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Every PS4 won't come bundled with an EyeToy after all? Image Inside.
- Thread starter Amir0x
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if they have 2 tiers and the Eye comes in one it will be enough
The_Hitcher89
Member
$100 sounds about right for a $50 camera, 500GB and game imo
This is good news. It means that the camera isn't required and that the cost of the system won't be inflated by the inclusion of one. I would have never used it anyway so it's exclusion should theoretically save me money. The only concern I have left is whether or not they'll force it upon a higher tiered SKU and leave it out of an unattractive tard pack (like the 360 Arcade SKU was).
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
On one side it might reduce the base price of PS4, but on the other side it almost sends yet another EyeToy product out to die... unless they do plan to heavily support it with first party releases and marketing (MS was able to make Kinect something far from a full failure, Sony should learn how to do the same).
I hope the $349 basic SKU + $399 premium SKU (PS4 Eye included) happens.
I hope the $349 basic SKU + $399 premium SKU (PS4 Eye included) happens.
- no camera as standard means more games will be developed not using camera functions, so Vita remote play will be better supported
- Sony can still use voice commands in games and OS as the DS4 has a mic built in - but users can add the PSeye for that too - perhaps useful for skype etc
- price of lowest sku will be kept under control and should undercut MS fairly significantly (at least $50) assuming MS don't subsidise day one.
- Sony can still use voice commands in games and OS as the DS4 has a mic built in - but users can add the PSeye for that too - perhaps useful for skype etc
- price of lowest sku will be kept under control and should undercut MS fairly significantly (at least $50) assuming MS don't subsidise day one.
Fried Food
Banned
People were expecting the camera to be bundled with the controllers?
I think the mic + touchpad on the ps4 controller covers the important bits that kinect will allow on the xbone. Adding a mic + touchpad to controller costs way less than adding an ps4eye to the box.
As far as traditional games go, camera is not at all important given the ds4 functionality. Pretty astute move by sony.
RibbedHero
Member
If I want camera based gaming I'd play the Xbox One which will undoubtedly do it better. Sony made the right decision by not bundling this.
I honestly do not see that happening. X1 will be cheaper than PS4.
SolidusDave
Member
I really hope there will be a 1 TB option. Or at least allow me to upgrade to at least 2 TB.
My 500 GB HDD in my PS3 is not enough to house ALL of the partial game installs + patch data + bought PSN games (no full PS3 games).
Had to delete a lot including all demos etc. to be able to keep up with what PS+ throws at you. I don't sell games and would like all my games to be ready to go, updated to the newest version etc.. I know it's unrealistic as most old games I will probably never play again, but still
The space required on PS4 will be even higher over the years.
they could just include it in 1 sku and if its going to be available from launch it will get a big install base among ps4 consoles.
many times the cheapest sku isn't the one that sells the most.
Hydrargyrus
Member
Yup
I think that there will be 2 SKUs, but not as good as those. More like:
1) 400€ with 320GB and 3 month PSN+
2) 500€ with 1TB, 1 year PSN+ (and some Gaikai service) and PSEye.
Both will include a headset
DeadRockstar
Member
Nice catch. Nothing but good news if it's true.
Missed opportunity for what?
Waldo Lydecker
Member
Less is more.
Really, in this day and age of content and shit it is the greatest wisdom there is.
Less is more.
I don't want that camera bundled.
I do want the option to delete games from my trophies lits.
I didn't want Gran Turismo to have standard cars.
I always delete 'meh' games of my hdd or sell them used.
I always sell 'meh' movies from my collection, just as books.
Take this advice from some bloke called Brian Draper:
Really, in this day and age of content and shit it is the greatest wisdom there is.
Less is more.
I don't want that camera bundled.
I do want the option to delete games from my trophies lits.
I didn't want Gran Turismo to have standard cars.
I always delete 'meh' games of my hdd or sell them used.
I always sell 'meh' movies from my collection, just as books.
Take this advice from some bloke called Brian Draper:
Oppo
Member
So certain. I'm not.
