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Fallout 4 GOTY Edition huge reduction
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Robochobo
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Fredrik
Member
I’ve heard good things about NV. A bit different in roleplaying mechanics and not just brown correct?I'd say save this for later and either play 3 or New Vegas, NV preferably.
Regginator
Member
I've never played Fallout 1 and 2 before, but I've heard from fans that New Vegas is the truest to them, so you may like that one more.
Regardless of that, as a package I think New Vegas is a much better game with much better writing than 3. Still, I'd recommend starting with 3 first. It's by all means no bad game, fun even at times with great innovations like V.A.T.S. and of course the open world, but NV improved upon it in every conceivable way (technical hiccups aside, especially at launch and more specifically the PS3 version, but Bethesda aren't strangers to that either).
In my headcanon Bethesda doesn't want Obsidian to do another Fallout because they were a bit butthurt that NV was so well received by the fanbase. But since both got bought by Microsoft, maybe they can be persuaded.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
You can get it on PC for under $10 any day of the week if you hit key sellers.
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killatopak
Member
I think I bought my goty edition at $20 and it was worth it then.
Most of the comparisons are about dialogue, roleplaying, intro, story, quest design, gunplay and map design.
For map, it boils down to the freedom one feels when exploring. New Vegas can be explored in any way you want. It’s just that enemy encounters are design to push you in certain directions via roadblocks. Those roadblocks being high level enemies. There are ways to circumvent them but it is a roadblock nonetheless. FO3 enemies scale on the other hand scale with you from the very start so there is very little stopping you from going in any direction you want.
Roleplaying in FO3 is quite a conundrum because of the dice roll mechanics. You can be the best at what you roleplay and still fail or be the worst and still succeed. FONV has hard skill checks so your choice really counts. Dialogue is affected as a consequence of those same reasons. Some really dumb choices are glaring for me.
wtf destiny my ass. Put your damn radiation immune ass to that room and start the water purification.
I mean most of the complains about FO3 intro is the long ass intro that it does but it’s certainly an unforgettable moment for a lot of people especially when you leave the vault. FONV is very straightforward along with its tutorials that encompass, dialogue, gunplay, skill checks and branching ways to complete the quest. All of it is skippable.
All I’ll say about quest design is that most if not all the quest felt like Bloody Baron Witcher 3 in terms of how many ways you can complete them. All of which have consequences for the factions in the mojave. One of my favorite ones is the Ultra Luxe casino quest line. There’s like a dozen ways to complete the quest, each with their own consequences to the parties involved and an overarching effect to main faction questline.
Gunplay is definitely better especially with multiple ammo choices for traditional guns and energy weapons alike. Unique guns are amazing but with Gun Runners weapon mods, all weapons feel like they are worth using. Even made fun of FO3 by having a mod for the laser weapons to have sights.
Yeah, different.
Most of the comparisons are about dialogue, roleplaying, intro, story, quest design, gunplay and map design.
For map, it boils down to the freedom one feels when exploring. New Vegas can be explored in any way you want. It’s just that enemy encounters are design to push you in certain directions via roadblocks. Those roadblocks being high level enemies. There are ways to circumvent them but it is a roadblock nonetheless. FO3 enemies scale on the other hand scale with you from the very start so there is very little stopping you from going in any direction you want.
Roleplaying in FO3 is quite a conundrum because of the dice roll mechanics. You can be the best at what you roleplay and still fail or be the worst and still succeed. FONV has hard skill checks so your choice really counts. Dialogue is affected as a consequence of those same reasons. Some really dumb choices are glaring for me.
wtf destiny my ass. Put your damn radiation immune ass to that room and start the water purification.
I mean most of the complains about FO3 intro is the long ass intro that it does but it’s certainly an unforgettable moment for a lot of people especially when you leave the vault. FONV is very straightforward along with its tutorials that encompass, dialogue, gunplay, skill checks and branching ways to complete the quest. All of it is skippable.
All I’ll say about quest design is that most if not all the quest felt like Bloody Baron Witcher 3 in terms of how many ways you can complete them. All of which have consequences for the factions in the mojave. One of my favorite ones is the Ultra Luxe casino quest line. There’s like a dozen ways to complete the quest, each with their own consequences to the parties involved and an overarching effect to main faction questline.
Gunplay is definitely better especially with multiple ammo choices for traditional guns and energy weapons alike. Unique guns are amazing but with Gun Runners weapon mods, all weapons feel like they are worth using. Even made fun of FO3 by having a mod for the laser weapons to have sights.
LazyParrot
Member
I bought the base game for five bucks a few years ago. The loading times were bad enough to make me quit ~10 hours in. Loading into the overworld from the main menu after starting the game? 5 seconds. Entering a building, then zoning back out into the exact same area? Fucking 2-3 minutes.
killatopak
Member
Are perhaps running on last gen consoles? That shouldn’t be the case in PC. Also, there’s a planned next gen update for the game so loading times should only get better.
I’m not saying you’re wrong though. That’s definitely a downside of the game. Loading times weren’t that long in the older entries.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
I tried playing it twice, but both times I got bored and quit after a while. I've never experienced anything like this before in any Bethesda game or Fallout game. I'm not sure if I should give it a try for the third time.
Nooooooooo! Stop! Go back and play fan made Fallout 1,5.
