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Early impressions from RPS for ME:A. It's... not good
- Thread starter Kumquat
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LOL. Here we go . . .
Those are not bad! What Dreamcast game is it?
ToysAndMoreClub
Member
Hopefully it is just slow. If it is bad then that can't be justified. I'm banking on it taking long to develop because you are starting out as a new character and not the legendary Sheppard. Then again, I haven't played it and they have, so they know better than I do.
Tyraniboah
Member
I agree. Seems like standard video game fare. It's not the greatest, but certainly not the cringeworthy shit-fest we're being led to believe it is. I've enjoyed the few hours I've put in so far and I'll probably get around to it after Zelda, but the technical issues are real. I might finally upgrade my graphics card, drop my consoles (except Nintendo!), and get back into PC gaming. My processor is only an i7 3770 and I planned on grabbing a 1070 or 1080 so I hope I can run it pretty well.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
Hmm promising.
psynergylover
Member
Had to cancel my pre-order for Persona 5 anyway, looks like I won't be missing too much.
Bioware outdid Telltale in jank so much that Telltale's CEO stepped down.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1352997&page=100000#footer
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1352997&page=100000#footer
It could be. Peebee and the Turian lady gave a great first impression, but I hardly got any time to interact with them. As a bonus, you don't notice their jank too much as they're aliens.
Wait, is that an actual line? Because that's actually kind of funny. Got a chuckle out of me.
welp, that's all I needed to hear. Thank you.
Gonna wait a couple of years like I did with Mass Effect 3 (when I could play the full game
Tranqueris
Banned
If I wanted to spend my trial time on something besides the multiplayer I'd go take a screenshot of one particular red head NPC that was looking horrific. Not the lady with the accent but an NPC that just had one line of dialogue before she magically vanished.
Gotta disagree with you on that one. That was pretty funny. 😂
Happen with babylon 5 series 1
It's not like they intentionally put in bad writing.
Same here. It's always looked like a Mass Effect game by devs that don't get Mass Effect. It has all the trappings but none of the heart kind of thing from what I've seen. That it's looked that way since the reveal is pretty shocking to me. Like you, I loved Mass Effect 1-3. One of my favorites series of games of all time.
Durrzerker
Banned
I'm not saying this excuses quality issues but I think something people need to remember going into this is that it is made by the multiplayer Team from Mass Effect 3. It really shows in how good the Combat gameplay and animations are and yet how janky they are in conversations.
These guys don't have any experience doing conversations or facial animation while they have a lot doing combat. Again this doesn't excuse and it doesn't invalidate people's issues but I was not surprised going into it because I saw this happening
These guys don't have any experience doing conversations or facial animation while they have a lot doing combat. Again this doesn't excuse and it doesn't invalidate people's issues but I was not surprised going into it because I saw this happening
When you arrive on the "not Citadel"? Yeah, that was bad. I also saw an enemy transport fly away through one of the big alien pylons.
True enough. The traversal and combat animations are snappy and look great.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Wait, you mean you cancelled your pre-order for this game so you could buy Persona 5, right? Can't fathom being unsure of P5, and your post almost seemed like the opposite of what I think you mean.
Lol, sure, it's tonally the perfect thing to say when the success of an incredibly important 600-year initiative riding on the ground efforts of the best team of human explorers we have, irreplaceable people who have no doubt been through rigorous physical and mental training for all sorts of worst case scenarios, is being complicated by first contact with a brand new race of intelligent spacefaring beings.
Screw diplomacy or any and all chances of sharing technology and boosting our survival rate in this new galaxy because they killed one practically nameless crew member during what literally might've been an isolated misunderstanding. I'm fired up and gonna kick their faces in!
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Yeah, haha. Oh well.
Lol, sure, it's tonally the perfect thing to say when the success of an incredibly important 600-year initiative riding on the ground efforts of the best team of human explorers we have, irreplaceable people who have no doubt been through rigorous physical and mental training for all sorts of worst case scenarios, is being complicated by first contact with a brand new race of intelligent spacefaring beings.
Screw diplomacy or any and all chances of sharing technology and boosting our survival rate in this new galaxy because they killed one practically nameless crew member during what literally might've been an isolated misunderstanding. I'm fired up and gonna kick their faces in!
I can see where you're coming from. I just see it as a funny quip meant to be fun.
That's why I stay in the middle. Only disappointed by the truly terrible.
After playing the trial it's not hard to see where Walker is coming from.
The presentation of the game is downright terrible. It's going to need a good few patches to bring it up to standard. If they even will.
The combat is fun, no faults there.
The game can look beautiful at times (landscapes) and downright ugly as fuck (every scene containing humans with their helmets off).
Also weird is the game can't properly render the afro hairstyle, why even offer it if it's going to flicker and look like buggy shit?
It's a game I'll pick up near the end of the year when some much needed patches have been released.
The presentation of the game is downright terrible. It's going to need a good few patches to bring it up to standard. If they even will.
The combat is fun, no faults there.
The game can look beautiful at times (landscapes) and downright ugly as fuck (every scene containing humans with their helmets off).