ItalianJoe83
Member
So no "HAL" bundled with the PS4 then... good news to me (and for my portfolio too)
I'd rather wait for E3 for more clarification, but so far and from the limited talk they gave on the camera, it sounds like it's an essential functionality to DS4 so bundling it rather makes sense. E3 should clarify all of this I guess.
Also fwiw, the camera was actually featured in the PS4 teaser.
Also fwiw, the camera was actually featured in the PS4 teaser.
It doesn't matter, this means in no way is it required, it's not used for the UI, and it's not listening to me. It was already not going to be used that heavily in games because of Vita remote play.
A lot of GAF have taken Sony's word that this system is still all about games, and I certainly hoped that was the case, but no camera in the box is an eight year commitment to core gamepad experiences.
Zekra Dezivad
Member
I'm really sorry, I feel ashamed, but... but... I really can't see this as a bad thing
Dead Prince
Banned
Same. Now we get less things.that support it since its optional
yurinka
Member
I think it's going to be PS4+DS4+PS4Eye+500GB priced $50 less than XB1 and then there would be a cheaper 250GB version.
Both with online multiplayer, web browser, Hulu, Netflix and the other basic services for free.
All consoles would be bundled with the eyetoy, the 'sold separatedly' of the ad would mean that if you buy an additional DS4 it won't include the camera.
PS4 Eye usage would be optional and console would work without it, and you would be allowed to replay the HDD with any other as happened in PS3.
Both with online multiplayer, web browser, Hulu, Netflix and the other basic services for free.
All consoles would be bundled with the eyetoy, the 'sold separatedly' of the ad would mean that if you buy an additional DS4 it won't include the camera.
PS4 Eye usage would be optional and console would work without it, and you would be allowed to replay the HDD with any other as happened in PS3.
Yeah. 100%. They will likely end up at the same price $399 or $499 but MS wont let Sony undercut them.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Out of interest, is there any chance at all of being able to use a DS3 as a secondary controller on the PS4?
BruiserBear
Banned
Anytime I'm not forced into paying for and using shit I don't want, I'm happy. Might want to take note Microsoft.
No
No
DeadRockstar
Member
To those suggesting this would be a missed opportunity: Missed business opportunity, maybe. It's probably easier to sell your human-waggle games when the install base is guaranteed.
From a consumer point of view? I don't want to absorb the cost of a control method I never intent to use and would happily buy later on if I were to change my mind. Unlikely as that may be.
From a consumer point of view? I don't want to absorb the cost of a control method I never intent to use and would happily buy later on if I were to change my mind. Unlikely as that may be.
Less is more.
Really, in this day and age of content and shit it is the greatest wisdom there is.
Less is more.
I don't want that camera bundled.
I do want the option to delete games from my trophies lits.
I didn't want Gran Turismo to have standard cars.
I always delete 'meh' games of my hdd or sell them used.
I always sell 'meh' movies from my collection, just as books.
Take this advice from some bloke called Brian Draper:
great post. best decision I ever made in my life was to get rid of extraneous shit. We needed 3 portable dumpsters loads to get rid of all the cruft (house + garage). Went from 5 vehicles to 2 + 2 bikes + 1 electric bike, blah blah. very liberating.
One of the things I hate about steam is I cannot get rid of shit from my game list.
Omnistalgic
Member
yup...I'll wait for it officially first...
It may be a gimped version of PS4 that nobody wants like the basic WiiU bundle...
RibbedHero
Member
Planned obsolescence I think, so they won't support previous controllers.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Shame. All because of the trackpad? Or different signals and the like?
so people only have to buy the camera instead of a move type of device and the camera?
Don´t see how getting rid of worthless baggage is gimping a SKU.
Giant Panda
Member
That is just not true. This camera will not get good support if it is not packed in. That is a missed opportunity.
BruiserBear
Banned
Different everything. The new one has lower signal latency.
backbreaker65
Banned
damn Sony I want that camera packed in so that I can experience new gameplay you have the controller you said it was designed in concert with one another.