I would say Japan innovated in the area of fan miscommunication over the years, with Capcom leading the pack
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Dungeons & Dragons Chronicles of Mystara's Japanese PS3 retail release is different?!
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I would say Japan innovated in the area of fan miscommunication over the years, with Capcom leading the pack
PixyJunket
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Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Oh well, this is an easy choice, Iron Galaxy does great work, their version is $15 and not exclusive to the one system I don't own.
Still, that four-player option and color edit mode sound sweet, just not buy a new system and pay three times as much for the game sweet.
Oh well, this is an easy choice, Iron Galaxy does great work, their version is $15 and not exclusive to the one system I don't own.
Still, that four-player option and color edit mode sound sweet, just not buy a new system and pay three times as much for the game sweet.
Pretty much this. I was eagerly awaiting the digital release but now I'm going to hold out until we know the answers to those questions. Fucking Capcpom.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Well...oh well.
I went ahead and picked up the Steam version.
Iron Galaxy deserves the support, even if Capcom doesn't.
I went ahead and picked up the Steam version.
Iron Galaxy deserves the support, even if Capcom doesn't.
You will be so busy with Divekick by the time the Japanese version comes out that it won't even matter.
Tizoc
Member
OT is up guys:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=595051
Post your online usernames for PSN, etc. and I'll add them to the first post~
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=595051
Post your online usernames for PSN, etc. and I'll add them to the first post~
Bassmastergeneral
Member
Very nice! I was already down with the physical version in addition to digital. Glad to see that there are reasons to help justify the huge price difference.
I'm getting it on retail as well. Screw download only.
Hours Left
Member
This is lame. Why can't both versions have everything?
Now I don't know which one to get. :/
Now I don't know which one to get. :/
Rickenslacker
Banned
Glad I was always gonna get the JP release for the physical package in the first place.
It's the same thing with Sega. Even today it seems like both America and Europe have no idea what's going on.
- Sonic 1 got a complete remake for iOS and Android with full widescreen support, different characters, spindash, and excellent UI design, all by two dudes.
- Sonic 1 then also gets a remake for 3DS in Japan, isn't widescreen, but they added Spindash and 3D effects.
Like, why would you do that? It makes absolutely no sense.
Azure Dream
Member
Hey, our game that just came out... Surprise! You got the inferior version!*
*Assuming the netcode isn't trash.
I think it's actually a move they copped from Sega. At least they were on different platforms there, though... (Edit: Just beaten.)
*Assuming the netcode isn't trash.
I think it's actually a move they copped from Sega. At least they were on different platforms there, though... (Edit: Just beaten.)
will pay full price if that's the case
Regardless of which version ends up being superior (which does indeed reflect an odd decision by Capcom, one that was also discussed in the OT I believe), could someone tell me why I simply can't play any of these HD rereleases whithout having them look like rubbish on my (LED) HD tv?
I've tried with multiple games, including the demo of D&D, and none of the filters really help. The "normal" setting makes the pixels stand out so much it makes it hard to see details such as faces etc. (an effect which was possibly softened by older CRT tv's in the past), "smooth" puts vaseline over the image and "crisp" is so bright and pixelated it makes my eyes hurt (literally).
Any tips on what tv settings to use perhaps guys? I simply can't fit a CRT tv in my room, so that is not an option unfortunately.
(and sorry for the slight derail)
I've tried with multiple games, including the demo of D&D, and none of the filters really help. The "normal" setting makes the pixels stand out so much it makes it hard to see details such as faces etc. (an effect which was possibly softened by older CRT tv's in the past), "smooth" puts vaseline over the image and "crisp" is so bright and pixelated it makes my eyes hurt (literally).
Any tips on what tv settings to use perhaps guys? I simply can't fit a CRT tv in my room, so that is not an option unfortunately.
(and sorry for the slight derail)
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
If you're willing to wait, I don't see it as a bad idea.
Me. I will. Over here. This guy.
When a company gets too big, communication shuts down. I've seen it in companies I've worked in. It's a sad byproduct of bloat, but not unheard of.
I swear, that's the first thing I thought of, as soon as I read the announcement.
