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Digital Foundry: Grounded Tech Review - Problems on PS5 and Switch - All Consoles Tested
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Series X:
Topher
Gold Member
Series X:
Josemayuste
Member
I'm playing the Switch version and I think that it is a pretty good port given the Switch hardware. fps seems consistent as graphics do too idk where these alleged 'problems' are coming from honestly.
bender
What time is it?
There is little to say other than that it is an example that a better or worse port of a game will always depend on many factors.
- The Studio that makes the port.
- The effort and means put into the port.
- Whether or not the original version (XBSeries) is updated as well.
What is clear is that MS seems to leave the entire port issue up to each Studio and does not scrutinize the final result.
That said, I have no doubt that they will release patches with improvements.
- The Studio that makes the port.
- The effort and means put into the port.
- Whether or not the original version (XBSeries) is updated as well.
What is clear is that MS seems to leave the entire port issue up to each Studio and does not scrutinize the final result.
That said, I have no doubt that they will release patches with improvements.
JackMcGunns
Member
It's tEh ropes I tell ya.
Seems quite solid on the Series X.
They should really get on patching the PS5 version. Those performance issues aren’t a true reflection of the console’s power.
During the Early access phase, It was 30fps at 900p on Xbox One, with framerate struggles.
No surprise it’s running this poorly on a system that’s less than half as powerful.
The switch is just old at this point. This should have been held back like Sea of Thieves for a Switch 2 release.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Loxus
Member
The funny thing, it's one game that performs poorly vs. the rest.
It's like some people have a bad memory or something and forgot the other games performed better.
If anything, this is a outright poor optimized port.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
What is this real-time revisionist history
Hi-Fi Rush, the only difference is shadow sharpness, otherwise both perform identically
Pentiment: Both have 120hz mode, SX actually runs better (place which drops to 90 fps on PS5 runs at 120 fps on SX)
Sea of Thieves: Same performance, shadow sharpness minor LoD difference in PS5's favor
Grounded: This game has a big gap in both resolution (1215p vs 2160p) and average performance (40's-50's vs locked 60) in SX's favor
Earlier you said that different games will hit bottlenecks on either console differently, which was a pretty sane statement. Now you're out for blood
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Gambit2483
Member
I get why the Switch version exists but maybe they should have held out for Switch 2. 360p docked is ridiculous.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Damm if they do, damn if they don't
lose–lose situation
lose–lose situation
Out for blood? Lol nope just letting it be known that every time people grouped up to come for me I got the last laugh lolWhat is this real-time revisionist history
Hi-Fi Rush, the only difference is shadow sharpness, otherwise both perform identically
Pentiment: Both have 120hz mode, SX actually runs better (place which drops to 90 fps on PS5 runs at 120 fps on SX)
Sea of Thieves: Same performance, shadow sharpness minor LoD difference in PS5's favor
Grounded: This game has a big gap in both resolution (1215p vs 2160p) and average performance (40's-50's vs locked 60) in SX's favor
Earlier you said that different games will hit bottlenecks on either console differently, which was a pretty sane statement. Now you're out for blood
Physiognomonics
Member
Probably using the PS5 in a PS4 BC mode here. 18 CUs at 2.23ghz giving only 5TF so barely better than XSS and would give about the given results. Very odd. It happened in a few Ubisoft games patched to PS5 if I am not mistaken.
Topher
Gold Member
What is this real-time revisionist history
Hi-Fi Rush, the only difference is shadow sharpness, otherwise both perform identically
Pentiment: Both have 120hz mode, SX actually runs better (place which drops to 90 fps on PS5 runs at 120 fps on SX)
Sea of Thieves: Same performance, shadow sharpness minor LoD difference in PS5's favor
Grounded: This game has a big gap in both resolution (1215p vs 2160p) and average performance (40's-50's vs locked 60) in SX's favor
How is what he said "revisionist history"? He is saying pretty much what you are saying. This one game is performing poorly compared to the others.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
How is what he said "revisionist history"? He is saying pretty much what you are saying. This one game is performing poorly compared to the others.
If that's what he meant then it's misreading on my part.
If he meant the other game(s) performed poorly on Xbox because of minor things like sharper shadows, that's the revisionist part.
Calm down Dr. Evil.
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Just remember to stay Grounded there are bigger hills to die on
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
My friend, no one is out to get you, relax lol.
You bring it on yourself with your constant posts / topics where you quote yourself from nearly half a decade ago to gloat over others.
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MadchesterManc
Member
That feeling when your bias gets confirmed by DF
Huh? Out to get me?
But anyway if people wasn't hive minded and attacking my original post I wouldn't have to retrieve my quotes from locked threads
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Grounded is the only one out of the group performing better on Series X.
Grounded is about to become the best Xbox game ever created on Twitter.
Grounded is about to become the best Xbox game ever created on Twitter.
newtypepilot
Member
360p on switch LOL
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
360p is the lowest DRS goes. It doesn't always run at 360p.
King Dazzar
Member
Well that's my future port expectations well and truly grounded...
newtypepilot
Member
DRS between 360p and 720p is pretty inexcusable. 360p is 1/4 the pixel count of 720p. The fact it had to even go that low to reach playable state is very indicative of poor optimization and switch's underpowered hardware.
Portugeezer
Member
Jimbo was right not to trust Xbox with COD 
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Because it's the Switch.
But also seems like a bad porting effort on both consoles. Shouldn't be quite this bad on Switch, and PS5 shouldn't be this far behind the XSX.
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Insane Metal
Member
The Series S CPU is faster than PS5's after all.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
With uneven frame pacing (and potentially uneven camera update layered on top), motion should look consistently inconsistent.I'm playing the Switch version and I think that it is a pretty good port given the Switch hardware. fps seems consistent as graphics do too idk where these alleged 'problems' are coming from honestly.
Playing portable, assuming you don’t hold the screen closer to your eyes to compensate, can reduce the perception of poor motion but it’s not something anyone should be accepting of.
thismeinteil
Member
The real funny thing is how PS fans weren't even the ones looking forward to the DF comparisons. Before launch, Xbox fanboys were salivating in anticipation for the DF vids, because they thought the XSX was going to wipe the floor with PS5. Then, when the comparisons started being in the PS5's favor, with a few dead even, they acted like they didn't care at all about comparisons and PS fans were focusing on them WAY too much. Now, when we get some that are in favor of XSX, they act like it's some big gotcha moment.
Quite the revisionist history. There's only one side that's been had. And it sure as hell isn't the side who hasn't started going 3rd party.
cash_longfellow
Gold Member
Too bad it’s gotta be with this piece of trash for a game
solidus12
Member
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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Gambit2483
Member
Feels like Nintendo really screwed a lot of developers plans for Switch 2 with these supposed internal delays. Devs are either forced to release on the decrepit Switch hardware or take the financial loss and gamble by sitting on the Switch 2 version for God knows how long. Can't imagine too many devs/pubs are happy with Nintendo at this point.
Vroadstar
Member
I have to say this has been one of the most enjoyable threads on Neogaf lately
Wait till Riky starts posting in this thread and by then you know this is the monumental shift Xbox power King thread promised
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DenchDeckard
You should tag and ask the question(s) from the other thread here for a possible technical explanation.
Topher
Gold Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
You should tag and ask the question(s) from the other thread here for a possible technical explanation.
You're damn right!
Lysandros
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Loxus
- What technical strengths of the Xbox design over the PS5s is creating this delta in resolution and performance? If you could explain for us Layman's that would be v. much appreciated.