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Dragon Quest IV English site open. Release date Sept. 16, 2008!
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TekunoRobby
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:lolMan God said:
However a more apt name is the "Final Fantaxy XIII Relief Fund"
Himuro said:
That's a good story, and thanks for sharing it as I never played DQ 7. A slightly similar story telling the tale of a strange, for lack of a better word without completely spoiling everything, relationship between AI and mistress exists in the first Knights of the Old Republic as well. Although I am using inferred logic, I can at least (hopefully without any pretensions) say I partially connect with this sordid tale. ^
Himuro said:
I cried deeply when I saw that outcome in DQVII. Also the chapter that had
the worm like pet creature that sacrifices himself to save the town from an evil plant
Dragona Akehi
Retired
NolbertoS said:
What was awesome was that in the present
the legend of "the Hero" had complicated itself SO much that the monument they made for him was a person! Not a worm
Dragona Akehi said:
Yes I remember that the townspeople,
distorted the tale and that the "hero" came to save them, when in fact they tried to kill the worm in the past.
was completely turned into stone and seeing the ghost town and there fate made me angry that I literally wanted to hunt down the Demon Lord personally and kill him, yes like I said that DQ game touched me to the soul, like never before.
Dragona Akehi
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Great boxart!
The dude is so totally going "Bitches don't know about my Zenithias."
The dude is so totally going "Bitches don't know about my Zenithias."
jaundicejuice
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Why does it have to come out in September? Why not, you know, now?
Crazymoogle
Member
Id. said:
Secretly in all of our hearts we want all three games released, once a month, until summer is over.
Anyway, boxart looks awesome. The game of september is primed and ready!
DXB-KNIGHT
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GreatXaekid said:
I'm so there.
, is this the first time a Square Enix non-Japanese boxart looks better than the Japanese one?
Hours Left
Member
I wished we could have gotten an original Toriyama art piece. Not really fond of the practice of pasting character art on the box, but the North American version does look slightly better than the Japanese version.
Oh well, still excited!
Oh well, still excited!
Red Scarlet
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They look too similar to me to make a comparison. Alena and Manya/Mara are checking each other out on the American one. :lol
grandjedi6
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soul said:
Well it is coming out in September for Europe too
Dragona Akehi
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Yoboman said:
Yes! Very good! My personal favourites are III and VII.
Magicpaint
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IV comes directly after my top 3: VI -> V -> III.
Dark Octave
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Wait, so what's happening with DQIX? Why are we going backwards to IV?
Dragona Akehi
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Dark Octave said:
DQIX isn't ready yet.
Dark Octave
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Ok, I just googled DQIV and it seems like it may be pretty good. I wonder about the fighting portions though. I would at least like to see my characters on screen. Has anyone seen the fighting portions of the DS remake yet?Dragona Akehi said:DQIX isn't ready yet.
Magicpaint
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DQVIII (and now IX) is the only one where you can see your party members in battle. The first person view has been a series staple for years and it works extremely well. No worries.Dark Octave said:
Magicpaint
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And according to Aeana and Scarlet, the DS version is even faster.zoku88 said:
(I only played the DS remake)Dark Octave
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I guess I can live without on screen characters during battles. At least it's faster as a result. After DQVIII I've been dying to hop back into a similar feeling world. Not too sure if this is a spoiler or not, but I find it interesting that the main character joins the game
It's actually pretty cool, imo.
Count me in as, officially excited about Dragon Quest IV on DS.
so late.
Count me in as, officially excited about Dragon Quest IV on DS.
Damnit. First I'm gonna need a Wii so I can play Samba de Amigo (RIP, Dreamcast + Maracas), and now I'm going to need a DS to play the DQ remakes. I wish they'd re-release DQ 1&2 and DQ3 for either GBA or DS, then I could have almost all the DQ games on one convenient system.
Great observation on how DQ's storytelling is so different from most other RPGs. It's something I've always known, but it's sorta intangible and hard to describe. I've played through every DQ game, and I love them all. If I had to rank them:
DQ3 - Being able to reclass and keep all your abilities/spells was awesome. Plus it featured an unparalleled level of customization (no other DQ lets you choose your party members' names, with a few exceptions like the wild panther in DQ5). Every single class has a use, even the Joker (
).
DQ5 - The family element was done really well, and connected with me strongly.
DQ7 - I -loved- all the vignettes you play through. It gives you a strong tie to the people of the world. It's also the closest DQ has come to the "religion = evil" cliche, which is why it's below DQ5. Yes, the graphics sucked, but I valued the instantaneous load times much more. A prettier-but-slower game just wouldn't have been DQ.
DQ8 - Pretty, but more or less by-the-numbers. Wins the "most disappointing big bad reveal ever" award. Seriously, you look at the end bosses of the DQ games, and the best you can do is the Stay Puft Marshmellow Demon?