And it's not even that unlikely, considering the recent team-up on Arcade Cabinet.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I'm sure this is a misinterpretation on Capcom's part on what different regions desire. JP folks reacted well to M2's Sega Ages series, while US audiences reacted well to Iron Galaxy's releases. They look at differing releases as delivering both markets what they want. I don't know more than you guys know, but that's what it looks like from the outside.
I'm getting both (XBLA and PS3 retail) since 360 games are a little better for Cab play, disc for the collection.
But good to hear the japanese retail is different. Really getting sick of Iron Galaxy. Got the Vampire disc a few weeks back because it was $23 but it is just damn fugly. They put in fantastic features then just completely drop the ball with visuals. Not Backbone level but approaching that. 360 D&D is just more of the same crap from what I played of the demo.
http://www.capcom.co.jp/DandD/new_system/option2.html
http://www.capcom.co.jp/DandD/new_system/bounus_contents.html
More stuff announced for the retail game:
- They're adding a new easiest setting in the difficulty selection which starts players with full item/magic stock, a dragon shield, and the ability to open chests without keys. The game also retains all the arcade difficulty settings and there's a super hardcore setting for pro players.
- There's New Game+ function now. Instead of getting a Game Over after completing the game, players can use their characters to start new games while retaining their levels and stats. You can also choose higher difficulty levels in these subsequent playthroughs.
- Stages you have completed can be replayed with a chapter select option, where you can pick which part of the stage you want to start from. There are also boss strategy videos to help players who have problems beating the bosses.
- Bonus content includes tons of artwork and original design materials from the development of the arcade games, introduction videos for the various classes, and video interviews with the original developers of the arcade games.
Looking at the UI for the bonus features... I'm really starting to think M2 might be doing this port... that would be... amazing.
http://www.capcom.co.jp/DandD/new_system/bounus_contents.html
More stuff announced for the retail game:
- They're adding a new easiest setting in the difficulty selection which starts players with full item/magic stock, a dragon shield, and the ability to open chests without keys. The game also retains all the arcade difficulty settings and there's a super hardcore setting for pro players.
- There's New Game+ function now. Instead of getting a Game Over after completing the game, players can use their characters to start new games while retaining their levels and stats. You can also choose higher difficulty levels in these subsequent playthroughs.
- Stages you have completed can be replayed with a chapter select option, where you can pick which part of the stage you want to start from. There are also boss strategy videos to help players who have problems beating the bosses.
- Bonus content includes tons of artwork and original design materials from the development of the arcade games, introduction videos for the various classes, and video interviews with the original developers of the arcade games.
Looking at the UI for the bonus features... I'm really starting to think M2 might be doing this port... that would be... amazing.
Tizoc
Member
http://www.capcom.co.jp/DandD/new_system/option2.html
http://www.capcom.co.jp/DandD/new_system/bounus_contents.html
More stuff announced for the retail game:
- They're adding a new easiest setting in the difficulty selection which starts players with full item/magic stock, a dragon shield, and the ability to open chests without keys. The game also retains all the arcade difficulty settings and there's a super hardcore setting for pro players.
- There's New Game+ function now. Instead of getting a Game Over after completing the game, players can use their characters to start new games while retaining their levels and stats. You can also choose higher difficulty levels in these subsequent playthroughs.
- Stages you have completed can be replayed with a chapter select option, where you can pick which part of the stage you want to start from. There are also boss strategy videos to help players who have problems beating the bosses.
- Bonus content includes tons of artwork and original design materials from the development of the arcade games, introduction videos for the various classes, and video interviews with the original developers of the arcade games.
Looking at the UI for the bonus features... I'm really starting to think M2 might be doing this port... that would be... amazing.
Nice stuff hopefully these make it in some form to the English release >_<
Boogalogist
Member
New game+?? I'm in!!
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Good lord this release is looking great.
Since I'm employed again I might have to consider throwing down the cash.
Since I'm employed again I might have to consider throwing down the cash.
There's a stage event recording showing Capcom staff playing the actual game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QytIWYOJqVM#t=525s
It has a proper original title screen for the individual games as well, unlike the US release.
