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EA and Visceral Games Announce Battlefield Hardline Premium
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ElzarTheBam
Member
Fatal Futanari
Member
Don't get why people are shitting on this game's DLC practice and expect for Battlefront to be different. Its probably going to have a premium pass too. I can't wait to see everyone's justification for that one.
joecanada
Member
bf3 premium was well worth it. BF4 didn't even work, let alone buying more maps that didn't work ... in fact some of the premium maps were worst of all judging by youtube reviewing.
The maps seem to work fine for me and all of the other players packing in the 64-player servers...
It's not thought, Premium for Battlefield 3 and 4 was a good deal and I am sure this will be a great deal as well.
This is far from a scam and your insane if you think it is. I don't even plan to buy hardline and have no interest in it.
Your absolutely delusional if you think this. There's nothing wrong with DLC like this.
joecanada
Member
yeah they work fine NOW , when there's barely any traffic anymore and after 8 months worth of patches.... so actually you are right, I changed my mind.....
buy this used after 8 months. 30 bucks.
Stahp, there are some good maps in the DLC
joecanada
Member
Im referring to the lag and rubberbanding from before affecting certain maps, not the quality of the maps themselves... I would have bought the dlc if the game was playable.
Because we've been waiting a decade for Battlefront.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Irrelevant.
It's still the next game from the people that actually made and published BF4.
nhlducks35
Member
I don't think you understand what a scam is
Fatal Futanari
Member
Well that's a shit reason lol
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
So have I and I know fully well to expect Premium to be exactly the same as it is for Battlefield. And I embrace it.
If thats going to be the real argument..
Anton Sugar
Member
lololol, I'm not even buying Hardline. Not because I don't enjoy it (I had a lot of fun in the beta) but out of principle and to avoid BF4-like server issues.
There's danger in jumping on the hate train when it is full of accusations about "scams" when, historically, BF's post-launch content not that much different from the amount of content and price of BF2 expansion content.
IF we can assume that the amount of content delivered for the price is similar to BF3/4 Premium, it will blow away the amount content released for BC2.
Remember, 6/7 of the free map packs for BC2 were "we added Rush to X map/we added Conquest to Y map". Vietnam didn't have anywhere near the amount of content that Premium did.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Shit tier? Shit tier.
Battlefield is one of the few games that does DLC right. Basically they offer at least an expansion pack's with of content within a year of the game, none of which appears to be cut before release just to sell later. And this is real content- game modes, new weapons, vehicles, maps, challenges, not just cosmetic nonsense or new skins/camo...but you get that too with Premium. It's a legitimately good deal and one of the few DLC approaches that delivers and makes sense.
Anyone not seeing that has a blinding hate-on for EA. I don't even like EA, but here I am, forced to defend them.
By the by, I'm not even buying this. BF4 is still good for me, and I'll await either new DLC for that or Battlefront.
Anyone not seeing that has a blinding hate-on for EA. I don't even like EA, but here I am, forced to defend them.
By the by, I'm not even buying this. BF4 is still good for me, and I'll await either new DLC for that or Battlefront.
The real question is if the Deluxe stuff exclusive for that version of the game? Or is it only an early unlock thing? I haven't seen Visceral saying anything about it.
Amen.
Jeffolation
Banned
As long as they don't put out a Bad Company 3 I can continue to safely ignore this junk series.
Dyson Industries
Banned
You'd have to a stone cold idiot to pre-purchase any Battlefield related DLC after the Battlefield Four car crash. No chance, no way, EA can take their grindy bullshit and stick it up their asses. See you in eighteen months when this is on sale for 20 bucks.
We have NOT FORGOTTEN. They'll find out soon enough.
We have NOT FORGOTTEN. They'll find out soon enough.
I think it is just that extra $50 on top of $60 for the game that is announced before the game even drops that looks so unappealing on the surface for many of us. As for me? The base game will be enough once it is available on the cheap or in the EA access vault. I enjoyed BF4 the same way and got all I wanted out of it.
Coffee Dog
Banned
I always joke about which publishers will release the first $70 game, but when you have people paying $100+ dollars for the newest (annual!) Battlefield game, you sort of realize that maybe it's already here.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
You might want to refrain from calling anyone who doesn't rabidly defend EA's scam artistry as 'insane' or 'delusional.' It's like you're a PR mouthpiece for the company.
