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Fatal Frame Community Thread - The Ultimate Horror Experience
- Thread starter LelouchViBritannia
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I'm not sure if that's totally fair. Yes the characters are designed to read as visually attractive, and clearly work has been put into the animations and visuals that support that, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the narrative treatment of the characters will be exploitative, over the top, or outrageous.
Fatal Frame has always had a pretty grounded approach towards female characters that stands out as distinct from a lot of visual design in Japanese games. This game doesn't look to diverge from that tradition.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
A PS3 is enough.
PS3 has the first 3 games on PSN as PS2 classics. The original Xbox has better versions of the first two games. The 3rd game is PS2 exclusive. Wii has a remake of 2 and the fourth game. The new game is Wii U exclusive.
I think they're all standalone, so take your pick.
Why PS4? It has no access to the PS2 classics available on PSN. PS3 is enough to play 1-3.
Thanks!
I do have a Wii but the game never got localized right? So I would actually need a japanese Wii or homebrew of some kind?
I think I'm getting a PS3 down the line, this series is something I know I will enjoy.
SerTapTap
Member
Fatal frame 3 is on PSN?! Oh, dang. Hm, might still get it physical so I have the whole PS2 set. Never got it for some reason, need to correct that.
If you have a PS2 or Xbox I'd say there's no reason not to get started on 1 and 2 (and 3, if ps2)
If you have a PS2 or Xbox I'd say there's no reason not to get started on 1 and 2 (and 3, if ps2)
There's an EU version that looks pretty out of print and expensive. I'm not sure how it compares to the original at all. You can hack the wii and play region free stuff.
Which one? The fourth one didn't, but there's a way to play it in English without modifying the system, and as for the second game, it was localized, but only in Europe (you'll need to softmod you Wii to play it if you have an NTSC console)
IAmtheFMan
Member
I miss this series.
Nintendo needs to bring FFV stateside.
Nintendo needs to bring FFV stateside.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
It's worth it to grab IV; amazing game.
I may be partial to Mamiko Noto.
I may be partial to Mamiko Noto.
Razzorn34
Member
This is well worth it by the way. Softmodding a Wii takes 2 seconds, and doesn't stop any other functionality. I borrowed my sister's Wii to softmod and play FF4. She doesn't know the difference. Amazing game btw.
SerTapTap
Member
Wait how do you put it in english? My wii's modded anyway since otherwise it was just a gamecube (now it's just a gamecube but I also copied all my wii/gamecube saves off it)
BaraSailey
Member
Subbed! I love love love these games and I'm really holding out hope that the new one will be localized.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Google is your friend?
TheMoon
Member
You'd need to install the homebrew channel, riivolution and buy a disc copy of Zero 4 to be able to make use of the fan translation. It's not rocket science but it still requires some basic reading to get running.
20-25 EUR isn't really that expensive.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0082115KS/
http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B007YBZSQO/
http://www.amazon.de/dp/B0082115KS/
http://www.amazon.de/dp/B007YIYFRK/
Not true anymore. The last firmware killed the way to run it without any homebrew, now you need to install extra stuff.
http://www.fatalframe4.net/
+ Google for the rest.
as a bonus, Zero 4 is currently on sale on Play-Asia
http://www.play-asia.com/zero-gesshoku-no-kamen-paOS-13-49-en-70-2srv.html (US$ 56.99 (EUR~44.34))
alternatives (without having to worry about customs fees):
http://www.yesasia.com/global/zero-tsukihami-no-kamen-japan-version/1011052948-0-0-0-en/info.html (US$64.99 [~50.59])
http://solarisjapan.com/products/zero-gesshoku-no-kamen (¥6,318 (Brand New) / ¥6,279 (Pre Owned))
i'm dumb and had a brainfart and only checked US amazon. Looks to be around $35 on US ebay as well. whoops!
LelouchViBritannia
Member
Gonna start fatal frame 2 remake once i get my hands on a Wiiu. Why is this console so expensive now? (uk)
played through about an hour of FF2 Xbox tonight and about to go in for more.
This series needs more props for 1) actually being scary, 2) actually having fun, rewarding combat, 3) without the use of pseudo-military people using all kinds of guns, 4) without resorting to some dumb person who swings weapons in the most obviously wrong way possible.
This series needs more props for 1) actually being scary, 2) actually having fun, rewarding combat, 3) without the use of pseudo-military people using all kinds of guns, 4) without resorting to some dumb person who swings weapons in the most obviously wrong way possible.
TheMoon
Member
Chest wobble nonsense seems to be specific to Ayane because of DOA legacy. As for the wet clothes, well, while I'm not particularly thrilled how they sound like horny teenagers while discussing it (at least in the translation), what do you expect with advancing tech and going for more realism in the visual department? When clothes get wet, they tend to become see-through (depending on the color and material, of course) so ...
As long as they don't mix this with gratuitous see-through shirt close-up shots I don't see a big problem. The game is all about water after all, would be weird if the clothes wouldn't be affected with the advanced visual capabilities of a modern system.
SerTapTap
Member
The trailers they showed up until now really don't match with their "wet and sexy" talk anyway, I'm not too concerned about it yet. Gameplay looks about the same, ghosts look horrific as ever, environments are still dreary. They're just wet environments now. Yes the main character is cute, but this has basically always been the case anyway. Ayane is my main annoyance so far, put her in Ninja Gaiden sure, this is weird.
