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Don Mattrick: "If you're backwards compatible, you're really backwards"
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dragonflys545
Member
LOL did they get perm'd too? that would be funny lol.
Diddy Kong
Banned
mycrosft am cry
Then buy an old console.
There's no excuse why digital games on PS4/XBOX One shouldn't carry over. Physical, fine, argue architecture/technicalities all you want, but digital content not carrying forward is big old pile of bullshit. What the fuck is the point of downloading stuff on these systems? I've been saying this for awhile now, but ever since last generation this industry has been cultivating a throwaway culture. These new "profile" systems are for people who just want to play the latest and greatest and move on. There's no interest in nurturing ANYTHING with these new systems. It's all one & done deals, throwaway content. It's games that are there for you to play the instant they're released, but if you're not there for the show, fuck off, be there for our next "box". They're essentially becoming rental systems.
both both of them have that data too. They will have known just how many people were playing old games on the PS3 and X360 around the launch window.
Only people they wouldn't have known about were people playing offline.
do you have faith the new xbox will have better build quality? its a wash IMO
keep your old system, as i said earlier
joffocakes
Member
I guess I'd have to reluctantly agree with him. It's a nice feature to have for enthusiasts but even most of them would be player the newer games instead.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Don't forget Betrayer of hope. Seeing lots of people doom sony at the ps4 unveiling for having no BC and how microsoft would crush them...it seems they just vanished?
it's a bit of a shame. i owned a ps2 only, so one of the selling points for me for the 360 was getting to play a bunch of xbox one original games i missed. which included stuff like halo 1+2 which meant i bought halo 3 and then odst and reach.
it's not quite the same this gen for me as i own a 360 but my 360 is an old model and i constantly fear it will break, so one of the selling points i figured for the xbox one before it was announced was that i would be able to keep my collection of xbla and 360 games without worrying about that.
add on to that the ability to sell old systems to help pay for new ones and reduce clutter around the tv. i miss backwards compatibility
it's not quite the same this gen for me as i own a 360 but my 360 is an old model and i constantly fear it will break, so one of the selling points i figured for the xbox one before it was announced was that i would be able to keep my collection of xbla and 360 games without worrying about that.
add on to that the ability to sell old systems to help pay for new ones and reduce clutter around the tv. i miss backwards compatibility
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Because the PS4 isn't backwards compatible, right? Just because you won't use it doesn't mean others won't, and calling potential customers "backwards" isn't a smart move. Say what you want about Nintendo for not having a proper account system, which they should, but at least your digital purchases will transfer over to the Wii U.
Windom Earle
Member
lol, yeah, was thinking of Noobsaur as well.
to me 12% of your customers is not so low to be bithced, first of all. Secondly, if at the end your console is not aimed at the top notch technology/graphic as they just said today, there is no excuse in ditching the BC into the console, because you already are backwards, imho.
I also don't like the fact that not only games, but also accessories and peripherals are not compatible.
I can save a lot of money in saving, let's say...the second/third pad from my existing Xbox360 and the headset and so on...
I also don't like the fact that not only games, but also accessories and peripherals are not compatible.
I can save a lot of money in saving, let's say...the second/third pad from my existing Xbox360 and the headset and so on...
IdreamofHIME
Member
He needs to make a comment about it doesn't matter what price the console is in the USA coz Americans will buy it anyway, then we're in full 2006 bizzaro world.
Interfectum
Member
Someone should tell Valve to remove games that are over 5 years old from Steam. No one wants to buy/play them anymore.
And who would be interested in an xbox 360 now that hasnt had the chance to buy one since 2005? cmon
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Then my money is going backwards into my wallet you smug fuck.
Captain Tuttle
Member
I'm disappointed about no BC but I can live with it. I think that Sony's "plan" won't work very well either and by the time it's implemented people won't care anymore.
ShadowgeistX
Member
Seems I'm just too backwards for their new system, lol.
Old systems break. Old systems stop going into production. As systems became more advanced they become more likely to break down. With a 360 going out of production, the price goes up more and more every year.
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
What sucks though is that MS, as well as other companies, are making more difficult to keep old consoles to play older games. At some point in the coming years you won't be able to access the DLC you paid for on the 360. I assume next gen after x1 you won't be able to access any game, wether you still have the "shiny disk" or not.
considering max payne 2 can run on any PC thats not a toaster and look a million times better and is cheaper than dirt on steam... ya that does seem messed up to me
xbox version was compromised to hell from day 1
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Turn the head on the ps4 who would be interested in ps3 exclusives if they getting a ps4, plenty of people because Sony is still releasing things for the PS3, and has a decent amount of exclusives.
Older 360's tend to break a lot. My arcade model from 2008 got the RROD a couple of months ago.
It stopped me from getting a ps4 at launch, and no bc has stopped me from getting a xbox one at launch as well.
It's like investing in entirely new platforms. If it was bc I could play my already owned titles and experience the new system at the same time. If it isn't bc I don't really have any reason to invest in the new systems, unless something comes out that really makes me want the system (and I don't mean car racer number 52 or call of duty 86 or halo 12, etc)
Arkos
Nose how to spell and rede to
This is what I say to all the assholes who complain that they can't listen to the White Album because they don't have a record player anymore. Get with the times people! It's called Kanye.
...wait, what?
Oh really?
Oh, you can?
And with movies too?
Wait, so you're telling me I can listen to the White Album AND watch the Wizard of Oz still?
Bullshit, no company would ever be that nice to its consumers
(says the gamer growing up in this gen)
...wait, what?
Oh really?
Oh, you can?
And with movies too?
Wait, so you're telling me I can listen to the White Album AND watch the Wizard of Oz still?
Bullshit, no company would ever be that nice to its consumers
(says the gamer growing up in this gen)
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
FlyingSaucer
Banned
PC : backwards since 81 and proud of it !
The Last One
Member
You have to buy a new version of the White Album though, you can't put the vinyl in your CD player.
I just think it sucks for XBLA/PSN games. I just feel it's different because they are strictly digital.
It's funny how being backwards compatible has kind of hurt Nintendo and Sony, in different ways.
For Nintendo it held back the hardware power, and for Sony it just made it cost prohibitive.
Sony has given it up but WiiU is still tied to the Broadway architecture.
It's funny how being backwards compatible has kind of hurt Nintendo and Sony, in different ways.
For Nintendo it held back the hardware power, and for Sony it just made it cost prohibitive.
Sony has given it up but WiiU is still tied to the Broadway architecture.
MisterHero
Super Member
"If you're backwards and are dumb enough to buy XBone, here's a new add-on I'd like to sell you!"
uuaschbaer
Banned
I only use my PS3 for PS2 games anymore. But that's not the point. Parents like to hear that the money they spent last gen won't prove to have been for something that's suddenly vanished.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Isn't it possible that backwards compatibility was not a big deal before now, but is a big deal now because more and more stuff is being purchased digitally and because Apple has trained people's expectations? I feel like doing a survey of how many people played Xbox OG games on Xbox 360 and using that as a go-forward decision making point is probably a little foolish
dragonflys545
Member
Don't forget Betrayer of hope. Seeing lots of people doom sony at the ps4 unveiling for having no BC and how microsoft would crush them...it seems they just vanished?
Yeah I was just about to ask. Where were those people talking trash about BC for PS4?
I suppose. But it amounts to little more than Microsoft's "we have 15 exclusives in the pipeline that we'll be showing you later" position, but we take their word for it.
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