That is fair enough- the price is justified IMO, but it is understandable why that would be off putting, especially pre-release. I get why they do that though, just so you know that it's coming.
I didn't pick up Premium for BF4 until it was on it's second pack I don't think- so by that time I enjoyed it enough to want more (despite is hilariously inept launch and ensuing months).
I wouldn't buy Premium day one myself, but they give you a decent enough overview of what to expect that of you like the core game, you at least know it's there.
joecanada
Member
battlefield 3 turned out pretty good and the premium wasn't bad... but yeah it's been straight downhill after BC2....
may as well remaster BC2 at this point.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Have fun paying $100+ for your annualized Battlefield game from a company known to release a broken product at launch. I'm sure it'll be worth the money.
People pay 60 dollars for games wich you finish in 6 hours.
In every BF game i played more then 600 hours. So 110 is money well spend.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
You and the 10 other people can keep giving EA dirty looks from your corner. BF4's shitty launch did not impact the public perception franchise as much as you'd like to believe. Most people who aren't getting Hardline aren't getting it either because they disagree with the theme, just see it as a stop gap until SWBF, or are content with BF4 and the free new content we are getting this year.
It was a really shitty launch and I don't appreciate that EA forced the game out before it was ready to beat COD. But the game it is now is fantastic. I'm not deterred at all from buying SWBF because of it.
What Battlefield game came out in 2014 again? I may have missed it.
joecanada
Member
AMEN brother. I was the biggest BF fan ever , probably had 300 hours or who even knows how much in BF3....
... 60-70 hours just TRYING to like/play/get my money from bf4, literally getting dizzy from the rubberbanding and lag.
never forget.
Hopefully you're right. I haven't pre ordered yet (getting the digital version) but I'm getting the regular edition. I don't want to support this kind of exclusive content.
The 'Star Wars' name will erase any of those sour feelings you might expect, guaranteed.
legacyzero
Banned
I usually love the extensions that come with with Premium. I still hate that they split the community.
My BIGGEST problem with Premium, however is having to buy it a second time if I own the game on another platform.
My BIGGEST problem with Premium, however is having to buy it a second time if I own the game on another platform.
Very very true. Especially if you think you'll be burned again by their "Cycle of Perpetration and Apology".
Now anyone that defends the value proposition of Premium is an EA shill.
Incredible.
I'm not even buying Premium right away, I will play the base game, and if I see myself liking it enough, I'll buy Premium eventually. Just like I did with BF4's.
60$ isn't 110$ but I see where you are coming from. Just strangely odd from my pov, spending 50$ for dlc that most would of been free years back. Video games as it stands is becoming more expensive for less content.
That $50 of DLC would've been like 2 or 3 $20 expansion packs back in the BF1942 and BF2 days.
Only thing that changed is now they're called DLC and that name has become toxic in the minds of many.
The Lone Courier
Member
Well I'm out. I was gonna buy it but not with this BS.
They don't do that. At all. Not with Battlefield. Premium is genuine extra content.
The Sims though? Yeah, that's a whole 'nother story.
Anton Sugar
Member
This. Silver lining: the shitty launch and backlash against EA help prop up the CTE, which has led to some of the best improvements that the series has seen and has actually let the community shape the game.
I just hope DICE also implements a lot of Hardline's improvements into the next BF or Battlefront.
Agreed on both fronts.
Except, again, it probably wouldn't have been. BF2 was charging for expansion packs and their 2 booster packs.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Yeah. Some people here are just too young to remember expansion packs. The expansions backs that came out for 1942, BF2, and 2142 were virtually the same as the DLC we've been getting since BF3. People were spoiled by the VIP system of Bad Company 2 giving four while maps for free with no new guns and handing out other game modes on stock maps piece meal.
Only BC2 Vietnam is comparable to a single DLC pack for BF3/4.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
B..b..but you get a discount on the content that should been included in the base game!
Announcing DLC before a product is even out just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, especially from a company who releases broken games at launch. I find it amazing that people are willing to pay money upfront and then defend the practice to the death. If you enjoy annualized FPSs that don't innovate and price gouge then good for that person but it's not my cup of tea.