Y'know, I'd love to give my opinions of this game...
If Sony would fucking send me the alpha.
Oh man, i feel sincerely sorry, thought you were in!
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[EU] Bloodborne Alpha Test
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Oh man, i feel sincerely sorry, thought you were in!
SolidSnakex
Member
Customization is still in just like the Souls games. They just have you select preset characters for demos/alphas/betas.
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Well, there's always the beta. I'm sure that will be open.Y'know, I'd love to give my opinions of this game...
If Sony would fucking send me the alpha.
ShinobiFist
Banned
Nice! I was worry about that. Thanks for the info
Wow, no wonder so many people have problems with the Soul series. This guy swings wildly at every enemy he encounters.
AlexisBrennt
Neo Member
Hey, played it just yesterday and loved every minute of it. But I forgot to test the "Foul Pill" or how it was called. Anyone knows what that item does? If not I will try it tomorrow.
I hate the elitistic "fking scrusb l2play" mentality a part of the Souls fandom seems to have but even I have to say, it was kind of painful to watch that lol
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Deleted member 125677
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Yeah, the only negative I pick up from the impression is this. FROM really sucks at maintaining decent frame rates in their console games.
But if they can get the final build to hold a locked 30, I guess that'll do. It's not like it's coming to PC anyway
onimushroom
Member
It seemed to be the faster stamina recovery consumable (with the usual sound effect and a green aura).
AlexisBrennt
Neo Member
Thanks for the info.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
One of the best thing I've seen are the combos you can pull of with transforming weapons. You can transform you're weapon mid combo, or mid roll as well.....man pvp is going to insane
I'll say this: 30 FPS is the maximum I encountered. But I have played segments in sub-20 FPS that were shown in recent official videos with 30 FPS, so I'm not concerned. It's obviously an old build and not really good for technical analysis since so much can change until February.
Dwight Schrute
Member
Wait, so multiplayer is kinda like Journey / Destiny ? People get into your game without you having to summon them ?
Seriously i can't stress it enough, a solid framerate (at least 30FPS) is sooo important especially for a game where you can die so fast.
I really really hope From Software gets it and listens to fan feedback because i'm pretty sure this will be the main complain about the alpha.
I really really hope From Software gets it and listens to fan feedback because i'm pretty sure this will be the main complain about the alpha.
Billy_Pilgrim
Member
This is a proper souls game, everything you love is still there. It's just been taken to the next level.
It is so unfathomably amazing and I'm ridiculously happy that it is what it is.
Summoning/being summoned is pretty seamless.
Oh, and it is still fairly hard. About as hard as Demon's Souls I'd say.
It is so unfathomably amazing and I'm ridiculously happy that it is what it is.
Summoning/being summoned is pretty seamless.
Oh, and it is still fairly hard. About as hard as Demon's Souls I'd say.
if people complain about it they obv arent meant to be playing the alpha.
all this is is a server stress test. your not meant to be playing it to go damn the framerates iffy. holy shit where the aa etc.
I think so! There was no text box or whatsoever. He just came running across the corner and I was baffled. Like I said, at first I thought it was a NPC, but then I realized the irregular movements and use of gestures. Later on I encountered a true NPC and they behave differently. I'm not sure if they'll keep it this way, but man did it feel natural and just right.
MGSV hype currently too strong breh.
I think they will - or have to - fix it. This is supposed to be played fast and I sometimes encountered input lag issues in those sub-20 FPS segments.
Billy_Pilgrim
Member
There seems to be a more limited inventory, what I could find was mapped to the touchpad.
There weren't any stats or item descriptions, it was only by
messing around with the bells
Oh, and if no one else has mentioned it those things on the ground with the little skeleton people reaching out are the messages/bloodstains.
Besides that 30FPS is still pretty bad even when locked down (it's 2014 on a nextgen console, 2nd console into HD gaming), I don't believe that they care. Why should they. Demons and Dark Souls had bad framerates and they got worse over the course of the series, not better. But the fan and media feedback as well as the sales got better and better. That leads to only one logical conclusion: Framerate does not matter in any context. Even with a bad framerate you can get:
- great fan feedback, with people praising graphics being MUCH more vocal than those caring for playablitiy and low latency
- great, amazing reviews, completly ignoring the playability with journalists who seemingly don't even know the concept of framerate and latency and how it impacts a gaming experience (no wonder, if they are gaming on console for the last decade only, how should they know)
- great sales
So why change anything? I know it's just an Alpha, but then again, it's a testatement to the design priorities of From Software. I would be very surprised if those change fundamentally. I expect the opposite: Even more eye candy, even worse framerates. Insomniac Games, a former fundamentalist when it came to 60FPS gaming (for reasons), decided to go sub 30FPS with their newest games, because they believe the added eye candy will net them more money. Expect others to follow, it works for From Software as well.
