OminousShadow
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Hit the nail on the head.
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[Eurogamer\DF] Orbis Unmasked: what to expect from the next-gen PlayStation.
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Hit the nail on the head.
What the? Maybe because it's a closed box? Maybe 2005 hardware that is used in PS3 and that can only run oblivion on medium settings can run GOD OF FUCKING WAR 3 IN 720P WITH WONDERFUL IQ when enclosed in a box besides having HALF THE ROPS AND ABYSMAL RAM... or maybe not, let me dream.
And even then it won't be comparable.
Oh god, imagine all that power in the hands of Sony first party developers.
This. Imagine 6 years from now, 1st party PS4 game with 720p 30fps perfect AA. :-O The ammount of detail they can cram in in that game will be awesome.
Clay Davis
Member
Back it up with posts that support such a claim or shut the hell up with this bs.
I still don't believe all of this.
I mean..is really going to be 4GB of GDDR5 vs 5GB of slower DDR3 for Durango?
how much eDRAM can Microsoft put in there to balance that out? Is it even possible?
also would Microsoft even consider lowering their 3GB reserved for the OS over time?
I mean..is really going to be 4GB of GDDR5 vs 5GB of slower DDR3 for Durango?
how much eDRAM can Microsoft put in there to balance that out? Is it even possible?
also would Microsoft even consider lowering their 3GB reserved for the OS over time?
ok ill make a thread for aegis if that makes you happy
1080p or bust for next gen.
alexandros
Banned
PC, as always.
So ladies and gents, I am VLTTP here. I just saw the specs and they looked, "okay". Still a bit miffed about the 512MB, i.e. MORE, than PS3 developers had for games at their disposal being Consumed by the OS. I really hope:
Now, can any good samaritan kindly summarize any ancillary yet fully relevant highlights of this thread?
I would be most grateful if someone could save me from having to sift through "26" pages.
Thank you.
- It justifably earns that space
- In time, the engineers can reduce that footprint as much as possible
Now, can any good samaritan kindly summarize any ancillary yet fully relevant highlights of this thread?
I would be most grateful if someone could save me from having to sift through "26" pages.
Thank you.
shinobi602
Member
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Yeah I completely understand that. Hard to argue the price for a product when the exclusive titles don't do anything for you. My gaming PC has about $900 in hardware currently and its only 2 years old and already I can't play things at Maximum resolutions. Compared to a console I am getting off really cheap in the long run.
Did you read the article?
I know everyone wants to just drive by and be informed on the opinion they should have but the article is really exciting.
And if proelite is to be trusted a 7870 should be enough to run next-gen games as well as the Orbis/Durango...
Not bad at all.
I perfectly understand that, to each his own.
I still say for both $399. 450 is pushing it and 500 won't work imo.
It's not 2005/6 anymore, people aren't dropping a shit load for consoles. Also Idk how MS will pull off the "ultimate" box. I feel they might be underestimating it. I get that the 3gb is in place for the future of windows 8 and apps, but Idk if it could work tbh.
It's not 2005/6 anymore, people aren't dropping a shit load for consoles. Also Idk how MS will pull off the "ultimate" box. I feel they might be underestimating it. I get that the 3gb is in place for the future of windows 8 and apps, but Idk if it could work tbh.
I hate the "buy a PC instead" argument. If you can find me someone who is still playing all the latest PC games on his $500-or-less gaming PC from 2006, then color me very surprised.
There are clear huge advantages to having a console (along with disadvantages obviously; I know its not perfect).
There are clear huge advantages to having a console (along with disadvantages obviously; I know its not perfect).
- 3.5GB of fast GDDR5 vs. 5GB of slow DDR3
- Most probably 32MB of ESRAM. Slower that X360 EDRAM but with better latencies.
- Yes, but they seem focused on creating home media center with great support for Kinect2, projectors, similar family accessories.
Clay Davis
Member
I expect £350 with maybe a bundled game. /wishfulthinking.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Oh, I get it. I never once thought that Gaf=World, because as we all know that's not true.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
And if proelite is to be trusted a 7870 should be enough to run next-gen games as well as the Orbis/Durango...
