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[Yerd]

How do they still operate and make money??

Selling to old fucks who still somehow buy periodicals and play video games. Pretentious twats who probably feel better about themselves for reading a physical medium over online stuff.

I would probably fall into that category, but the internet won me over. I used to buy Next Gen when it was around, but I stopped caring when the internet could get all the info faster. I think next gen was the last physical magazine I bought. Then I eventually stopped caring what reviewers thought and made my own decisions.

Wut? They censored the movie?

Pretty sure that's the TV edit. You can't have big words on tv.

 

[Elder Legend]

Recruitment ads, plus an Edge cover is worth a lot of money. It was always the only truly prestigious games mag, and I guess it still is by default. They don't report their circulation any more, but in my day it was consistently 27K. For any other mag that would be cripplingly low, but Edge was the one that everyone in the industry read.

27K what? viewers per month? or 27K dollars a month?

 

[calistan]

27K what? viewers per month? or 27K dollars a month?

Circulation, i.e. copies sold. For comparison, in that era the biggest selling games mag in the UK was the Official PlayStation one, which was generally 150K-200K in the PS2 days and peaked at 450K on PS1. Anything over 60K was a good result, so Edge was generally well below that level but it carried a lot of weight with the people who mattered.

 

[YCoCg]

Wut? They censored the movie?

yes

All the eras of history and I had to live in the age of mental retardation.

...you guys just want to be reactionary without the facts now don't you?

This is an on set photo, the sign he wore for filming said that and it was edited in post to change everyone to the n-word. However for the TV edit of the movie, that's in 1996, 27 years ago, they used the original unedited version of this scene.

Seriously any Die Hard fan knows this.

 

[Elder Legend]

Circulation, i.e. copies sold. For comparison, in that era the biggest selling games mag in the UK was the Official PlayStation one, which was generally 150K-200K in the PS2 days and peaked at 450K on PS1. Anything over 60K was a good result, so Edge was generally well below that level but it carried a lot of weight with the people who mattered.

I dint understand how in this day and age people would continue to pay for such things. With YouTuhe you have access to some of the highest quality content at basically 0 cost. You are only paying for internet access, that's it.

 

[JimboJones]

Nintendo games that Edge scored below the metacritic average

Game	Metacritic	Edge
KirbyAirRide	61	3
PokemonMysteryDungeon:ExplorersofDarkness	59	3
Yoshi'sNewIsland	64	4
MarioPinballLand	62	4
MarioGolfSuperRush	70	4
Excitebots:TrickRacing	77	4
WiiParty	68	5
PokemonRumble	59	4
MarioParty8	62	4
Wario:MasterofDisguise	60	4
MarioKartDoubleDash	87	5
MarioStrikers:BattleLeague	73	5
FamicomDetectiveClub	74	5
WiiPartyU	65	5
BattalionWars2	75	5
CustomRobo655	65	5
F-ZeroGPLegend	77	5
DK:KingofSwing	70	5
MarioPowerTennis	80	5
Dillon'sRollingWestern	65	5
DetectivePikachu	71	6
WarioLand:ShakeIt!	78	6
NESRemix	71	6
PokkenTournament	76	6
MarioTennisAces	75	6
GoldenSun:TheLostAge	86	6
Yoshi'sWoollyWorld	78	6
PilotwingsResort	71	6
MarioStrikersCharged	79	6
TheLegendofZelda:TriForceHeroes	73	6
Metroid:SamusReturns	85	6
SuperPrincessPeach	75	6
MarioGolf: WorldTour	78	6
MarioSuperstarBaseball	76	6
WiiSportsResort	80	6
Poochy&Yoshi'sWoollyWorld	77	6
Nintendogs	83	7
Mario&Luigi: DreamTeam	81	7
Luigi'sMansion3	86	7
Kirby: CanvasCurse	86	7
NewSuperLuigiU	77	6
MarioKartWii	82	6
Mario&Luigi: PartnersinTime	86	7
Splatoon3	83	7
XenobladeChronicles2	83	7
Mariovs.DonkeyKong	81	7
DonkeyKongCountryReturns	87	7
NewSuperMarioBros.Wii	87	7
Pokemon:Let'sGo,Eevee!Pikachu!	80	7
DonkeyKongCountry:TropicalFreeze	83	7
PokemonPinball:Ruby&Sapphire	81	7
FireEmblemWarriors:ThreeHopes	80	7
PokemonShield/Sword	80	7
PokemonLegends:Arceus	83	7
Mariovs.DonkeyKong:MinisMarchAgain!	82	7
BatenKaitos:EternalWingsandtheLostOcean	80	7
Kirby:TripleDeluxe	80	7
XenobladeChroniclesX	84	7
SuperPaperMario	85	7
CaptainToad:TreasureTracker	81	7
FireEmblemEngage	80	7
Pikmin4	87	7
WarioWare,Inc.:MegaMicrogame$!	89	7
MetroidPrime3:Corruption	90	7
Mario&Luigi: SuperstarSaga	90	8
MetroidPrimeTrilogy	91	8
Pikmin2	90	8
AdvanceWars: DualStrike	90	8
MarioKartDS	91	8
SuperSmashBros.forWiiU	92	8
SuperMario3DLand	90	8