CyberPunked
Member
I don't like to say it, but I can genuinely see a visual downgrade to fix the FPS. The frame issues in DS2's network test weren't half as bad as this, and that game got a huge downgrade. I think From are just incompetent on a technical level.
AlphaDragoon
Member
I always laugh when I see people talking about how "this game is so different from anything in Souls combat, you have to know how to dodge" and all that because that's how I've played Souls games from day 1. No shield, l2dodge.
The best way to play the Souls games for sure
I dont think they're gonna downgrade. I mean, this game is the complete oposite of Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne got a big graphical upgrade coming from Project Beast. If they did that its because they were confident with it, if not they would just leave it as how P.B. looked.
That doesnt mean this game is going to be rock-solid 30 FPS, I dont think it will. Atleast I hope they can make it more stable in the final build.
Canis lupus
Member
I didn't participate in the DaS2 test but what I've played of Bloodborne so far says it has a better frame rate than DaS2 final game.
Probably a mix of both, people be mad jelly lolz.
You still have to summon people but when I did it there was no notification that they had joined my game. I rang the summoning bell and a minute or so later I saw someone ahead of me taking on a group of enemies.
CountAntonius
Member
I wonder if there will still be covenants. The whole pvp fascinates me. Co op implementation sounds really cool.
R_thanatos
Member
No you have to use a summonning bell to go to co-op.
However , if you don't THEN you'll see other people "ghosts" ( that are players playing in the same area as you at the same moment )
Fix The Scientist
Member
This is From though, they have a history of shocking framerate issues. I think it's understandable that people are concerned the framerate won't be much better in the final release.
If the TGS gameplay footage is anything to go by, the frame rate issues in the area have already been ironed out. On the other hand, I'd say that those weird things on the floor affects the frame rate, seeing as to how I saw the frame rate of a stream tank when the player got to an area where shitloads of those things were on the ground.
Quiet you
I think someone mentioned that the testers are able to discuss it with other alpha testers.
So yeah... anyone not in the alpha needs to stop reading this topic!
R_thanatos
Member
I'm not talking , just speaking out loud.
If by LUCK , other gaffers hear me , then it can't be helped.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Can someone that has played it tell me if this game would be suitable for non-souls fans? I really liked Demon's Souls but stopped playing after a few hours in 2010. Have not been able to get back into it.
This thread is getting me hyped for this game though
This thread is getting me hyped for this game though
AlexisBrennt
Neo Member
I think it's not so much about being a Souls fan than being ok with redoing stuff till you get it. Like dying over and over to the same enemy and then realize how to deal with it.
Here's a perfect run with twin warped blades. The guys is pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqN9c1kMTWk#t=57
I just love the Gothic setting. February can't come soon enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqN9c1kMTWk#t=57
I just love the Gothic setting. February can't come soon enough.
Dat cloth physics.
MoogleWizard
Member
I must have played a different Alpha or different Souls games because I have a hard time understanding sentiments like Souls combat is fun again or I could never play DS2 again, as expressed by several posters here. The lack of shields does make a difference but it is not that different that you could enjoy one but not the other (and if you're a good Souls player you know that dodging is much better than blocking anyway, only casuals use their shield all the time. Havel's set, heavy shield always raised, that's how you recognize a filthy Souls casual. ). This game might as well be called Blood Souls, it's a Souls game through and through and feels way too similar to really justify a different name imo. I also didn't notice any increased speed in the gameplay. I played a few minutes of DS2 after reading the Alpha impressions last night to see if I misremembered my time with that game but no, DS2 even felt a little faster, especially running and dodging. That is probably due to my light character build, but still Bloodborne didn't feel any faster to me.
Don't get me wrong, I'm only commenting on the comparisons to the Souls games. I loved what I played, it feels fresh (though not that much) and familiar at the same time, they struck a good balance, and it's a lot of fun.
As for the difficulty: after getting used to having no shield and to the weapon transformations, I found the game was a bit easier than the Souls games, mostly because damaging enemies heals you and the blood vials, this game's estus flasks, had a fairly high drop rate. The gameplay itself is still fairly challenging. Again, they struck a good balance here.