Not bad at all.
I perfectly understand that, to each his own.
Indeed
Still love my PC though.I think there will be either one of two scenarios:
1) 2 units: $400-$450 / $500-$550
2) 1 unit / 1 subscription: $500-$550 / $100-$150 yearly sub.
Esram is faster than edram afaik.
Clay Davis
Member
It will. Very much so.
Starting to read it now. I glanced over the bullet points.
I was wondering if any other info from other sources pertaining to the latest info was mentioned pages gone by.
JonathanPower
Member
I don't think he is in the minority. I'd take 1080p@60fps over OS features every day. If Durango will be crippled by slow memory and an overbloated OS using 2 cores and 3GB of ram, while PS4 will have much more power available for games thus allowing 1080p gaming, I'd buy PS4 day one.
if i may ask,are you his father?
mugurumakensei
Member
2006 hardware can still run the latest PC games. The only difference is the guy with a newer card has better image quality, better framerate, and more effects.
Here you go.
I'm dyin' here. Fucking brutal.
But sony's machine will also be an entertainment hub, offering all the usual services. So it's not like PS4 will only be a games machine. Even if Durango is a great entertainment hub, will it be that much greater than all the media services that will be horizontal across both machines (and smart TVs etc)?
Shouldn't we be more interested in what games/non game stuff are coming rather than what edram or gigahurtz or googleplexes are in the thing? No, this is Neogaf.
Fat nerds only happy when shit is CAPABLE of running things fast/amazing graphics rather than if there is a possibility it ever will
Fat nerds only happy when shit is CAPABLE of running things fast/amazing graphics rather than if there is a possibility it ever will
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
this right here. none of the ps3's "developers can lock games if they want", region-free all the way.
i'm looking at you atlus.
I'd have a psychological barrier there with that price if it doesn't include a good bundled game... If it came with a free PSN + account or a free game, then we could start welcoming our sony overlords.
It's very powerful for a console. It's kind of useless to compare it to PCs.
No way. These specs can easily be done in a $399 box for little to no loss.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Here you go.
Hahaha well done.
360 is incredibly efficient in this area, so if they're reserving 3gb it's either to future-proof (they can later release the memory back to developers for future games if they don't require it) or they have big plans for it being far more than just a games console. Will be interesting to see how next-gen plays out.
TheDrowningMan
Member
Probably.
Although I must say that Xbox (followed by GameCube, when its comparatively minuscule storage media wasn't an issue) almost always had the one to get during that generation, in spite of its lukewarm reception. PS2 would have been hard to recommend had it not hoovered up the vast majority of exclusives. It did, and it's one of the greatest consoles ever as a result.
PS2 being a given for most games didn't really help the others get tapped as often as they could have been. I mean, if something weird and improbable happens, the others REALLY struggle and Wii U starts to become a popular CoD box...
I'm a bit of a laymen with this techno jargon, but next gen consoles using tablet and notebook tech with the capabilities of running BF3 at medium settings at 1080p out of the gate, this all seems rather disappointing imo. What am I missing, is power consumption really that detrimental?
Do you know anyone doing that, and what state of playability are we talking about here? Keep in mind we are talking a $500 PC.
shinobi602
Member
Here you go.
This is like the 10th time I've seen this picture in this thread and I keep cracking up.
Legendary meme is born.
Even if a few things are wrong here and there, I'm still very impressed with these specifications. If they can both release under $450.. and the exclusives are there.. I'm definitely purchasing both within the first 2 years.
I'm an avid PC gamer and I still hate the spec comparisons. I believe we will see games at E3 that will blow us away on these closed systems..
I'm an avid PC gamer and I still hate the spec comparisons. I believe we will see games at E3 that will blow us away on these closed systems..
shinra-bansho
Member
This. Sorry but regardless of what a few a willing to pay on here $500 is a ridiculous price point and no one will buy it.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
That DF article breaks it all down. Go read the article.
