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Fighting Games Weekly | July 29 - August 4 | Obey your thirst

Owensboro

Member
So, er, did some shit go down at the beach or something? Only thing I saw from that event was Max/Doom commentary and Nigri.

I'll second this question. Was away all weekend and didn't get a chance to watch anything. Any chance we could get a quick "What Happened at [tournament]" post in these threads after a tourney has happened? While reading results would be nice, getting all the other info (people are angry at MarkMan? There as pot splitting again?) would be awesome.
 

Brobzoid

how do I slip unnoticed out of a gloryhole booth?
So, er, did some shit go down at the beach or something? Only thing I saw from that event was Max/Doom commentary and Nigri.

Off the top of my head: they canceled several of the events they had announced (MVC2, actor appearance), the pot bonus for melee was withdrawn due to low pre-registration numbers which the people who came to play melee seemed to not know was possible, UMVC3 finalists split the pot and goofed off rather than play seriously.

Street Fighter finals were really good though, so to anyone who didn't watch the tournament I would recommend going back and watching those.
 

Brobzoid

how do I slip unnoticed out of a gloryhole booth?
I was rooting for gamerbee too, but PR Rog and Dieminion played great so it's kewl~
 
Off the top of my head: they canceled several of the events they had announced (MVC2, actor appearance), the pot bonus for melee was withdrawn due to low pre-registration numbers which the people who came to play melee seemed to not know was possible, UMVC3 finalists split the pot and goofed off rather than play seriously.

Street Fighter finals were really good though, so to anyone who didn't watch the tournament I would recommend going back and watching those.

Also the FChamp/ChrisG/Jwong/Yipes exhibition for $5000 was cancelled, the Casino Royale money matches that would let players bet on matches at the local casino were cancelled, and the Mortal Kombat dinner scene with the original Shang Tsung actor from the MK movie was cancelled.

You can't do anything about collusion in the end. But you can at least do enough to make players care about not making it obvious.

The whole "Well if y ou're not gonna support tourneys that police collusion, why are you supporting VxG again next year?" argument is so dumb that I shouldn't even have to explain.

Please explain anyway.
 

Kalamari

Member
I guess this is why it's best to start small and grow over time, it's far less harmful to make mistakes on a small scale than a much larger one. Jebailey is a sage.
 

Kikujiro

Member
Jessica Nigri was great, instead of using stream monsters as an example of why the FGC is sexist, racist etc, and videogames are sexist, racist etc., she just treated them as the trolls the are. Not taking every shit so seriously will make your life better.
 

Shito

Member
Jessica Nigri was great, instead of using stream monsters as an example of why the FGC is sexist, racist etc, and videogames are sexist, racist etc., she just treated them as the trolls the are. Not taking every shit so seriously will make your life better.
Yeah, she reacted just fine.
It probably helps that she seems very conscious of herself. I'd rather have girls like her, making good fun of the stupid trolls and comments she can get while enjoying herself, than ones pointing fingers and laying blames onto an entire community.
Still, really not a fan of this week's title; we had so much more interesting stuff to make fun of than Gootecks and Nigri.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Where did the "Gootecks is thirsty" thing sprout from? Gootecks flirting with Nigri on stream? Because that's pretty tame.
 
Avatar will get de-beech'd when I get home.
As people have already noted, there was some solid AE and a handful of good Marvel matches, but vxg was an extremely underwhelming experience overall.
Thank goodness SGDQ was on to save the weekend...
 

Shito

Member
I suppose they had this lying around (we heard about something like it a long time ago), and decided to finally release it. They were probably afraid it would "kill" the competitive scene, but now that there's nearly nothing to kill anymore, might as well try and get a few more money out of it.

I hope the 5th character is not an SFxT gem...
 

LordJim

Member
I suppose they had this lying around (we heard about something like it a long time ago), and decided to finally release it. They were probably afraid it would "kill" the competitive scene, but now that there's nearly nothing to kill anymore, might as well try and get a few more money out of it.

I hope the 5th character is not an SFxT gem...
'Competitive' scene uses the presets either way.
 

Horseress

Member
They should add a character who is made entirely out of gems

IT'S FINALLY HER TIME!

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Lupinko post if you are ok pls
 

GeoNeo

I disagree.
VxG was a joke of an event. I'm not shocked at the backlash against Markman's tweets on eventhubs at all seeing as he will be supporting it again.

Anyway..what is the next big real major going down in U.S?
 
I'll second this question. Was away all weekend and didn't get a chance to watch anything. Any chance we could get a quick "What Happened at [tournament]" post in these threads after a tourney has happened? While reading results would be nice, getting all the other info (people are angry at MarkMan? There as pot splitting again?) would be awesome.

VxG fvck ups thus far: (Copy pasted from /r/kappa, credit to fdoom)

1) Not a lagless monitor. Brand being used is notorious for huge FPS delay.
2) Cancelled MvC2 Event for no real explanation.
3) Converter for controllers is a very bad brand and keeps disabling sticks during gameplay.
4) Hurricane is taking place near them.
5) Only 6 entrants for Tekken showed up.
6) Only 38 entrants for UMvC3 showed up.
7) Only 50 entrants for SF4 showed up.
8) Max and Doctor Doom doing commentary.
9) Just Frame James playing Marvel
10) Call of Duty tournament, trying to sign up fighting game players for it.
11) Haunts is streaming it and he still hasn't learned how to stream correctly even after all these years.
12) Combofiend is there but ISNT ALLOWED TO STREET FIGHTER, ONLY MVC3.
13) Justin Wong has refused to play any of the games and will only be commentating because of the MvC2 cancelled event.
14) Chris G is already complaining.
15) RIP has been DQ'd from VxG because they are not allowing DLC mirrors aka he can't double Law.
16) Persona has 4 entrants.
17) Mike Ross stick is broken. CoD player apparently kicked the bag it was in after he lost a game.
18) Some kid signed up under three different names in MK thus giving him 3 chances
19) VxG officials are pressuring marvel and sf players to play other games like cod and halo to boost numbers
20) VxG partnership with none other than Triforce/EMP.