Games that Edge score above the Metacritic average

Game	Metacritic	Edge
KirbyandtheRainbowCurse	73	8
1080:Avalanche	73	8
YoshiTouch&Go	73	8
Electroplankton	71	8
PaperMario:StickerStar	75	8
NintendoSwitchSports	72	8
AstralChain	87	9
MarioKart7	85	9
Mario+Rabbids:KingdomBattle	85	9
SuperMarioMaker	88	9
AnimalCrossing:NewLeaf	88	9
FireEmblemFates:SpecialEdition	88	9
Splatoon	81	9
Arms	77	9
TheLegendofZelda:TearsoftheKingdom	96	10
SuperMarioOdyssey	97	10
TheLegendofZelda:BreathoftheWild	97	10
SkywardSword	93	10
SuperMarioGalaxy2	97	10
TheLegendofZelda:FourSwordsAdventures	86	9
MarioKart8	88	9

Other nintendo games Edge reviewed aligned with metacritic average.

The bias is real!

 

[zeldaring]

Nintendo games that Edge scored below the metacritic average

Game	Metacritic	Edge
KirbyAirRide	61	3
PokemonMysteryDungeon:ExplorersofDarkness	59	3
Yoshi'sNewIsland	64	4
MarioPinballLand	62	4
MarioGolfSuperRush	70	4
Excitebots:TrickRacing	77	4
WiiParty	68	5
PokemonRumble	59	4
MarioParty8	62	4
Wario:MasterofDisguise	60	4
MarioKartDoubleDash	87	5
MarioStrikers:BattleLeague	73	5
FamicomDetectiveClub	74	5
WiiPartyU	65	5
BattalionWars2	75	5
CustomRobo655	65	5
F-ZeroGPLegend	77	5
DK:KingofSwing	70	5
MarioPowerTennis	80	5
Dillon'sRollingWestern	65	5
DetectivePikachu	71	6
WarioLand:ShakeIt!	78	6
NESRemix	71	6
PokkenTournament	76	6
MarioTennisAces	75	6
GoldenSun:TheLostAge	86	6
Yoshi'sWoollyWorld	78	6
PilotwingsResort	71	6
MarioStrikersCharged	79	6
TheLegendofZelda:TriForceHeroes	73	6
Metroid:SamusReturns	85	6
SuperPrincessPeach	75	6
MarioGolf: WorldTour	78	6
MarioSuperstarBaseball	76	6
WiiSportsResort	80	6
Poochy&Yoshi'sWoollyWorld	77	6
Nintendogs	83	7
Mario&Luigi: DreamTeam	81	7
Luigi'sMansion3	86	7
Kirby: CanvasCurse	86	7
NewSuperLuigiU	77	6
MarioKartWii	82	6
Mario&Luigi: PartnersinTime	86	7
Splatoon3	83	7
XenobladeChronicles2	83	7
Mariovs.DonkeyKong	81	7
DonkeyKongCountryReturns	87	7
NewSuperMarioBros.Wii	87	7
Pokemon:Let'sGo,Eevee!Pikachu!	80	7
DonkeyKongCountry:TropicalFreeze	83	7
PokemonPinball:Ruby&Sapphire	81	7
FireEmblemWarriors:ThreeHopes	80	7
PokemonShield/Sword	80	7
PokemonLegends:Arceus	83	7
Mariovs.DonkeyKong:MinisMarchAgain!	82	7
BatenKaitos:EternalWingsandtheLostOcean	80	7
Kirby:TripleDeluxe	80	7
XenobladeChroniclesX	84	7
SuperPaperMario	85	7
CaptainToad:TreasureTracker	81	7
FireEmblemEngage	80	7
Pikmin4	87	7
WarioWare,Inc.:MegaMicrogame$!	89	7
MetroidPrime3:Corruption	90	7
Mario&Luigi: SuperstarSaga	90	8
MetroidPrimeTrilogy	91	8
Pikmin2	90	8
AdvanceWars: DualStrike	90	8
MarioKartDS	91	8
SuperSmashBros.forWiiU	92	8
SuperMario3DLand	90	8

