There is something called price collapse.
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Famitsu Japan 2012 Top 100 Games
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There is something called price collapse.
When it comes to SE, the goal-posts are always moved.
Then theres the hyperbole. Lets not forget the mythical Versus too.
semiconscious
Member
damn! #12 with less than a month of sales! please, sega! - you can afford it now
...pseudomyxoma
Member
To be fair I bought it too
electroplankton
Banned
Kid Icarus: Uprising had a mild success, given how it was pushed. In fact, if it would have been the first one of a series, I had said it put some nice results. The problem is it will likely a stand-alone game, and it barely sold one million units worldwide (maybe less).
Captain Smoker
Member
It's a million seller worldwide.
But we probably won't see shipment numbers in the annual report, because the first week isn't included in the fiscal year. And the first week probably accounts for 300.000 units.
Neff
Member
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
6.25 games were developed by western teams.
Mario Kart 7 (Retro Studios)
Resident Evil: Operation Racoon City (Slant Six Games)
Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Treyarch)
Just Dance Wii (Ubisoft Paris)
Just Dance Wii 2 (Ubisoft Paris)
Art Academy: Lessons for Everyone (Headstrong Games)
Assassin's Creed III (Ubisoft Montreal)
No, it was developed by EAD. Retro contributed some assets.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Retro did the retro courses entirely, not just assets. Obviously EAD supplied the engine and laid out the base mechanics, but Retro did all the course redesign for their part too.
I'm guessing that's the .25
MisterHero
Super Member
*bow* 3DS, Nintendo, Capcom
PS3 is putting up a good fight.
Unless something's changed, Resident Evil is Capcom's highest-selling franchise. RE6 always had good chances of doing well.
PS3 is putting up a good fight.
Unless something's changed, Resident Evil is Capcom's highest-selling franchise. RE6 always had good chances of doing well.
MrCunningham
Member
Amazing that the PS3 is the second highest console in software, yet Sony is listed number 9 on software sales by publishers. SCE leans too far on Western studios to really appeal to Japanese tastes. Great for other regions of the world, but not so great for their home country.
Making Explosive Boost for 3DS was a smart move for the present, but it's a stupid move for the future of the LBX IP as it sabotaged the release of W on PSP/Vita. Your post is proof enough of that. You expect a W re-release, and a lot of other people did too. It got to the point where Hino went on Twitter and said it's not going to happen (in which case, I call bullshit). Who's going to buy the first release when they know something with more content will come out in 6 months?
electroplankton
Banned
I don't think the release of Baku Boost affected W's sales so much. Baku Boost sold to either a new audience for the franchise or to people that basically bought everything with the name LBX on it. So W, in this aspect, wasn't affected at all, in my opinion. Then, people might expect the release of a W Baku Boost, that's true, but given the audience, I don't see how this could have affected the sales of the second very entry. I mean, people didn't buy Diamond / Pearl because they were expecting Platinum? People didn't buy Black / White because they were expecting a third version? As for Level-5 itself, instead, a small loss before can be well compensated by a great earning later on, e.g. Inazuma Eleven 3 with its Ogre version sold more than Inazuma Eleven 2, with an additional minimum effort. And LBX Boost and Inazuma Eleven Strikers eXtreme sold very well regardless the short span of time with the original release.
In this case, Level-5 has been farsighted enough. LBX would have been declined anyway, regardless Baku Boost. You cannot explain the drop in W with respect to the first episode (more than half drop) just with the release on Boost.
CadetMahoney
Member
Good to know bad taste isn't restricted to the west.
Anywhere I can find this list?
Poohblaster
Member
Somebody needs to let Japanese gamers know that people make good games outside their own country.
2012 was not a good year for gaming
MrCunningham
Member
Kids aren't stupid. Especially when LBX W, and LBX Explosive Boost are announced on the same page, in the same issue of CoroCoro Comic. No franchise has re-releases like LBX does:
Little Battlers eXperience - PSP / June 2011
Little Battlers eXperience Boost - PSP / November 2011
Little Battlers eXperience Explosive Boost - 3DS / July 2012
Level-5 only makes the situation worse for themselves as they do heavy promotional work for every release, ensuring people know these games are getting re-released so often with more content every time.
Yes, LBX W probably would've sold less than the first as the PSP declines as a platform but there are definitely sales lost because of that nonsense. I suspect it'll be damaging too, because when LBX W is ported to 3DS with additional content (which given those sales, it kind of has to) less than a year after the PSP/Vita release it'll once again say to consumers "Don't buy these games on the first go". Level-5 should've just made LBX W a PSP/3DS/Vita game from the start.
linko9
Member
What are you all talking about... that list looks very respectable. The entire top 10 minus RE6 are very to decently good games, and it's no surprise RE6 sold so much. Rest of the list is filled with good games as well, with some inevitable losers here and there. Looks much, much better than the charts I see coming out of Europe, and looks better than the NPD charts as well.
Did it ever sell-through its first shipment?
test_account
XP-39C²
why do you think that Black Ops 2 is abysmal?
Sammy Samusu
Member
Did "great" for a bomba bin game.
MHP3 the best is still MHP3.
Fair point, I hadn't noticed that.
KillerMan91
Member
I am still trying to wrap my head around about why S-E green lighted Lightning Returns after XIII-2 bombed so hard (especially in the west). It must be damn cheap to make.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Looking at how it sold on Vita the only reason to bother porting there is if SCE incentivises it. Which they probably did, which is also probably why it wasn't on 3DS.
LBXW should've been PSP/3DS.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Only two PSV titles?
it does surprise me a bit that so much of the Vita discussion centers around discussing the hardware sales, when the software sales seem to be even worse. then again anything that keeps the multitude of "dooomed" posts to a minimum in sales threads is probably a good thing.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
We'll get sales on the IR best sellers page eventually if it passes a million. That updates every FY and 1m is the 3DS threshold.
Bruno MB
Member
Yes, first shipment was about 850k.
20/04/90 [NFC] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light - ? / 329.000
14/03/92 [NFC] Fire Emblem Gaiden - ? / 325.000
21/01/94 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - ? / 776.000
14/05/96 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Holy War Story - 228.578 / 429.763 (498.000 from sinobi)
28/08/99 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - 30.104 / 158.695
29/03/02 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sealed Sword - 126.267 / 345.574
25/04/03 [GBA] Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword - 109.429 / 265.286
07/10/04 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones - 146.026 / 246.719
20/04/05 [GCN] Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 100.357 / 156.413
22/02/07 [WII] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - 73.337 / 171.924
07/08/08 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon - 147.704 / 252.309
15/07/10 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow - 147.045 / 247.248
19/04/12 [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening - 242.600 / 453.672
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
6.25 non Japanese games.
lazybones18
Banned
Taking the iOS version out of the equation, please tell me that SE was pleased that it sold that much
And good on Kid Icarus for selling what it did, even though it barely sold more that Mario Tennis Open which is disappointing cause MTO sucks
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I seem to recall SE were happy with Japanese sales, dissapointed with western sales.
But that was according to Media Create, right? Did we get the shipment from Famitsu?
Famitsu always showed the game higher:
MC:
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.12.15} (¥7.980) - 524.217 / NEW <62,06%>
Dengeki:
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 (Square Enix) - 526,544 / NEW [ST: ~60% => ~878,000]
Famitsu:
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.12.15} (¥7.980) - 605.660 / NEW
Haunted
Member
Thanks. Overlooked RE and Art Academy, didn't know about Retro's involvement in Mario Kart 7.
Still abysmal. :/