Then yeah UMvC3 finals was a pot split, but who cares when the entire tourney is a joke.
 
Garou tier list talk: I participated in a Garou tournament recently, and Grant pretty much destroyed. It looked like character dominance on the level of any top tier character I've seen, but I was surprised to hear that he wasn't considered the best char, that B. Jenet and Kevin were above Grant. Grant in TOP is ridiculous.
 

LordJim

Member
Garou tier list talk: I participated in a Garou tournament recently, and Grant pretty much destroyed. It looked like character dominance on the level of any top tier character I've seen, but I was surprised to hear that he wasn't considered the best char, that B. Jenet and Kevin were above Grant. Grant in TOP is ridiculous.

Sometimes, great kevin players make you wonder if you needed to be present for the actual match.
 

Kumubou

Member
I liken the pot splitting issue to how it's seen in poker -- where generally, no one cares (and it's actively facilitated by the poker rooms when all of the players remaining can come to an agreement) unless the tournament is televised. At that point, there are more considerations than just the players -- you have to worry about the viewing audience and the sponsors and advertisers. Nobody wants to watch a rigged final, and that's the issue I have

One way that these tournaments kind of enforce that is through taxes. Let's say a tournament is paying $10,000 for 1st and $1,000 for second. The two remaining players decide to split the pot at $5,500 each, but the winner is still responsible for taxes on the $10,000. Of course, that's assuming that most FG tournaments have that sort of documentation in the first place. (To be fair, it is something that occurs more frequently, but there's a reason a lot of these tournaments are cash-based affairs to begin with).
 
Garou tier list talk: I participated in a Garou tournament recently, and Grant pretty much destroyed. It looked like character dominance on the level of any top tier character I've seen, but I was surprised to hear that he wasn't considered the best char, that B. Jenet and Kevin were above Grant. Grant in TOP is ridiculous.

Grant is great. Kain is da best.
 

MrKayle

Member
Street Fighter finals were really good though, so to anyone who didn't watch the tournament I would recommend going back and watching those.

they were SO good. PR Balrog went completely apeshit on dieminion. and Guile vs Boxer is a bad matchup for puncho.
 

Riposte

Member
Hmmm, I only caught bits and pieces, but if the tournament really go as bad as it seems, that's too bad. As for Gootecks being "thirsty", the small part I caught was him laughing himself to death because Nigri made some minor comments on the kids in the background of a SFIV stage... so...
 

Tizoc

Member
Did someone say Garou tiers?
Far as I know Garou has no tiers. Any character, except Tizoc, can destroy any other character, but it all comes down to the player's skills.
I will admit though that Grant, Kevin, Gato and BJ are among the strongest characters in the game, but all in all, it's pretty balanced.

It's not a revival, it's trying to squeeze more money out of the community. Especially if the fourth slot isn't free.

The 4th slot is free IIRC.
 
Jessica Nigri I thought was hilarious during commentary. I couldn't stop laughing when they were goofing on the kids in the background in that one SF4 level. Even though the questions she asked were not informative to me, I think in general explaining FGC terms and concepts publicly during a broadcast helps. NFL broadcasters often explain many concepts hardcore fans already know because it's informative to new viewers. In general I wish the FGC (or eSports in general) treated their viewers/audience with the same respect pro sports do, but that's another topic.

I didn't realize so many people were upset by her.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
I didn't realize so many people were upset by her.

Only idiots were. In other words, the majority of people who participate in stream chats.

I think she was on the mic for a bit too long, but she was frankly better than some regular FGC commentators as a personality. The combination of Gootecks and Max for Marvel was more offensive to me.
 

alstein

Member
I like the idea, though I think it should be reserved for earlier rounds-

Ultradavid + a casual personality like a Jessica Nigri might be a good combination.
 

Exr

Member
Garou tier list talk: I participated in a Garou tournament recently, and Grant pretty much destroyed. It looked like character dominance on the level of any top tier character I've seen, but I was surprised to hear that he wasn't considered the best char, that B. Jenet and Kevin were above Grant. Grant in TOP is ridiculous.
Man I wish my scene was interested in Garou. Grant is really good, but a strong Kevin player will make you feel helpless.
 
One way that these tournaments kind of enforce that is through taxes. Let's say a tournament is paying $10,000 for 1st and $1,000 for second. The two remaining players decide to split the pot at $5,500 each, but the winner is still responsible for taxes on the $10,000. Of course, that's assuming that most FG tournaments have that sort of documentation in the first place. (To be fair, it is something that occurs more frequently, but there's a reason a lot of these tournaments are cash-based affairs to begin with).

Oh wow that's really interesting! Got any links about this?

I like the idea, though I think it should be reserved for earlier rounds-

Ultradavid + a casual personality like a Jessica Nigri might be a good combination.

I'll pass
 
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