Games that Edge score above the Metacritic average

Game	Metacritic	Edge
KirbyandtheRainbowCurse	73	8
1080:Avalanche	73	8
YoshiTouch&Go	73	8
Electroplankton	71	8
PaperMario:StickerStar	75	8
NintendoSwitchSports	72	8
AstralChain	87	9
MarioKart7	85	9
Mario+Rabbids:KingdomBattle	85	9
SuperMarioMaker	88	9
AnimalCrossing:NewLeaf	88	9
FireEmblemFates:SpecialEdition	88	9
Splatoon	81	9
Arms	77	9
TheLegendofZelda:TearsoftheKingdom	96	10
SuperMarioOdyssey	97	10
TheLegendofZelda:BreathoftheWild	97	10
SkywardSword	93	10
SuperMarioGalaxy2	97	10
TheLegendofZelda:FourSwordsAdventures	90	86
MarioKart8	88	9

Other nintendo games Edge reviewed aligned with metacritic average.

The bias is real!

Well we are talking about The last 10 years for the most part, they prefer Nintendo games more then any other outlet.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Remnant score a bit high

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

Recruitment ads…

They don’t do those anymore.

You get adverts now for Go Compare - but Future owns that too.

 

[calistan]

They don’t do those anymore.

You get adverts now for Go Compare - but Future owns that too.

Sounds like they're keeping it going for the cachet - most other mags closed years ago but Edge is their halo product. Ads for Future products represent a page that their ad manager couldn't sell. We'd set aside X page each month, and if the ads person failed to sell them then we'd ask around the other mags for a house ad, which brings in zero revenue.

 

[Labadal]

Shadow Gambit is most likely worth the 8.

The studio developed Shadow Tactics, which I like. It sits at 96% user score on Steam.

The studio developed Desperados III, which I like. It sits at 96% user score on Steam.

Shadow Gambit is in the same genre as the two games mentioned above.

 

[Bakkus]

Surprised usually anything Nintendo is a 9 or 10

Not to mention that Pikmin 4 is one of the best Nintendo games ever...

 

[Fuz]

Shadow Gambit is most likely worth the 8.

The studio developed Shadow Tactics, which I like. It sits at 96% user score on Steam.

The studio developed Desperados III, which I like. It sits at 96% user score on Steam.

Shadow Gambit is in the same genre as the two games mentioned above.

Yeah, Shadow Tactics was amazing. Really a terrible timeframe to release Shadow Gambit, though. I feel Baldur's Gate 3 will eat most of its exposure and sales.

 

[RagnarokIV]

They're using the full scale of the scoring system instead of operating on 8-10 only. I think that's a great thing.

 

[64bitbros]

Remnant 2 a 6....lol ok.

This is why I don't trust most outlets and magazines. God only knows the person reviewing it has barely ever played a game before or is just starting out.