The area where I wish the game didn't feel like Souls is the frame rate. I played mostly Wii U games lately, most of which are 60fps, and going from that to sub 30fps with drops takes some getting used to. It was not very pleasant to my eyes. You'd think that with a much more powerful system you could expect games to have at least half the framerate and be stable. The game is not fast paced, it's not an over top action game with huge set pieces, it's on fairly powerful hardware, its exclusive, which should make optimization easier, so it's not that unreasonable to expect stable 30 fps. I didn't expect any better from DS2 because of the ancient hardware, but this is on the PS4. Come on, From, try a little harder.
I have some more minor complaints like the color palette, it wouldn't hurt to have a few more shades of color there. It was sometimes hard to see the grey enemies in front of the grey backgrounds.
Enemy AI seems a bit simple at times, aggro range is quite small.
The camera needs some work, it was my biggest enemy during the boss fight.
I also think I might miss magic a bit in the final release, for game that is almost 100% combat I'd like to have more options than just melee weapons to give me more variety in how I fight enemies. I always liked switching between magic and melee in Souls, so I hope I won't get bored of only having one of those options here. Call it alchemy and it would fit in the game world just fine with the medieval feel and the plague masks.
All in all, I greatly enjoyed it. Gameplay, atmosphere, music, art direction, graphics are all great. I'm sure the game will be amazing and I'm looking forward to playing it again. My only big gripe is the frame rate, I really hope they fix that. The rest are just minor nitpicks.
). This game might as well be called Blood Souls, it's a Souls game through and through and feels way too similar to really justify a different name imo. I also didn't notice any increased speed in the gameplay. I played a few minutes of DS2 after reading the Alpha impressions last night to see if I misremembered my time with that game but no, DS2 even felt a little faster, especially running and dodging. That is probably due to my light character build, but still Bloodborne didn't feel any faster to me.Don't get me wrong, I'm only commenting on the comparisons to the Souls games. I loved what I played, it feels fresh (though not that much) and familiar at the same time, they struck a good balance, and it's a lot of fun.
As for the difficulty: after getting used to having no shield and to the weapon transformations, I found the game was a bit easier than the Souls games, mostly because damaging enemies heals you and the blood vials, this game's estus flasks, had a fairly high drop rate. The gameplay itself is still fairly challenging. Again, they struck a good balance here.
The area where I wish the game didn't feel like Souls is the frame rate. I played mostly Wii U games lately, most of which are 60fps, and going from that to sub 30fps with drops takes some getting used to. It was not very pleasant to my eyes. You'd think that with a much more powerful system you could expect games to have at least half the framerate and be stable. The game is not fast paced, it's not an over top action game with huge set pieces, it's on fairly powerful hardware, its exclusive, which should make optimization easier, so it's not that unreasonable to expect stable 30 fps. I didn't expect any better from DS2 because of the ancient hardware, but this is on the PS4. Come on, From, try a little harder.
I have some more minor complaints like the color palette, it wouldn't hurt to have a few more shades of color there. It was sometimes hard to see the grey enemies in front of the grey backgrounds.
Enemy AI seems a bit simple at times, aggro range is quite small.
The camera needs some work, it was my biggest enemy during the boss fight.
I also think I might miss magic a bit in the final release, for game that is almost 100% combat I'd like to have more options than just melee weapons to give me more variety in how I fight enemies. I always liked switching between magic and melee in Souls, so I hope I won't get bored of only having one of those options here. Call it alchemy and it would fit in the game world just fine with the medieval feel and the plague masks.
All in all, I greatly enjoyed it. Gameplay, atmosphere, music, art direction, graphics are all great. I'm sure the game will be amazing and I'm looking forward to playing it again. My only big gripe is the frame rate, I really hope they fix that. The rest are just minor nitpicks.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I must have played a different Alpha or different Souls games because I have a hard time understanding sentiments like Souls combat is fun again or I could never play DS2 again, as expressed by several posters here. The lack of shields does make a difference but it is not that different that you could enjoy one but not the other (and if you're a good Souls player you know that dodging is much better than blocking anyway, only casuals use their shield all the time. Havel's set, heavy shield always raised, that's how you recognize a filthy Souls casual.
Don't get me wrong, I'm only commenting on the comparisons to the Souls games. I loved what I played, it feels fresh (though not that much) and familiar at the same time, they struck a good balance, and it's a lot of fun.
