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Fallout 4 Officially Revealed for PC, Xbox One, PS4 [Reddit Rumor = Ban]
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Can this fake image be added to OP so people will stop posting it?
Fify.
Frankly that is what I have learned today. Gamers deserve their mountain of bullshit trailers. It's the coal that feeds the hype train and once the curtain is pulled back - unless the violation is extremely egregious - the train will just run over the minority of posters pointing out the deception and bait and switch bullshit.
bananafactory
Banned
You may be confusing what you are shown with what the game *actually looks like*
Sure, the final build often doesn't match the "target render" stuff showcased at E3, but I assure you that the actual alpha/pre-alpha builds of the software are almost always very rough looking.
DOWN
Banned
Sounds fake
Well that sucks. Bethesda games have notoriously BAD gameplay.
Dat misinformation though.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
Was Durante's post directed towards mine? I cannot find it anywhere.
Regardless, I am not going to lecture someone who is more knowledgable than I on draw calls. He has a point about there not being post processing in the images. If there was AO alone I think fewer peeps would be upset though. Gamebryo has never had AO though has it? I can understand why they would stick with the Creation (gamebryo 3.0ish) Engine though. Their world state saving system alone would be a nightmare to completely redo in another engine. My eyes bleed just thinking about the massive amount of work that has gone into how they keep their worlds so dynamic. Redoing all of that, man, no thanks.
BTW, my knowledge comes from optimizing 3d games for android and IOS where the draw call caps are at roughly 70 - 100 calls before performance tanks. Its a pain in the ass, thankfully our next game is for the ps4.
ScaryShark
Banned
Yet another release where so much of the discussion has to do with graphical fidelity. I come to Fallout for the setting, character interactions and freedom of choice. I'm confident we'll get that in spades.
The argument is completely wrong.
Complaining about bullshots does not somehow make complains about bad graphics hypocritical or wrong.
Developers being honest about their visuals is one thing. Delivering poor looking visuals is another thing.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Yea, the game isn't a visual spectacle.
maquiladora
Member
Because ambient occlusion is what made so many people love New Vegas.
That would be enough to make me not buy it.
No bethesda rpg has ever done that right? It has to be false.
Evil Beaver
Member
If indeed the game has a voiced protag then I can at least hope for male and female VO actors.
As noted a few pages back, I did find a lot about a hero-simulation resp. simulation feature that will be shown on the homepage later. Maybe there is some crazy stuff going on and thus they need to cut back on the graphics side?
The thing that made me love New Vegas is not present in Fallout 4.
As someone who has been raising and loving German Shepherds for years, this makes me smile so much:
They are indeed bad ass dogs, I'm just worried I'm going to kill mine by mistake or he'll glitch out and I'll lose him. ;__;
bananafactory
Banned
It depends if the game is specifically written for the male character or not
Looks very reminiscent of early Destiny shots.
Something I wish the improve on. Both Fallout 3 and Skyrim bored me quick. They build awesome worlds, so please let me have fun in them.
Something I wish the improve on. Both Fallout 3 and Skyrim bored me quick. They build awesome worlds, so please let me have fun in them.
Description
Member
Even if I was being paid well for a job, I could easily want to leave if everything I did was incessantly scrutinized, insulted, etc.
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
I already said that it does not look good enough considering Bethesda's budget/talent/experience, not my "unreasonably high" expectations.
I'm not the one that ever compared it to specific titles nor did I ever compare it to the witcher. I simply said titles that have come out on these consoles have higher graphical fidelity meaning high graphical fidelity is a possibility on said hardware.
I'm not arbitrarily upset, I'm upset because the trailer they used to showcase the graphics shows how bad they are. That's my reason. What is your point in all this? Why are you so adamant to defend a game from valid criticism that hasn't even come out yet?
I'd get it if I was shitting on the game but I'm not, I believe the game play will be awesome like previous Bethesda titles I'm simply expressing my dissatisfaction with the graphics on a gaming forum for expressing views on games.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
I actually thoroughly enjoy the exploration, questing, looting and even the combat in previous Fallout games. All of those are examples of gameplay.
-duskdoll-
Member
Oh damn, i was gonna put 500 hours into this game but now i can't because it doesn't have "ambient occlusion", whatever that means.
cripterion
Member
Pillars of Eternity for me. And that's a kickstarted game.
I also remember being quite impressed with the visuals when they first showed 2K14 with the Phil Collins trailer. Game ended up the same.
