Skellig Gra
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On the one hand thy are getting paid a very high wage relative to other people in their profession. On the other hand, if your company has so many resources you shouldn't have employees living in poverty.
This. I can't afford to live in midtown Manhattan. Gotta commute.
You forget they have to pay taxes and Obamacare, so from that 72000 they get to spend much less
they're contractors. they're not working full time.
You forget they have to pay taxes and Obamacare, so from that 72000 they get to spend much less
She is a realtor and a council member! No conflict of interest there.went to her twitter and her first post is a self proclaimed NIMBY post
https://twitter.com/lydia_kou
Facebook is in the suburbs. Where are you getting your information from?
On the one hand thy are getting paid a very high wage relative to other people in their profession. On the other hand, if your company has so many resources you shouldn't have employees living in poverty.
Damn, this is really crazy.. as someone who lives in MI where 20$ would be plenty to live on the thought that a 20$ an hour job is not cutting it is just mind boggling. 20$ an hour for a worker here is like.. a good paying job, easy answer is get the hell out of SF with your family but I know that's not an easy option.. you can't just pack up your enitre life so easily especially living check to check.
contractor != part time
Just like everybody else making 72,000?
Move to the suburbs and commute to work. There problem solved
A 3 bedroom apartment in that area is around 3-5k a month.
Full time, part time and contractors are all distinct destinations. So he's right that they're not full-time.
That's life though. a lot of us have been in the same boat where the cost of living is too much close to work. There are plenty of places on the outskirts that they can live. 1.5 hours away isn't the end of the world. I make a similar commute for work and now I can afford to live in the city but still choose to live outside of it. Sometimes we got to make sacrifices to add the right kind of balance and comfortable living for our families to function instead of complaining.
The problem is the suburbs are now overpriced and regulated to hell so they can't build more housing. So now being are having to like 1.5 and 2 hours away from the city to get livable rent. And even then they are starting to run into problems.
their situation would barely be alleviated, now you're throwing not-insignificant travel costs on top of it, as well as increased child care expenses.
lol they are making nearly $40 an hour which is $83k a year for flipping burgers. That just makes me angry at the poor parenting more than anything. go and live outside the city like every other middle class earner. Travel an hour each way/ if you have to. my brother did that for 3 years. give your kids a fucking bedroom FFS.
lol they are making nearly $40 an hour which is $83k a year for flipping burgers. That just makes me angry at the poor parenting more than anything. go and live outside the city like every other middle class earner. Travel an hour each way/ if you have to. my brother did that for 3 years. give your kids a fucking bedroom FFS.
No it's not. Part time and Full time describe the hours worked. Contractor is the type of employment contract they have.
California is a politically broken state, the problem is anything within 2 hours of SF or LA.They would be in a better living situation though wouldn't they? We all got to make sacrifices to get what we want. What makes them any different.
lol they are making nearly $40 an hour which is $83k a year for flipping burgers. That just makes me angry at the poor parenting more than anything. go and live outside the city like every other middle class earner. Travel an hour each way/ if you have to. my brother did that for 3 years. give your kids a fucking bedroom FFS.
lol they are making nearly $40 an hour which is $83k a year for flipping burgers. That just makes me angry at the poor parenting more than anything. go and live outside the city like every other middle class earner. Travel an hour each way/ if you have to. my brother did that for 3 years. give your kids a fucking bedroom FFS.
They would be in a better living situation though wouldn't they? We all got to make sacrifices to get what we want. What makes them any different.
No at these companies. There's a type of employment, and it's almost always one of those three.
why is allowed living in a garage though
California is a politically broken state, the problem is anything within 2 hours of SF or LA.
They would be in a better living situation though wouldn't they? We all got to make sacrifices to get what we want. What makes them any different.
So how would Zuckerberg fix that? What are they realistically expecting him to do? Setup a campus for employees? That opens the door to a whole other set of problems and criticism
So how would Zuckerberg fix that? What are they realistically expecting him to do? Setup a campus for employees? That opens the door to a whole other set of problems and criticism. They're already getting paid well for their profession.
Approx. 2.5 hours outside of the suburbs after traffic.
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Don't see how it could be NIMBY land and politically broken if in the last year LA voters shot down a NIMBY ballot measure and voted for separate measures to require and give bonuses to developers to include affordable housing, to spend billions on public transit and to build more housing for the homeless.California is a politically broken state, the problem is anything within 2 hours of SF or LA.
Kaepernick is officially a socialist fave so you should probably change your avi if you're gonna be so capitalistic bootstrap-y
Just because your brain has normalized it doesn't make it "not too bad."That's not TOO bad.
That's not TOO bad.
Where are their coworkers living? How feasible is commuting every day? What do houses cost on the outskirts? I'm all for unionizing, but at what point do you say it's time to move further out? $34 an hour between both parents is enough for a house and a car payment where I live. Maybe it's not so good further out though. For the sake of the children I do hope something gets worked out
The problem is the suburbs are now overpriced and regulated to hell so they can't build more housing. So now being are having to like 1.5 and 2 hours away from the city to get livable rent. And even then they are starting to run into problems.
ng we should be advocating. That's ridiculous.
It's probably both but a contractor can be full time and part time as well. A part time contractor would be working less then 32 hours per week.
It's their parents garage.
I will never understand how a company has health insurance options their employee's can't afford. Fuck that.
This is the same reason that stuff like BART extensions (that's the local train system) has taken so long. Everyone wants BART to go farther out but no one wants it going through their area.
3 hours both ways with 3 kids for both parents?
That's ludicrous, at that point you're paying more monthly in child care than you're saving by commuting and they're right back in the same position.
Day care is easily $4K+ a month in that area for 3 kids.
I'm just being realistic. I see both sides of the fence here and I just don't think it's as big of an issue as the complainants are making it. They live in a garage. Like they can find a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment for around the same price they rent the garage space for if not less and still live much more comfortably than they are now. That's the reality of it.
http://www.bestplaces.net/cost_of_living/city/california/menlo_park
Cost of living for the entire bay metro area is comparable to where they are now.
Living 2.5-3 hours commute both ways outside your place of employment isn't something we should be advocating. That's ridiculous. Especially when their employer has the ability to rectify this for them and every other service level employee they have.
Yeah, I understand people saying they need to "make sacrifices" but when you're making payday loans to cover rent in a garage because there's no where else to live in town and the same situation would come up no matter where they move in a 1-2 hour radius, that's already a "sacrifice" by any means.
$20 an hour sounds like a lot but if you lived in that area of Cali you'd know it's not by comparison. There's a reason I turned down Silicon Valley engineering jobs when I graduated, I get to live like a king in Cen Cal. But, I'm in Cen Cal so that's its own punishment.
No at these companies. There's a type of employment, and it's almost always one of those three.
Full-time != Contractor
At Google, when it says FTE Only, it means no part time, no contractors working 40h/week, etc.
They would be in a better living situation though wouldn't they? We all got to make sacrifices to get what we want. What makes them any different.