LazyParrot
Member
No, this was on PC with the game installed on an NVMe SSD.
Fredrik
Member
Really? I actually played that short bit but stopped when the world outside was just some brown depressive wasteland. I get the post apocalyptic theme but come on if I’m going to immerse myself in a world for 100 hours or so I need something that will cause me to go ”wow!”.
Oblivion had a great intro and ”coming out” moment.
killatopak
Member
You have to understand for most people, it’s their first fallout game. Then you are stuck in a vault for a couple of hours. That’s where the expectations lie. That you will be navigating sewers or other vaults similar to Metro even if that game did release later. Suddenly you get to see this huge landscape and your expectation is blown away. You mean there’s more?! Then you look at your world map to get directions via your pip boy and realize just how huge the map you’re allowed to explore.
Hudo
Member
I'd say it's a good deal if you don't care about the narrative pacing of the main story and it's disconnect with the open-world design. For me, that was the biggest issue with Fallout 4. Nevermind the asinine meta game bullshit with settlements (you can ignore these, thankfully). It's obviously more of an action-RPG than the first Fallouts and even Fallout 3 but I don't mind that personally.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Well, you're gonna have a big departure cause 3 onward don't play like the older games.
But they're good games in their own right.
Fredrik
Member
Ah yeah then I understand. I had exactly that happening in Oblivion, was my first The Elder Scrolls. Coming out of that cave at the beginning and seeing the world outside is to this day my absolute favorite start in a game.
MayauMiao
Member
Rendered Tangent
Banned
Bloody hell, that's a lot of play time.Good value but now I'm stuck with Fallout 76.
Rendered Tangent
Banned
I quite liked that initial section in the vault.
DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy
Member
I tried it at launch and got bored and never touched it again. Ever since it got mods on Xbox I’ve been curious to try it again but still haven’t. My main annoyance was how much it tried to get you to do the base building. I hope Starfield doesn’t frontload that as much as FO4 and just has it there outside the main quest for those interested.
Do mods make it more enjoyable? May sound like a dumb question but I like Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim with or without mods; I don’t know if they would change FO4 enough to my liking.
Do mods make it more enjoyable? May sound like a dumb question but I like Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim with or without mods; I don’t know if they would change FO4 enough to my liking.
MidGenRefresh
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There’s maybe a 30 minutes total of forced building in the main story. Everything else is optional and can be ignored.
Rendered Tangent
Banned
Exactly.
It's completely optional and, I think, handled well enough that it's worth preserving with.
Rendered Tangent
Banned
Yeah, it's a shame because it's such a rich game world with so much lore.
I mean, there's always 76 to try if you've held off because of the bad publicity it got.
It's actually meant to be in better state now.
Rendered Tangent
Banned
Certainly, the mods allow you to tailor a new bespoke experience.
MayauMiao
Member
Yeah I bought it when it was on discount, I think at $10. I never thought of spending that much time playing and I didn't even buy micro transaction. I'm just having good time leveling up, playing events with other players (not PvP), building up base, etc.
bender
What time is it?
Balducci30
Member
This game was great fun for me. I played it on release. Just a fun world to explore. Never understood the hate - never even touched building a base from what I can remember - so I don’t really get where that complaint comes from.
tecmo9000
Member
Nuka was great as well! Definitely worth a play.
Rendered Tangent
Banned
I heard it's a great slice of content, so I'm going to grab it 100%.
Rendered Tangent
Banned
Totally understand.
I've put hundreds of hours into stuff, you just get lost in the world.
Kupfer
Member
Did it get a PS5 patch? Got the PS4 version but don't want to start over again in 30fps.
shubik
Member
not yet. But it is expected to come out this year
Kupfer
Member
Patch or 60€ definitive super special deluxe next gen give me your money edition?
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
It seemed it, until the east side of the map crapped over every save I had on a fully patched game and went into a slide show meltdown until it locked up the Series X..
Thirty hours down the bog. Never touched it since. Doubt i'll ever reinstall it again.
MidGenRefresh
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I had the same until I switched off weapon decals or something like this in the settings. Everything else set to max. And... it just works.
MikeM
Member
Nah. I meant PS4.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No, PS5 does not have the patch (or any FPS mods) at the moment.
MikeM
Member
I have had a few crashes so far- nothing major. Anything odd occur before the crash happens?
GymWolf
Member
No crash so far.
But of course one of the very first objective seems bugged, i can't find the plants for the chick that teached me how to fight
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No idea, they haven't given a date yet.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
I really didn't like Fallout 4 and I didn't like Fallout 3 all that much when it came out. The introduction is terribly paced akin to something like Skyrim versus Morrowind and I just don't like level scaling at all. New Vegas outshines it all day and night both of the Bethesda entries.
I did pick up Fallout 4 a few years ago when I saw it on sale for PlayStation and figured I would give it a shot but I just wasn't all that into it. I liked the design of the world and the visuals were great and the gunplay seemed better than ever but everything else seems like a side step or possibly even a step backwards in some cases.
I did pick up Fallout 4 a few years ago when I saw it on sale for PlayStation and figured I would give it a shot but I just wasn't all that into it. I liked the design of the world and the visuals were great and the gunplay seemed better than ever but everything else seems like a side step or possibly even a step backwards in some cases.