Not all games that look good end up being downgraded. Where are you getting this narrative?
OverturePT
Member
RPGCrazied
Member
I hope he sticks around for the whole game. The dog in Fallout 3, for me, didn't last very long. Once he is gone, its gone. I guess you can mod him in for good? Don't know.
I for one weep for the Bethesda devs hurt feelings in a thread they will never even read.
Most of the trailer seemed pleasing to me. but I'm really surprised that they would make an in-game trailer and have it missing stock standard features out like AO. Like, assuming we are seeing the PS4 version, you don't expect hairworks, hbao+ etc. but after 3 or 4 years you do expect a trailer witch a decent standard of regular AO no problem. Strange. I suppose the rest of the reactions are because we are used to seeing physically accurate materials now, in clothing especially.
I'm still hyped for it.
My favourite scene was
because it reminds me of this scene
I'm still hyped for it.
My favourite scene was
because it reminds me of this scene
Barry Burton
Member
It seems for a lot of folks, there's not much middle-ground between "Best looking game ever!" and "Looks like shit!"
I'm happy with how both Fallout 4 and The Witcher 3 look.
stufte
Member
Pathfinder
Member
Can we please get back to talking about the actual game?
For example, there was that one bit in the trailer with the nuclear bomb going off. Do we think Fallout 4 going to be a prequel?
For example, there was that one bit in the trailer with the nuclear bomb going off. Do we think Fallout 4 going to be a prequel?
Devs post on twitter and especially Reddit. GAF is just too toxic for them to have any presence here now.
LookAtMeGo
Member
To each his own. IMO it looks good. The dog and character models aren't doing much for me nor the indoor scenes, but those quick shots of the wasteland looked great to me. Its not blowing me away but I still like what I see.
gundamkyoukai
Member
People are paying the same $60 dollars for this game same as any other .
The game has no AO , poor AA, not casting shadows etc etc people just calling out what they seeing , you don't even have to look to hard to see it .
Also people think a company like Bethesda that full of cash should be able to make a better looking game.
Sunnington
Banned
I'll only buy this if they bring back groin shot.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
No, that is probable the opening sequence for new people joining the series this generation.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Oh snap.
And if the leak is half-true, not in the next spin-off either.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
This trailer is great, so damn glad it doesn't seem to be blasted target render/and or prerendered CGI stuff.
Been playing some Fallout 3 recently, and this seems so much for colorful too.
Been playing some Fallout 3 recently, and this seems so much for colorful too.
Shitty engine makes the gameplay worse so thats a stupid comparison.
Doubt it. Maybe the MC is the baby in the trailer and vault 111 opens waaaay earlier than the other vaults, or has some time travel experiment.
Reddit has hug fest subs that rarely get critical, so it's not surprising.
Bethesda may be taking the under promise, over deliver approach here with the graphics. Certainly does not look like a new engine.
If CDPR had taken an actual slice of their in production footage for their initial release trailer for the consoles I think people would of lost their minds at how bad it likely looked. But it would of been honest.
But instead they provided a bullshit vertical slice and lied about it up til release and sold millions. The highest count posters in the downgrade thread were people defending CDPR.
That is my point. Gamers today, they get what they deserve. As a publisher I would look at a thread like this and ask myself "what is the point of honest reveals???" I'm better off with a untiy, GTA or Witcher 3 type deception because it builds hype and the naysayers get drowned out. Unattainablly polished and with subtle upgrades that not even the maxed PC version will have. That seems to be what gamers respond too even though you bring up the topic and everyone says they hate it. Well, you clearly don't.
Whatever you think of the graphics, I don't think anyone can honestly say it looks like the effort of a company that has a mountain of cash and all the time in the world to make the best game that they can make, so that's part of the problem for me. I resent Bethesda's lack of ambition. Compare GTA 5 to GTA 4. Witcher 3 to Witcher 2. It's not about genre, it's about a developer taking the time to create something much greater than what came before it. Bethesda doesn't do this, and they have no excuse not to.
Alcoholikaust
Member
according to the super rumor reddit page: it takes place 10 years after events of Fallout 3- interspersed with flashback segments
Being able to walk in any building without loading in a massive world has been one of those things I've been waiting on for a long time. I hope so.
SinSilla
Member
Must have Seen a different trailer, it's the exact opposite! Hopefully even the last sentence.