electroplankton
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Second / third best selling entry in the series, and probably the most profitable ever with all those DLC.
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Famitsu Japan 2012 Top 100 Games
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Second / third best selling entry in the series, and probably the most profitable ever with all those DLC.
Japanese people prefer fun games.
seriously though what "amazing" western titles from last year are missing from this list? all the games I bought in 2012 are on that list.
SatelliteOfLove
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7 PS3 Resident Evil 6 821,053 821,053 Capcom
PS3 Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City 335,323 335,323 Capcom
Way too high.
It isn't like the western publishers bother and it probably isn't worth bothering to them. ie. Black Ops is subbed and published by Square-Enix.
SpaceDrake
Member
Those Ayesha numbers are a little off, as Gust/Tecmo-Koei reported it had sold 120k back in November, and that'd be before the December rush.
Which means some of the games here may have done even better than reported.
Which means some of the games here may have done even better than reported.
Those are shipment numbers.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Yeah, Konami being behind Level 5 even is pretty lol. Guess that's what happens when you gut your internal R&D on the altar of Kojima.
StreetsAhead
Member
Holy Crap at Concentration Training. It was at like 50K last time I saw it in the charts.
Good on Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, and Bravely Default.
Good on Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, and Bravely Default.
Poohblaster
Member
You're banned but I'll answer anyways. To be fair a lot of the best outside-of-Japan games this year were download only. There were some good retail ones however: XCOM, Sleeping Dogs, Halo 4, Far Cry 3, Dishonored, Journey had a box (not sure in Japan), Borderlands 2, Mass Effect 3, Max Payne 3, Forza Horizon, Need For Speed Most Wanted, FIFA, SSX and ZombiU.
The Vita had a ton of good games too, but there isn't enough hardware out there for it to chart.
makingmusic476
Member
Woah. I had stopped paying attention to video game sales figures almost entirely about 1,5-2 years ago. I had no idea RE6 did that well compared to RE5. The opening week was over 600k!
That's pretty damn mind blowing.
That's pretty damn mind blowing.
Please link to equivalent list.
fabfour64xx
Banned
3DS FTW! Can't wait for Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing to come out in NA.
StreetsAhead
Member
Far Cry 3 isn't out until March here.
Journey had no retail release here.
A lot of those games also had little to no marketing push behind them, whereas COD did.
XIII-2 came out in 2011 in Japan. It was the best selling game for consoles of 2011. What you're looking at on this list is the sales it had in 2012.
electroplankton
Banned
Final Fantasy XIII-2 bombed hard. You could find it in the bargain bin two weeks after the launch. It performed a lot worse than the first one.
Bruno MB
Member
Neither Famitsu nor Square Enix made public its shipment number. Famitsu has certainly Final Fantasy XIII-2 with higher first week sales but that doesn't give us any clue about its shipment number. Anyway, I'm sure that the amount doesn't differ too much from the figure provided by Media Create.
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25} - 133.235 / 6.402.912
Nice to have an update on its current total sales. It is probably going to cross the six and a half million mark, that's so brutal. Unfortunately Super Mario Bros is out of its reach (6.810.000). I don't think we will ever see a game in Japan with such an astronomical sales figures.
Since this has probably been its last year in the yearly Top 100, it is time remember its complete run.
2006.
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25} - 3.818.214 / 3.818.214
2007.
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25} - 1.176.939 / 4.995.153
2008.
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25} - 377.034 / 5.372.187
2009.
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25} - 287.399 / 5.659.586
2010.
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25} - 355.639 / 6.015.225
2011.
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25} - 254.452 / 6.269.677
2012.
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25} - 133.235 / 6.402.912
CadetMahoney
Member
Especially for the population size.
I cannot believe people are coming into this thread and wondering why Japanese people living in Japan are primarily buying Japanese games designed and marketed towards Japanese people. Because obviously they will just start buying western games for no reason.
I wonder if GAF existed back in the day that the Famicom Super Mario Bros. 2 would be called a bomba?
"Bombed hard" as the best selling game of 2011. The whole market is contracting in Japan, and the direct sequels always sell less than an entirely new numbered entry.
I guess every game in 2011 "bombed hard" then?
electroplankton
Banned
You don't have to take the absolute numbers and judge them. You have to see the context. Final Fantasy XIII-2 was overshipped, and this led retailers to slash the price as soon as they could. The game was in the bargain bins soon after its launch, which is not a good sign per se; currently, you can buy it on Amazon for 2100 yen, 1/4 its original price. Being the best selling game for home console in 2011 doesn't mean anything. Also: the ratio between X and X-2 was much higher than the ratio between XIII and XIII-2, just to have a reference.
Being the best selling game doesn't mean anything? That's a ridiculous position to take. I honestly don't know how anyone could possibly back that up.
It's always funny to me how finding the game cheap at retail is supposed to be insulting, but Steam sales pushing games for 80% off is just progressive, forward-thinking retail.
Great argument there. Clearly a failure, which is why a 3rd game is coming out.