DQ4 (NES) - The DS remake may make it higher up the list. On the NES, chapters 1-4 are full of win, but chapter 5 is a mess thanks to all the NPCs being in permanent AI mode. Granted, you can more or less get your party to do what you want by constantly fiddling with the AI, but usually when you use an AI script that enables something awesome, the party members do something really stupid too (like cast spells while stopspelled).
DQ6 - Didn't care for the story premise; job system is to DQ7 what FF5 is to Tactics: an introductory system, but not refined. I found it quite tedious.
tie: DQ2 (NES) - dear God, where to start. I'm pretty sure this is the worst of the entire series when it comes to grinding. The level up requirements towards the end of the game are.. mindnumbing. The characters are two weaklings and a powerhouse. The only thing going for the game is that the game really rewards you for exploring and talking to everyone (if you take notes, you can solve every puzzle w/o a hint book), and the fact that the GBC version fixed the absurd XP requirements and toned down the difficulty to "sane" mode.
DQ1 (NES) - The most primitive of all the games: keys are consumables (retconned reason: the key guy had a defective recipe that produced shoddy keys, or did that on purpose to make money). You have to use a STAIRS command to go up and down stairs (only game where it isn't automatic). Also the only NES DQ to have graphics behind the monsters in battle mode. The NES game is also tough as nails--even at level 30, the Dragon Lord would kick your ass more than half the time.
The GBC remake is totally neutered. While they toned down DQ2 to "sane," they put DQ1 down into retard mode. The only thing worthwhile about the remake is a better script and better graphics.
But again, we're talking about a scale of "kick ass" to "excellent."
Great observation on how DQ's storytelling is so different from most other RPGs. It's something I've always known, but it's sorta intangible and hard to describe. I've played through every DQ game, and I love them all. If I had to rank them:
DQ3 - Being able to reclass and keep all your abilities/spells was awesome. Plus it featured an unparalleled level of customization (no other DQ lets you choose your party members' names, with a few exceptions like the wild panther in DQ5). Every single class has a use, even the Joker (
you can reroll a lvl 20 jester directly into a Sage without that stupid book/scroll
DQ5 - The family element was done really well, and connected with me strongly.
DQ7 - I -loved- all the vignettes you play through. It gives you a strong tie to the people of the world. It's also the closest DQ has come to the "religion = evil" cliche, which is why it's below DQ5. Yes, the graphics sucked, but I valued the instantaneous load times much more. A prettier-but-slower game just wouldn't have been DQ.
DQ8 - Pretty, but more or less by-the-numbers. Wins the "most disappointing big bad reveal ever" award. Seriously, you look at the end bosses of the DQ games, and the best you can do is the Stay Puft Marshmellow Demon?
DQ4 (NES) - The DS remake may make it higher up the list. On the NES, chapters 1-4 are full of win, but chapter 5 is a mess thanks to all the NPCs being in permanent AI mode. Granted, you can more or less get your party to do what you want by constantly fiddling with the AI, but usually when you use an AI script that enables something awesome, the party members do something really stupid too (like cast spells while stopspelled).
DQ6 - Didn't care for the story premise; job system is to DQ7 what FF5 is to Tactics: an introductory system, but not refined. I found it quite tedious.
tie: DQ2 (NES) - dear God, where to start. I'm pretty sure this is the worst of the entire series when it comes to grinding. The level up requirements towards the end of the game are.. mindnumbing. The characters are two weaklings and a powerhouse. The only thing going for the game is that the game really rewards you for exploring and talking to everyone (if you take notes, you can solve every puzzle w/o a hint book), and the fact that the GBC version fixed the absurd XP requirements and toned down the difficulty to "sane" mode.
DQ1 (NES) - The most primitive of all the games: keys are consumables (retconned reason: the key guy had a defective recipe that produced shoddy keys, or did that on purpose to make money). You have to use a STAIRS command to go up and down stairs (only game where it isn't automatic). Also the only NES DQ to have graphics behind the monsters in battle mode. The NES game is also tough as nails--even at level 30, the Dragon Lord would kick your ass more than half the time.
The GBC remake is totally neutered. While they toned down DQ2 to "sane," they put DQ1 down into retard mode. The only thing worthwhile about the remake is a better script and better graphics.
But again, we're talking about a scale of "kick ass" to "excellent."
Nice. I am eagerly looking forward to being able to play DQ4 without AI retard crap.
Not sure if 5 or 6 will really be worthwhile. It'll be interesting to hear if there's anything new for them...but honestly I wasn't too much of a fan of either. At least I hope they make the monster-members less random when joining.
Not sure if 5 or 6 will really be worthwhile. It'll be interesting to hear if there's anything new for them...but honestly I wasn't too much of a fan of either. At least I hope they make the monster-members less random when joining.
Dragona Akehi
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Already ordered and paid in full. I can't wait. September is so far away... D:
bafflewaffle
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Pardon my ignorance, but what are those fin lookin things around his head?Xaekid said:
I'm so there.