straightforward character.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Ya im more of a ranged attached kinda guy, i dont like being up close and getting too much damage.
And how do i avoid taking too much damage?
CarbonatedFalcon
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Oh, and in case anyone didn't know, with online profiles, DiabloProgress now finally works (at least somewhat).
My character: http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/carbonfalcon-1838/hero/2729808
Ranked decently high for not having even played in at least a month (not out of dislike for the game, but out of extreme addiction to Dota 2! Put in about the same amount of hours in that now that I did in D3.)
OP is a bit out of date now and I will be updating it soon, at the very least in time for OT5. It's taken a bit longer to get there than I would have thought though as the rate of posts has been pretty slow in the past few weeks.
My character: http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/carbonfalcon-1838/hero/2729808
Ranked decently high for not having even played in at least a month (not out of dislike for the game, but out of extreme addiction to Dota 2! Put in about the same amount of hours in that now that I did in D3.)
OP is a bit out of date now and I will be updating it soon, at the very least in time for OT5. It's taken a bit longer to get there than I would have thought though as the rate of posts has been pretty slow in the past few weeks.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Broadly speaking, I guess so. But in Diablo 3 there's a hard cap on the amount of skills you can equip at one time, so a larger pool of powerful skills doesn't necessarily make everything easier if you can still only equip 6 at once.
Blast Processing
Member
That's pretty cool.
IlludiumQ36
Member
Not at all, good sir!I hope they buff lashing tail kick because I
think I'm the only monk that uses it.
As an under-geared monk progressing through A-I, I can't live without it.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/IlludiumQ36-1420/hero/8889140
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
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Quit lying. No one in here hasn't already beaten inferno 68 times and made $12,000 off of the game selling farmed gear.
j/jNo, I'm with you, I'm still in Act 2 inferno. I had quit playing (a combination of boredom + lack of fun) about 3 weeks ago and this patch looks promising...Maybe I'll get back to it.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
THAT'S the general philosophy of the game!?
Yes. Always have been, always will be.
Fenderputty
Banned
Ok ... so I'm one of three monks that uses it. HA.
If they get rid of invulnerable minions and nerf firechains ... might not need it as much. Then it's only usefull for molten and sheilding. Both of which are easier to kite than firechains and invulnerable minions.
I tried using Blinding Flash in it's place but never liked it. The damage buff is way too short and the 3 seconds of blind doesn't affect affixes that I hate the most.
Mhmm, I steamroll them now on my barb, add 3 more dps without raising the HP on the elites and you have a smash fest. In other words, the drop rate for items isnt going to be so bad if a pack can be wiped out so much faster now. Plus a much larger percentage of the loot will be worth a shit with the changes to weapons. All of a sudden anything 60 and above can be a great weapon, and all of a sudden 2 handers will have a chance to be great weapons. Just those two changes alone will have a great effect on the 'loot grind' when combined with the changes to elite pack HP and scaling in 4 player games.
That reads alot like you werent going to come back and play anyway. If nothing short of an expansion with more Acts was going to interest you, then thats fine. But for people like me who like the game, but just wanted all of the bad shit fixed, this looks fantastic. Im definitely going to play again, but not until this shit goes live.
Difficulty was patched out in the very first Inferno nerf mate. Either you cleared inferno before then, or you didn't. Any nerfs from here on out is just easy to more easy.
NullPointer
Member
Just read the notes on 1.04. Looks like they're on the right track.
I'm especially interested to see how certain skills and runes change (as Inferno is not even in my sights).
I'm especially interested to see how certain skills and runes change (as Inferno is not even in my sights).
So much truth there. Wonder how many complaining even cleared Inferno pre nerf anyway, or were they whining about getting stuck in Act 2.
UnluckyKate
Member
too bad it took 3 month...
Blizzard seems slow as hell fixing balance issue. THey have mods with variable and number inputs. They should fix most of the gamers reclaims within days, not month.
But I guess they want to test everything and make a huge patch, not some hotfixes...
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Don't agree.
Players having to willingly and unnaturally gimp themselves in order to challenge themselves at a game means that the game has flaws related to difficulty.
Furthermore, an always online game with multiplayer elements will always have a component of competition to it, despite people who willingly blind themselves to that fact.
Those arguments are crap and don't help promote a better game. Challenge and fun need to be emergent from within the game, not externally.
I agree that it's probably a bit late, but at least it seems like some truly major changes and not just a few band aids.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
I understand that it's a major part of the Diablo endgame, but it shouldn't be the "general philosophy". What about fun, challenge and entertainment? They're making steps towards it with buffing unused skills, but if they're guided by "this makes farming faster", the game will always be a chore to play.
RoninChaos
Member
"I only played for 250 hours. This game sucks".
LOL WTF? REALLY!?
LOL WTF? REALLY!?
Fenderputty
Banned
I'm really curious how this patch will affect the weapons market on the GAH.
BigBlue1974
Member
I know there is a list of people who play, but of course that was from launch I believe. Is there a different location for new/still playing people? Especially with the planned changes, I'd like to team up with some of the other GAF people.
Definity
Member
Yeah.
Wonder if Brimstone will go up in price with the legendary buff? If so, I've got a nice stockpile ready to go.
My guess is that you aren't the only one stockpiling. I can see the market crashing again as hoarders flood the market.
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