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[Art Vandilay]

Hard to tell who's trolling anymore.

Right? It's a little out of control

 

[N.Domixis]

Um... Why would they go up and lie in such a public setting? They know they'll get reamed if its a lie.

Sony should probably start sweating just about now because if they lose the performance advantage that's probably going to affect sales quite a bit.

Assuming the 20 percent is real does that make the Xbox more powerful than the ps4?

 

[Jessie.Bristol]

So how much closer is the system capable of getting to 1.31 TFLOPS?
Because to go above 1.31 (which is the spec used in comparing PS4's advantage) with this "20% boost" the GPU clock needs to be higher than 853 MHz. So, this is good for improving the XDK, but it's not the same as increasing the GPU's clock 20%.

Definitely not, and anyone claiming such doesn't know what they're talking about. All DX12 is doing is allowing the Xbox One (and PC) to reach it's theoretical maximum, in this case being 1.31 TFlops.

 

[Fordfx2]

XB1 power boost =

 

[MrMatt555]

I can tell this thread will be great to look back on at some point in the future.

So much potential gold.

You read my mind. lol

 

[Cornbread78]

wow, just wow, newly unlocked power?Lead on Xbox One? anything is possible?do you think a API will unlock more power for a console that alredy has a low level optamized API? youre serious? wow.

you've just been Miles'd dude...

 

[On Demand]

Come on guys.

 

[Coxy]

you cant download 8GB ddr5? pfft

 

[LordOfChaos]

Sony really needs to pull there finger out, have they actual done any optimisation to the PS4 since its been released????

It uses a low level API already, what do you want them to do? I'm sure they're also doing things behind the scenes too, but the point is that DX12 is just shaving down what high level APIs had as overhead, while existing console APIs would already have its benefits.

 

[Akronis]

Right? It's a little out of control

Equal amounts of people trolling and people who have no idea what DirectX actually is or does.

 

[LegalEagleMike]

XB1 power boost =

Have you seen the xbox. Its just a giant vent lol

 

[darkwing]

isn't the 50% cpu the bigger news? 50 > 20

 

[twobear]

Assuming the 20 percent is real does that make the Xbox more powerful than the ps4?

No.

I'm going to pretend against my better judgement that this isn't a troll post.

All they're saying is that the new API is more efficient such that (probably in ideal situations) it's 20% faster at rendering the same frames as the old API.

It's literally impossible for the Xbone to be as fast as the PS4. The PS4's hardware is simply more powerful.

It's also likely that Sony make around a similar level of API improvements over the same amount of time. They just don't have a new API to sell so they're not on stage talking about it.

 

[Lynn616]

Any optimization is a good thing. DX12 looks to be great for Windows and Xbox gaming.

 

[Xando]

So this is like Nvidia and AMD announcing more than 50% improvements on certain games when they release new drivers but really doesn't change much?

 

[cgcg]

50% cpu boost and 20% gpu boost. Wow. This is big news.

Insignificant compared to the infinite power of the cloud though. Wondering why MS is regressing.

 

[ironcreed]

you cant download 8GB ddr5? pfft

No need.

 

[MrMatt555]

isn't the 50% cpu the bigger news? 50 > 20

can that contribute at all to better graphical fidelity?

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

bwahahaha

 

[DarthWalden]

The King Is back!!!

 

[fluffydelusions]

secret sauce is real

 

[SniperHunter]

store link please?

 

[Sohaim]

you've just been Miles'd dude...

oh nvm.

 

[Majine]

That's good, I guess. Optimizations are more interesting than stabilization, nomsayin'

 

[riskVSreward]

Hard to tell who's trolling anymore.

Check to see if the username is Miles Quaritch next time and you won't have to give it so much thought. Kappa

 

[Lettuce]

900 x 1.2 is 1080.

Except guess what? Resolutions are two-dimensional not one-dimensional.

900p is 1600x900, or 1,440,000 pixels.

1080p is 1920x1080, or 2,073,600 pixels.

20% on top of 900p is... 1,728,000.

So assuming that 20% is solely for resolution, 900p could now instead be:
1680 x 1050...

Woo?

WHAT!??. so let me get this straight, you think 20% increase of screen pixels will actually require a 20% boost in GPU power and are trying to related each other thinking its an exact science???. Thats laughable

 

[Dynomutt]

Sony really needs to pull there finger out, have they actual done any optimisation to the PS4 since its been released????

Fixed: Man.....Just scroll down to the portion regrading GPU/ Graphics SDK enhancements.
http://bit.ly/1KkF54n

 

[Ape]

if i could go back 2 years in a time machine, then this would have been funny.