Also weird is the game can't properly render the afro hairstyle, why even offer it if it's going to flicker and look like buggy shit?
It's a game I'll pick up near the end of the year when some much needed patches have been released.
I've been considering this, but I mean, no game really gets this kind of a revamp or rewrite. I don't see how patches are gonna help with animation or VA
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Is the pop in consistently bad like this? Look at the simple shrubs just coming into existence a mere several feet away:
I have seen a lot of scenes where lighting and textures just pop into view. Pop in is not uncommon in games, but it seems especially bad in this.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Sorry, my face is tired after...everything. Maybe is fine like you say.
I'm hoping for patches that'll at least fix the terrible lip synching, the little but high quantity graphical defects such as halos around all the character outlines, horrible faces, the terrible camera angles during conversations that just highlight how bad the faces and lip synching are.
I don't expect them to fix everything but they need to do something to fix the crazy amount of jankiness. The jank is on the same level as something like Risen 2. It's pulling me out of the game constantly because it's so distracting.
I don't expect them to fix everything but they need to do something to fix the crazy amount of jankiness. The jank is on the same level as something like Risen 2. It's pulling me out of the game constantly because it's so distracting.
Drillary Clinton
Banned
Glad most of the impressions have been positive but it's good to hear some of the negatives being pointed out. I'm still gonna play this but after the footage that's been going around here for the last month or so I'm gonna be cautiously optimistic.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
So when I saw this yesterday I didn't think anything of it and really just wanted to play the damn trial. Which I now did. Finished the insanely brief main quest and the few side quests. Did all there was to do on the Tempest and Nexus and Eos and I don't really feel anything. It really didn't convince me at all and this preview really sounds concerning especially in regards to side quests.
Gabriel_Logan
Member
RPS posted a follow-up article with more initial observations. It's not entirely negative, but man does it turn me off from playing the game.
The problem is certain quotes that feel like unintentionally damning with faint praise:
"I certainly don't think what I've played of MEA is a disaster..."
"...there are only a handful of writing/acting disasters (so far)..."
"...I have struggled to care about anyone"
And others. Most of the praise is for moments of technical brilliance. Everything else is uneven or just okay.
But have a read yourself for a complete breakdown and context:
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/03/16/mass-effect-andromeda-problems/#more-435451
The problem is certain quotes that feel like unintentionally damning with faint praise:
"I certainly don't think what I've played of MEA is a disaster..."
"...there are only a handful of writing/acting disasters (so far)..."
"...I have struggled to care about anyone"
And others. Most of the praise is for moments of technical brilliance. Everything else is uneven or just okay.
But have a read yourself for a complete breakdown and context:
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/03/16/mass-effect-andromeda-problems/#more-435451
That looks absolutely horrible - on a level that might actually diminish the joy of the game. Wow. Just awful.
Exposition is hard.
NoPiece
Member
Overall, this article is actually more brutal than Walker's, which could be dismissed as hyperbolic.
This part bums me out because it's what I disliked most about DAI.
Totally agree, and none of the ME games have been great at it. Though Bioware showed some aptitude for it in Dragon Age Origins, doing it well not just once, but multiple times.
Another well backed up write-up that uses more measured language and written by someone not named John Walker, yet it actually sounds more scathing. The more I kept reading, the worse it got.
Damn. But hey, look at this MP gif guys! That's what you want from Bioware games!
SirPinkyNose
Member
In which Mass Effect intellectual curiosity is not solved with shooting your weapons?
The writer seems to miss that the problem with DAI's MMO structure is not the loot system, nor crafting. It's the massive amount of fetch quest which make you feel more like an errant boy than a hero.
The writer seems to miss that the problem with DAI's MMO structure is not the loot system, nor crafting. It's the massive amount of fetch quest which make you feel more like an errant boy than a hero.
Ragnar Blackmane
Member
Well, good thing they took the power wheel away too that actually made AI squaddies useful, sigh.
Playing through Binary Domain right now makes me appreciate being able to give orders (which particularly in the case of the Charge command has a big impact too), having solid squad AI and squadmates that can efficiently kill at least standard enemies.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Yeah, I'm done.
Will wait for Origin Access
Triggerhappytel
Member
I mean, before apologising perhaps we should wait until it's actually released and see what the critical & consumer consensus is? A lot of people playing it on EA Access seem to be enjoying it after the slow first couple of hours.
Did you read the full article or are you just responding to the excerpts we are sharing?
He doesn't say "intellectual curiosity is solved by shooting" instead of some other way. I'm not sure that statement even makes sense. He's making a point about how the characters act and react to their surroundings, how is the mission structure of this new game in a new setting where the main character is tasked with exploring habitable planets and is not a military commander on a quest to end an urgent reaper threat, and why he believes it is designed one way and not another due to market realities. Details you might have picked up on have you read the whole thing. If you did read it, then you probably should again, carefully this time.
Yea see this is what I was most worried about prior to this whole shitstorm so it really really sucks that not only is this the case but it's just the cherry on top of a colossal shit sundae at this point. Ugh.