Trusting individual reviews is way more accurate. Karak (ACG), Skill Up, FextraLife have all been very good with their recommendations and I trust their opinions.

To put that in perspective, they gave the broken mess that is Redfall a 6. Its so inconsistent its not even funny.

 

[calistan]

To put that in perspective, they gave the broken mess that is Redfall a 6. Its so inconsistent its not even funny.

Grand Theft Auto III got a 6.

 

[Yerd]

To put that in perspective, they gave the broken mess that is Redfall a 6. Its so inconsistent its not even funny.

According to guy above, a 6 is a very good score. Which means Redfall is a very good game to them.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You'd think we'd be used to these Edge threads by now.

Cowards still never reviewed Hogwarts Legacy. For that alone, they should go the way of the dodo.

 

[Dr. Suchong]

You'd think we'd be used to these Edge threads by now.

Cowards still never reviewed Hogwarts Legacy. For that alone, they should go the way of the dodo.

It's definitely not the same anymore.
I find myself rolling my eyes pretty often with the amount of sneering woke-isms, shoehorned in where they're definitely not needed.
You're dead right about Hogwarts Legacy.
I'd of had a sliver of respect if they'd at least explained their decision/stance on the matter.
At least stand by your obvious insinuation that "Jk is a Transphobe/Terf!" nonsense.

 

[March Climber]

I still glance at their opinions though and I find them worthwhile most of the time.

And this is why the best way to view Edge is to look at any lesser known/unknown game that they give a score of 7 or above and take it as a recommendation to at least check it out.

That's more productive and people will feel better doing that than doing the alternative of getting upset every month that they didn't score a game around the average range of other reviewers, as some form of validation.

 

[Mr.ODST]

Remnant 2 a 6? wtf

 

[Freeman76]

I actually like their review system, about the only publication that actually uses scoring properly. 5 doesnt mean its a steaming pile of dogwank, its an average game. Most ppl dont like it cos they were raised on hyperbole

 

[Yerd]

It's like we have different numbers or something.

Most people understand a scale from 1 - 10.

When you rate your sexually desired creature (This scoring system of 1 - 10 probably got it's wings this way)of any gender, a 5 is a dog. A 6 is barely better than a 5. A 7 you can be seen in public without embarrassment.


Now I'm only coming into this conversation in passing. I have never read Edge. I have no idea how they explain their scoring system. But, based on comments here, it seems like their system is wildly different than anyone else that uses the same numbers. I was amused when someone said a 6 is a very good score.

 

[zeldaring]

It's like we have different numbers or something.

Most people understand a scale from 1 - 10.

When you rate your sexually desired creature (This scoring system of 1 - 10 probably got it's wings this way)of any gender, a 5 is a dog. A 6 is barely better than a 5. A 7 you can be seen in public without embarrassment.


Now I'm only coming into this conversation in passing. I have never read Edge. I have no idea how they explain their scoring system. But, based on comments here, it seems like their system is wildly different than anyone else that uses the same numbers. I was amused when someone said a 6 is a very good score.

lol that's just their fans defending the scoring system because their tastes are similar.

 

[March Climber]

It's like we have different numbers or something.

Most people understand a scale from 1 - 10.

When you rate your sexually desired creature (This scoring system of 1 - 10 probably got it's wings this way)of any gender, a 5 is a dog. A 6 is barely better than a 5. A 7 you can be seen in public without embarrassment.


Now I'm only coming into this conversation in passing. I have never read Edge. I have no idea how they explain their scoring system. But, based on comments here, it seems like their system is wildly different than anyone else that uses the same numbers. I was amused when someone said a 6 is a very good score.

It's because they both 1) use the full scale and 2) are highly opinionated. Based on your description of the scoring system, anything under 6 might as well be in one big bracket. When someone tells me what you've just stated, it means that the scoring system should not even bother having a 1-5 and should instead switch to a 5-star rating system.