RRRIIDDGEEE RAAACCERRR!!!!

 

[Ray Wonder]

XB1 power boost =

Lol. Even if it gets hotter, that'll just mean the massive fans will get to do some actual work. Right now they're silent, if they're audible with a 20% boost that'll be fine with me.

 

[megatronium]

tinypic must be blocked

 

[Anion]

I don't care how much it improves it. I just want to see how much better the next games look

 

[Phreaker]

Sweet, can't wait!

 

[MrMatt555]

Man.....Just scroll down to the portion regrading GPU/ Graphics SDK enhancements.
http://www.*****************/2014/11/23/ps4-sdk-2-0-revealed-includes-a-lot-of-interesting-new-tech-and-features-game-developers-can-use/

dead link, Junior.

 

[10k]

All joking aside, would a 20% performance be enough to boost 900p to 1080p or 720p to 900/1080p? Or perhaps stabilize framerates that dipped below 30 to stay at 30?

 

[sinnergy]

The age of parity and PS4 usurping Xbone are over LOL. Holy fuck it's actually happening. Who would have thought shitty hardware could be redeemed by a new a API?

Got laughed at a couple of weeks back right here..

when I said an better API gets more out of the hardware lol

 

[Journey]

Xbox One continues to evolve. Wake me when it reaches its final form.

 

[ironcreed]

Any optimization is a good thing. DX12 looks to be great for Windows and Xbox gaming.

That is what I am saying. In all seriousness, any improvement will be welcome and is not a bad thing.

 

[Art Vandilay]

dead link, Junior.

"Don't call me Junior." - Indiana Jones

 

[EvB]

pfft.

20% is nothing compared to Sony's magical frame rate doubling technology

 

[On Demand]

No.

I'm going to pretend against my better judgement that this isn't a troll post.

All they're saying is that the new API is more efficient such that (probably in ideal situations) it's 20% faster at rendering the same frames as the old API.

It's literally impossible for the Xbone to be as fast as the PS4. The PS4's hardware is simply more powerful.

It's also likely that Sony make around a similar level of API improvements over the same amount of time. They just don't have a new API to sell so they're not on stage talking about it.

Yeah. Thread title kinda should be changed. People are thinking the GPU is literally getting more powerful.

 

[wildfire]

so why does this performance boost only affect Xbox One? Aren't they pretty similar in architecture, GPU-wise?

DirectX12 isn't going to be licensed to Sony I would guess. It's the only play MS has and considering the improvements seen with Mantle I can believe their claims about GPU performance under the best cases.

 

[CoG]

All joking aside, would a 20% performance be enough to boost 900p to 1080p or 720p to 900/1080p? Or perhaps stabilize framerates that dipped below 30 to stay at 30?

The problem with the Xbox One hitting 1080p is more a product of a 1080p framebuffer not fitting into 32MB of ESRAM than anything else.

 

[darkwing]

All joking aside, would a 20% performance be enough to boost 900p to 1080p or 720p to 900/1080p? Or perhaps stabilize framerates that dipped below 30 to stay at 30?

someone did the math, a 20% boost to 900p is 1050p

 

[wachie]

Got laughed at a couple of weeks back right here..

when I said an better API gets more out of the hardware lol

You showed them!!!!1

Way to go.

 

[MrMatt555]

QUICK! Someone send that new sdk to Kojima! I Need those sexy ps4 graphics for my xbox Phantom Pain.

 

[Korezo]

Now announce a redesign in E3 and Ill buy one, if its true.

 

[Doug Heffernan]

Great news if true. Gears of War 4 is gonna look sooooooo good.

 

[DJIzana]

Reminds me of that Chrono Trigger picture... Where is it... Ah! Here!

Great gpu boost but still doesn't happen to have any of the games I enjoy.

 

[sinnergy]

Yeah. Thread title kinda should be changed. People are thinking the GPU is literally getting more powerful.

I am reading no such thing.. the API does get more out of the hardware.. as it's more efficient.

 

[aspiegamer]

All joking aside, would a 20% performance be enough to boost 900p to 1080p or 720p to 900/1080p? Or perhaps stabilize framerates that dipped below 30 to stay at 30?

You can't really equate a random number of unknown origins to a resolution. However, after recalibrated for PR rubbish, this is the sort of thing that can help framerates be more stable, yes.

Side note: This thread has been great for the "cloud to butt" extension. See, it even transforms itself in the middle of writing a post!