Guess every game released in 2011 was a failure.
electroplankton
Banned
Being the best selling game on home console (so not in the entire market) doesn't mean a lot when:
-it didn't meet publisher's expectations;
-it didn't meet retailers' expectations;
-many of its units were sold at a price way below the retail price;
-it sold way, way less than its predecessor, and worser than the most similar example in the series (X->X-2).
Also: price cut by retailers because the game doesn't sell is something different than Steam sales, which is a digital market, so it' completely different to begin with.
No.
For example, Capcom projected to sell 1.2 million Monster Hunter 3G on 3DS; the game eventually sold close to 1.6 million. That's not a failure.
Another example: Bravely Default: Flying Fairy sold "just" 280.000 units, more or less. A failure? No, because expectations were much lower, indeed the game has been sold-out for weeks, and that forced Square Enix to put it on the eShop so to not losing the positive word-of-mouth.
Etc.
You might want to read on how retail works...
Read what? Overshipped doesn't matter to the publishers. If they could sell that much to retailers, the money is made. Japan also doesn't have price protection like the US where they sell copies back to the publishers.
Did it meet their projections? No. But clearly it still made enough for them to make a new game. How anyone can call it a failure, I don't know. Do failures usually get sequels?
electroplankton
Banned
Yes and no.
Final Fantasy XIII-2 surely was a cheap game to make, and Lighting Returns seems even cheaper. Also, developing many games based on the same franchise, they can dilute better the costs. But probably Lighting Returns was greenlighted before XIII-2 was out.
Also: XIII-2 bombed hard also worldwide. It's not that it compensated the poor Japanese sales with strong European or American sales, as XIII did.
It sold about as much, or more than Deus Ex: Human Revolution. I think it sold more than Witcher 2 as well. I just don't think it bombed. It picked up sales in the rest of Asia that were stronger than before, and continue to grow. And again, Lightning Returns is coming out in the west too. SQEX has no problem not bringing over things they think won't make money, but LR is still coming over.
I see your points, but I think it's clear the game is still profitable for them. You guys are exaggerating how poorly it did.
PowerSmell
Member
Get away with what exactly?
Bruno MB
Member
How come you didn't mention anything about Medarot 7? xD
[3DS] Medarot 7: Kabuto / Kuwagata (Rocket Company) {2012.09.13} - 107.751 / 107.751
Well, at least it seems that it will manage to sell its first shipment (around 120k).
here is UK top 100 for 2012, ranked but without sales numbers http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507897&highlight=pal+2012
one Vita game (91. Uncharted Golden Abyss, P4G releasing in 2013)
one Japanese developed game in the top 20 (15. Mario & Sonic London 2012)
17 of top 100 are Japanese developed
StreetsAhead
Member
Fucking UK gamers...only interest in games from their own hemisphere. How do they get away with this
Fucking UK gamers...only interest in games from their own hemisphere. How do they get away with this
East / West is a false dichotomy - the UK top 40 contains games from both american and european publishers, neglecting japanese games. Japan neglects the games of two whole continents, which comprise most of the world's game output, rather than those of a single country.
KillerMan91
Member
There are a lot more differences between Japanese and western games generally than there are between European and American games. America and Europe are pretty damn similar culturally when it comes to entertainment. It's no wonder that Japan then neglects games from both continents (and actually western games sell more and more each year in Japan).
KillerMan91
Member
Well when you have western game that appeals to japanese audience it can sell. For example Crash 3 did over million in Japan during PS1 era.
SolidSnakex
Member
DKCR sold over a million in Japan. Crash 2 and 3 also sold over a million there.
There are numerous Japanese games that sell millions upon millions in the West and even the most niche of niche Japanese games get a lot of attention from certain groups of gamers yet the reverse rarely happens.
You put it down to the West not making games that appeal to Japan.
How long can that apply for? Seems to me that your excuse suggests that Japanese people are quite picky making it very hard to tailor something to their taste rather than the case being that Western devs suck at making things that interest Japanese gamers (read broad taste vs narrow taste).
Movies might be a fairly close analogy (just that they broke out years and years ago), many Western movies don't hit Japan but many also do and their is a pretty wide spectrum of stuff including a bunch of action movies packed with shooting and other violence which many try to say doesn't meet Japanese tastes when it comes to games.
I think that in 5 or 10 or 20 years the same thing that happened with movies will happen with games, Japanese people will let go of the stigma they hold (fair enough to a degree, Japan dominated gaming for a long time) and give Western games more of a fair shake.
download card sales is already counted.
While overshipping doesn't matter to publisher, it would affect retailer order for future games. Since retailer can barely sell thru the first shipment for FFXIII-2, you could bet that the first shipment for XIII-3 would be a lot smaller.
And even you agree the title is not meeting SE's projection. If failure is too strong a word, we can call it a big disappointment then.
They can't.
Lapidus' Beard
Member
Seems I contributed to Yakuza 5's position with my import copy.
But no sign of the HD collection? Did it sell that bad...?
But no sign of the HD collection? Did it sell that bad...?
Even if Japan had a sizeable PC enclave I don't think the Famitsu chart would be the place to find it.