Whenever I review a game on this forum I prefer using letter grades, because those are the easiest to communicate. A 5/10 will always 'appear' worse to more people than 3/5 stars. And 3/5 stars will usually appear worse to more people than seeing a 'C' letter grade.

I don't want to chalk this up to just Edge, because in the 90s GameFan and Gamepro used to be extremely critical of games too, and I'm sure if social media were more present back then, those two would be the ones getting the most flak along with Edge. GamePro's iconography had solved this 5/10 and 3/5 problem long ago by using distinct icons to express what the score meant.

Growing up I distinctly remember seeing the yellow/green smiling face way more often than the orange or red, but there are people here who would try and convince you otherwise and will champion older games that were just seen as an alright 3/5 title back then. And that's ok because 3/5 didn't mean bad.

 

[Muffdraul]

Remnant II a 6, but Exoprimal a 7?

Lol.

I know, I'd give them each a 5.

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

Sounds like they're keeping it going for the cachet - most other mags closed years ago but Edge is their halo product. Ads for Future products represent a page that their ad manager couldn't sell. We'd set aside X page each month, and if the ads person failed to sell them then we'd ask around the other mags for a house ad, which brings in zero revenue.

Very true. Most peeps said Games TM was better than EDGE and I'd be inclined to agree - but as I've said a hundred times, Future took over Imagine and shut down Games TM - kill your heroes or something like that.

 

[phant0m]

It's definitely not the same anymore.
I find myself rolling my eyes pretty often with the amount of sneering woke-isms, shoehorned in where they're definitely not needed.
You're dead right about Hogwarts Legacy.
I'd of had a sliver of respect if they'd at least explained their decision/stance on the matter.
At least stand by your obvious insinuation that "Jk is a Transphobe/Terf!" nonsense.

written gaming journalism as a whole is just a lost cause at this point imo. it used to be people that has been playing SNES since they were 8 and had a passion for the medium as a whole, its history, and progression. they didn't have a social media following, they just loved video games.

now its filled with people that care more about imparting their sociopolitical beliefs in relation to that medium. their "unique slant" is how does this game serve the LGBTQ+ community? how does it related to the me too movment & BLM? no published (like, an editor looked it over and greenlit) piece exemplifies this more than WIRED's review of Hogwarts. 1/10. I won't be linking it to give them any hits. It was played by someone that very obviously played the game for no more than an hour (if at all), but was not there to give the game a fair assessment in any shape or form. Just wanted to absolutely blast it because they dislike the IP's originator.

but whatever, it's fine. reviews have evolved from a written format into a video one, and there are multiple YT reviewers that actually still assess games from a gamer's point of view, not twitter's.

 

[spons]

They still make gaming magazines?

It's not even the oldest currently active magazine.

 

[German Hops]

It's not even the oldest currently active magazine.

Wait, EGM and GamePro are still around?

 

[spons]

Wait, EGM and GamePro are still around?

Nah, but there's non-English stuff older than EDGE, such as Famitsu and Power Unlimited (lol).

 

[calistan]

Very true. Most peeps said Games TM was better than EDGE and I'd be inclined to agree - but as I've said a hundred times, Future took over Imagine and shut down Games TM - kill your heroes or something like that.

Most people? Games TM was little more than a piss-poor Edge impersonator, and despite being pitched more at the mass market it sold a lot less than the real thing.

Also, just look at it (not that you can, since it's long dead, but maybe search for a few scans). Whatever people think of Edge's review scores and pretentiousness, it has always had extremely talented designers. The covers in particular benefit from that, plus the lack of pressure to sell via coverlines.

 

[Yerd]

It's because they both 1) use the full scale and 2) are highly opinionated. Based on your description of the scoring system, anything under 6 might as well be in one big bracket. When someone tells me what you've just stated, it means that the scoring system should not even bother having a 1-5 and should instead switch to a 5-star rating system.

Whenever I review a game on this forum I prefer using letter grades, because those are the easiest to communicate. A 5/10 will always 'appear' worse to more people than 3/5 stars. And 3/5 stars will usually appear worse to more people than seeing a 'C' letter grade.