It has a proper original title screen for the individual games as well, unlike the US release.
http://www.capcom.co.jp/DandD/new_system/option2.html
http://www.capcom.co.jp/DandD/new_system/bounus_contents.html
More stuff announced for the retail game:
- They're adding a new easiest setting in the difficulty selection which starts players with full item/magic stock, a dragon shield, and the ability to open chests without keys. The game also retains all the arcade difficulty settings and there's a super hardcore setting for pro players.
- There's New Game+ function now. Instead of getting a Game Over after completing the game, players can use their characters to start new games while retaining their levels and stats. You can also choose higher difficulty levels in these subsequent playthroughs.
- Stages you have completed can be replayed with a chapter select option, where you can pick which part of the stage you want to start from. There are also boss strategy videos to help players who have problems beating the bosses.
- Bonus content includes tons of artwork and original design materials from the development of the arcade games, introduction videos for the various classes, and video interviews with the original developers of the arcade games.
Looking at the UI for the bonus features... I'm really starting to think M2 might be doing this port... that would be... amazing.
:S Sigh. Will have to buy that version too now. Thank you Capcom for that backward decision to make two different ports of the game.
AcceptableGhost
Member
How often has this happened? Same year ports of the same game by different companies for the same platform.
I can't think of any other examples to be honest. Or does the Ico/SotC collection count, because the Japanese version had additional artwork, a deluxe box etc.?
The only other similar case are old games that were released in two regions with difference at almost the same time, but even that is not really similar.
Some updates since the last posts:
- I actually don't think M2 is working on this. It's possible, but it seems more likely reading the director's statements on the game that it is developed by the internal Capcom team responsible for the PS2 releases of Street Fighter Zero Fighters Generation and Vampire: Darkstalkers Collection. Still a bunch of talented folks.
- There will also be a digital download version on PSN in Japan, for the same price as the retail copy (3990yen)
- Today they revealed the online interface of the game showing lobby, matchmaking, and leaderboards: http://www.4gamer.net/games/217/G021731/20130808065/
- I actually don't think M2 is working on this. It's possible, but it seems more likely reading the director's statements on the game that it is developed by the internal Capcom team responsible for the PS2 releases of Street Fighter Zero Fighters Generation and Vampire: Darkstalkers Collection. Still a bunch of talented folks.
- There will also be a digital download version on PSN in Japan, for the same price as the retail copy (3990yen)
- Today they revealed the online interface of the game showing lobby, matchmaking, and leaderboards: http://www.4gamer.net/games/217/G021731/20130808065/
AgentOtaku
Member
I asked in the other thread but didn't get a response. Do we think this version is gonna be english friendly/include subtitles?
It's still up for preorder on PlayAsia and I wanna bite...
It's still up for preorder on PlayAsia and I wanna bite...
AcceptableGhost
Member
Even if it didn't have English it seems like this will be the version to get...
Yeah, menus don't seem like M2. But looks like more love has been put into it.
I still think the best of both world is to grab one on XBLA (or Wii U for Gamepad playback) and then retail JPN PS3. That is what I'm doing. Still waiting on the Wii U version, sadly.
AgentOtaku
Member
Yup, I'm gonna do the same. US PSN version and importing retail sku
Where the hell is the Wii U version anyway!? Was it even gonna have decent added features, or just off-screen play?
AgentOtaku
Member
Any impressions of this yet by chance?
AgentOtaku
Member
Anyone who speaks/reads Japanese here on GAF willing to read off what the "Options" are under the "Option1" and "Option2" tabs?
Japanese website for DnD
Obviously just trying to confirm if there's a language toggle in there or not
thanks!
Japanese website for DnD
Obviously just trying to confirm if there's a language toggle in there or not
thanks!
distantmantra
Member
I don't see a language option.
BubblegumCrisis
Member
the highlighted selection on the third picture says "Character Voice= English"
No option for text from what I see.
No option for text from what I see.
AgentOtaku
Member
booooooo!
Bar81
Member
No, they are perfectly playable without having a clue what anyone is saying (there are branching paths but who cares if you're saving villagers or some princess really). I think people however, just prefer to be able to read what's going on even if it's not necessary; I know I do when given the choice.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Totally forgot about this. Hopefully prices won't be awful to import this late.
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