As for the difficulty: after getting used to having no shield and to the weapon transformations, I found the game was a bit easier than the Souls games, mostly because damaging enemies heals you and the blood vials, this game's estus flasks, had a fairly high drop rate. The gameplay itself is still fairly challenging. Again, they struck a good balance here.
The area where I wish the game didn't feel like Souls is the frame rate. I played mostly Wii U games lately, most of which are 60fps, and going from that to sub 30fps with drops takes some getting used to. It was not very pleasant to my eyes. You'd think that with a much more powerful system you could expect games to have at least half the framerate and be stable. The game is not fast paced, it's not an over top action game with huge set pieces, it's on fairly powerful hardware, its exclusive, which should make optimization easier, so it's not that unreasonable to expect stable 30 fps. I didn't expect any better from DS2 because of the ancient hardware, but this is on the PS4. Come on, From, try a little harder.
I have some more minor complaints like the color palette, it wouldn't hurt to have a few more shades of color there. It was sometimes hard to see the grey enemies in front of the grey backgrounds.
Enemy AI seems a bit simple at times, aggro range is quite small.
The camera needs some work, it was my biggest enemy during the boss fight.
I also think I might miss magic a bit in the final release, for game that is almost 100% combat I'd like to have more options than just melee weapons to give me more variety in how I fight enemies. I always liked switching between magic and melee in Souls, so I hope I won't get bored of only having one of those options here. Call it alchemy and it would fit in the game world just fine with the medieval feel and the plague masks.
All in all, I greatly enjoyed it. Gameplay, atmosphere, music, art direction, graphics are all great. I'm sure the game will be amazing and I'm looking forward to playing it again. My only big gripe is the frame rate, I really hope they fix that. The rest are just minor nitpicks.
It's a few months til release so I'm sure they sort out framerate issues as much as they can. Good post. Sums up nicely what my friends have been saying too.
I must have played a different Alpha or different Souls games because I have a hard time understanding sentiments like Souls combat is fun again or I could never play DS2 again, as expressed by several posters here. The lack of shields does make a difference but it is not that different that you could enjoy one but not the other (and if you're a good Souls player you know that dodging is much better than blocking anyway, only casuals use their shield all the time. Havel's set, heavy shield always raised, that's how you recognize a filthy Souls casual.
Don't get me wrong, I'm only commenting on the comparisons to the Souls games. I loved what I played, it feels fresh (though not that much) and familiar at the same time, they struck a good balance, and it's a lot of fun.
As for the difficulty: after getting used to having no shield and to the weapon transformations, I found the game was a bit easier than the Souls games, mostly because damaging enemies heals you and the blood vials, this game's estus flasks, had a fairly high drop rate. The gameplay itself is still fairly challenging. Again, they struck a good balance here.
The area where I wish the game didn't feel like Souls is the frame rate. I played mostly Wii U games lately, most of which are 60fps, and going from that to sub 30fps with drops takes some getting used to. It was not very pleasant to my eyes. You'd think that with a much more powerful system you could expect games to have at least half the framerate and be stable. The game is not fast paced, it's not an over top action game with huge set pieces, it's on fairly powerful hardware, its exclusive, which should make optimization easier, so it's not that unreasonable to expect stable 30 fps. I didn't expect any better from DS2 because of the ancient hardware, but this is on the PS4. Come on, From, try a little harder.
I have some more minor complaints like the color palette, it wouldn't hurt to have a few more shades of color there. It was sometimes hard to see the grey enemies in front of the grey backgrounds.
Enemy AI seems a bit simple at times, aggro range is quite small.
The camera needs some work, it was my biggest enemy during the boss fight.
I also think I might miss magic a bit in the final release, for game that is almost 100% combat I'd like to have more options than just melee weapons to give me more variety in how I fight enemies. I always liked switching between magic and melee in Souls, so I hope I won't get bored of only having one of those options here. Call it alchemy and it would fit in the game world just fine with the medieval feel and the plague masks.
All in all, I greatly enjoyed it. Gameplay, atmosphere, music, art direction, graphics are all great. I'm sure the game will be amazing and I'm looking forward to playing it again. My only big gripe is the frame rate, I really hope they fix that. The rest are just minor nitpicks.
Yeah, it's basically a Souls game with a different name and a somewhat different setting, though not completely different.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
This is brilliant.
Duel wielding makes the gameplay look faster than what I've seen. God I can't wait!
Audioboxer
Member
Wish we could still play the demo offline
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