I don't want to chalk this up to just Edge, because in the 90s GameFan and Gamepro used to be extremely critical of games too, and I'm sure if social media were more present back then, those two would be the ones getting the most flak along with Edge. GamePro's iconography had solved this 5/10 and 3/5 problem long ago by using distinct icons to express what the score meant.


Growing up I distinctly remember seeing the yellow/green smiling face way more often than the orange or red, but there are people here who would try and convince you otherwise and will champion older games that were just seen as an alright 3/5 title back then. And that's ok because 3/5 didn't mean bad.

That gamepro scale is exactly the same as 1-10.

I have no problem playing games that are probably ranked a 5. There is some fun to be had, but any lower is a real shaky situation and it's a waste of money. You need to know games in the turd list, so you don't waste any money. For me, I'm not going for anything under a 5, unless there is something deeply in my hit list. I love metroidvanias and I will try out some turds. A lot of times games will be reviewed poorly because of performance problems, which doesn't affect me terribly. Are people really excited for an Edge reviewed game ranked 1-4? That score is a bad score which equates to a bad game.

I don't read media reviews. I take a look at games and can pretty much know if I will like it or not. I glance at scores on metacritic for a game that interests me. I will look at something that I haven't heard of because it has a high score and avoid the lows. There are an endless supply of games and missing a gem isn't that big a deal. If I see a big to do about a game I avoided, it will be on sale and I'll buy it, maybe.

I mostly play games on PC, so a game that is on steam you can read the positive and negative reviews. I will read the negatives to get an idea what is bad about it. The video will usually show me all the positives. I stopped reading reviews for console games. On playstation I only play the exclusives and those are almost never a waste of money. Though I still don't buy them until they are discounted, and lately I am trying to hold out for hopes that they are on PC.

 

[ByWatterson]

It's August.

 

[Hero_Select]

Surprised usually anything Nintendo is a 9 or 10

The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom – 10
Kirby’s Return To Dream Land Deluxe – 7
Fire Emblem Engage – 7
Pokemon Scarlet / Violet – 7
Splatoon 3 – 7
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 – 8
Bayonetta 3 – 9
Mario Strikers: Battle League – 5
Nintendo Switch Sports – 8

So many 9's and 10's

 

[Walter Matthau]

Surprised usually anything Nintendo is a 9 or 10

Edge has given 1 Nintendo game a 10 in the last 5 years.

I don’t recall them being generous with 9’s either.

You might be confusing them with another magazine.

 

[zeldaring]

Edge has given 1 Nintendo game a 10 in the last 5 years.

I don’t recall them being generous with 9’s either.

You might be confusing them with another magazine.

Most of the reviews since for the last decade have been around Metracritic average or higher for Nintendo games while almost every other developer gets shit on. honestly looking at the reviews now its seems like they have a huge bias to some franchises and hate most other AAA games. Nintendo, and fromsoftware big games are usually scoring 9's or 10s. then you have game that ran horrible bayonetta 2 wiiu and 3 getting 9s and 10s.

 

[Punished Miku]

then you have game that ran horrible bayonetta 2 wiiu and 3 getting 9s and 10s.

Like I tried to tell you, I don't think they care that much about high production values.

The score for Bayonetta 3 is because of how original and unique the Demon Slave system is. It's never been done before. Imagine the scripted FFXVI battles when you "control" a summon, only you can do that at any point in the game and they have in depth movesets that mix in with the normal player character. It's on a totally different level. And it's not even made by Nintendo.

 

[zeldaring]

Like I tried to tell you, I don't think they care that much about high production values.

The score for Bayonetta 3 is because of how original and unique the Demon Slave system is. It's never been done before. Imagine the scripted FFXVI battles when you "control" a summon, only you can do that at any point in the game and they have in depth movesets that mix in with the normal player character. It's on a totally different level. And it's not even made by Nintendo.

They gave bayonetta 2 a 10 though lol. don't really care why they gave bayonetta 3 a 9 its just if you gonna be picky on most games then be consistent.