TheMoon
Member
The only time I rolled my eyes was in the most recent round of screenshots where you could see Yuuri's dress being see-through because it got wet, presumably from just wading through deep water.
Wet
Dry
And she seems to be well covered so you don't really see much anyway, even from the front:
While the whole Ayane thing is kinda off-putting to me on a surface level, I like that she is basically completely locked off by being a post-game bonus mission, entirely separate from the main game. And with new mechanics that at least keep things interesting.
SerTapTap
Member
Ohhhh she's postgame, okay, I'm okay with that. That puts her in about the same class is the "gothic lolita" unlockable but quite hard to get outfit in Fatal Frame 2. Though that wasn't gratuitous, just weird and "lolita" in any context makes me feel a bit icky.
Edit: Oh you added pics. Yeah, the butt-clinging skirt is a bit much =/. "realistic" at least I guess...
TheMoon
Member
SerTapTap
Member
Not the same situation though. Even if the same audience that's buying their sexy bunny costume sets in DOA5 is buying Fatal Frame I'm not sure they want the same level of titillation in a game where the ghost of a woman with a broken neck chases after you while floating upside down.
T-K Boss: "Hey FF game dev, your games are great and all but they need to sell more copies. Add boobs."
Dev: "O-okay..."
Yeah, in a way it's saying "people like these things, so let's put them together and it will be better." Like thinking everything is better with chocolate, but then you put some on your tuna sandwich.
Hopefully it all turns out fine and doesn't amount to anything. I just find it odd that they're talking about these things specifically, when fans of the series aren't fans because of anything like that. As in, to whose benefit are they saying this ? I don't know what they think of their audience, but I want it for the locations, the story and the ghosts. I doubt anyone thinks of fatal frame, hears these details and goes "finally, that's what was missing from my experience." lol.
It'll probably be fine though, and post-game ayane is fine, just extra content.
TheMoon
Member
Well, it's a Famitsu interview for the Japanese audience. Who knows what they're in it for, as a whole. If this were an interview directed at a global audience in a scenario where worldwide release was announced, this would be a different thing.
TheMoon
Member
For those looking to import Zero 5 this shop seems to have the best price. I saw it linked in the Cheap Arse Gaffer thread with the mention that they supposedly mark down value to save you hassle with customs.
https://www.nippon-yasan.com/japane...wii-u/8156-wii-u-zero-nuregarasu-no-miko.html
https://www.nippon-yasan.com/japane...wii-u/8156-wii-u-zero-nuregarasu-no-miko.html
She is? That's something, I guess, though I would have rather that the development resources has been spent elsewhere.
GayForMaster
Banned
Hey guys, newbie here that's just starting out the series. I picked up FF1/2 on OG Xbox, 3 on PS2, Number 4 (will make a translated copy of course to be able to play it). I hope FF5 gets localized, but I also hope this series scares the shit out of me like P.T did. I haven't felt scared in a while (before trying P.T), and I kinda miss that. I want to have nightmares again, and feel like I'm going to die at night.
1, 2 and 3 are proper horror games, but 4 is more like a horror adventure, and 5 looks to follow that route. 4 is still a really, really great game, but it wasn't scary.
I found 3 to be very scary, personally.
GayForMaster
Banned
Personally excited to hear that, haha. I'll be sure to notify you of how many times I shit my pants whilst playing these 2, or the whole series. I'm just waiting on my CRT to arrive to play them all.
TheMoon
Member
Haven't you read the interview translation?
I just skimmed it. First time I've really been on the web in the last two days, so I've been catching up on things.
wyvern_bloodfist
Member
Have any of you seen these (Fatal Frame V / 零 ～濡鴉ノ巫女
videos yet; someone posted them to youtube, here's the links
*WARNING!!!!SPOILERS!!!*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqrVKlSMQPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ4dvaf4uqw
videos yet; someone posted them to youtube, here's the links *WARNING!!!!SPOILERS!!!*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqrVKlSMQPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ4dvaf4uqw
SatoAilDarko
Member
I got the first three games on disc for PS2. I also have the first two on PSN.
I had a $15 coupon off an Ebay purchase so I bought Fatal Frame 2 Pal. I'll pick up a Japanese copy of the fourth as well. I going to buy another Wii to run homebrew on since you can get them for like $30 used.
I had a $15 coupon off an Ebay purchase so I bought Fatal Frame 2 Pal. I'll pick up a Japanese copy of the fourth as well. I going to buy another Wii to run homebrew on since you can get them for like $30 used.
Your reassurance that the older games aren't like the new one when it comes to fanservice has convinced me to give the series a shot.
I only have two complaints so far.
1. The voice acting is terrible. Do later games have the option for dual audio?
2. I'm on what I would consider the first real puzzle and I dislike that they don't show you the Japanese symbols and their corresponding numbers on the side of the screen. I suck at drawing, meaning I have to keep opening up the file that has them in it.
I only have two complaints so far.
1. The voice acting is terrible. Do later games have the option for dual audio?
2. I'm on what I would consider the first real puzzle and I dislike that they don't show you the Japanese symbols and their corresponding numbers on the side of the screen. I suck at drawing, meaning I have to keep opening up the file that has them in it.
No reviews out yet? Famitsu?
InternHertz
Member
I caved in after all, downloading now! I had to delete a few games off the HDD though :x