 

[Punished Miku]

They gave bayonetta 2 a 10 though lol. don't really care why they gave bayonetta 3 a 9 its just if you gonna be picky on most games then be consistent.

I gave it a 10 as well and felt it was robbed that year for GOTY . The whole game is bananas. I'm still shocked Dragon Age Inquisition won at most outlets that year.

I had no idea anyone thought differently about Bayonetta 2 until years later and now I hear lots of people trashing it, mostly on here.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Supernatural just means more options for advanced tactics. Theyve never done it so Im excited for it.

Yes it could mean more options, but it's also much harder to balance the game so that single characters and abilities aren't too op. And they've already made that mistake with Isabelle's entire skillset in Desperados 3.

 

[zeldaring]

I gave it a 10 as well and felt it was robbed that year for GOTY . The whole game is bananas. I'm still shocked Dragon Age Inquisition won at most outlets that year.

I had no idea anyone thought differently about Bayonetta 2 until years later and now I hear lots of people trashing it, mostly on here.

I'm not a fan, and no action game that runs like crap deserves even a 9 imo. I vastly prefer ninja gaiden, GOW, and darks souls style of combat then games where you just basically just pulling off combos, and the enemies are not aggressive like DMC, FF16, and bayonetta.

 

[Punished Miku]

I'm not a fan, and no action game that runs like crap deserves even a 9 imo. I vastly prefer ninja gaiden, GOW, and darks souls style of combat then games where you just basically just pulling off combos, and the enemies are not aggressive like DMC, FF16, and bayonetta.

I vastly prefer Ninja Gaiden, so we have that in common. Always have. But for some reason, I was blown away by Bayonetta 2. I need to revisit it since its been 9 years. I always viewed it as more of a casual spectacle fighter with depth. Reminds me of the pure bombastic fun you can find in many older arcade games. Ninja Gaiden is a totally different thing.

 

[zeldaring]

I vastly prefer Ninja Gaiden, so we have that in common. Always have. But for some reason, I was blown away by Bayonetta 2. I need to revisit it since its been 9 years. I always viewed it as more of a casual spectacle fighter with depth. Reminds me of the pure bombastic fun you can find in many older arcade games. Ninja Gaiden is a totally different thing.

Keep in mind it was the wiiu version the scored a 10, and ran around 40-60fos and that just doesn't feel good for. a fast paced acton game.

 

[Punished Miku]

Keep in mind it was the wiiu version the scored a 10, and ran around 40-60fos and that just doesn't feel good for. a fast paced acton game.

I'm aware. It was a Wii U exclusive. I don't think they mark games down for things like production values.

Destructoid also gave it a 10 and it was one of the main guys I trust on action games.

 

[zeldaring]

I'm aware. It was a Wii U exclusive. I don't think they mark games down for things like production values.

Destructoid also gave it a 10 and it was one of the main guys I trust on action games.

That's not really production values when the game is running like shit. That's just bad performance which effects gameplay.

 

[Sojiro]

Not to mention that Pikmin 4 is one of the best Nintendo games ever...

Lol yeah, I am over here all grumpy because they scored it a 7! It is what it is though, Pikmin 4 is fucking phenomenal though, pick this game up people!

 

[Punished Miku]

pick this game up people!

Just did yesterday

 

[Walter Matthau]

Keep in mind it was the wiiu version the scored a 10, and ran around 40-60fos and that just doesn't feel good for. a fast paced acton game.

Bayonetta 2 was GotY on the forum you're currently posting on and has a 91 on metacritic for the Wii U version with quite a few perfect or near perfect scores. Polygon scored it lower because they felt it was over-sexualized, not due to frame dips.

 

[zeldaring]

Bayonetta 2 was GotY on the forum you're currently posting on and has a 91 on metacritic for the Wii U version with quite a few perfect or near perfect scores. Polygon scored it lower because they felt it was over-sexualized, not due to frame dips.

ok that's nice do you know whey gave the GOTY here for 2020 a 6 lol. like i said they are constantly shitting on games that people love so if they gonna be picky be consistent. Action game thats all about action running at 40-60fps doesn't deserve a 10.