we will always have modders to hopefully fix it if its awful.I hope it gets fixed for the Steam version
we will always have modders to hopefully fix it if its awful.I hope it gets fixed for the Steam version
Let's not put Namco, NRS, Capcom, ASW, Atlus and Lab Zero on the same plane as Nintendo. The Big N would shut everything down for the smallest reason if they have anything to gain.If players keep this up, the publishers will stop allowing these streams. The streams go, the sponsors go and it's a wrap.
Nintendo just barely let SSBM get streamed at evo. If that stream had players throwing games and splitting pots you would never see another stream from that game again.
You know what?
Fuck it. Let it burn. If people were in it solely for the money in the first place, then let Capcom Cup get cancelled. Shut down the Capcom Fighters division. Make the F.Champs and Chris Gs and Flockers realize how bad they're fucking the Capcom fighting game community by hitting them where it hurts.
And you what? Every other fighting game community will be in the clear once the shit hits the fan. NRS will still patch their games way too fast while giving insane bonuses for tournaments, KI will still be Max's favorite game, Anime players will still bitch about region delays. Hell, EVO will be the same because they don't get any support from Capcom in the first place. How is the winner of SF4 for EVO 2013 get less than the winner of Marvel at VxG? Come on, son.
The stream monsters will move on to the speedrunning community, Sp00ky wil still get the hookups from MarkMan and stream marketing events, Capcom will stop with the DLC bullshit and actually sit down and maybe release a brand new game instead of just patches, and TOs will rely on actual sponsors to help them out.
The FGC wil not be done, Mr. Wizard. The only thing that will be over are the FGC's chances to make a profit out of the events and the online "community" that the FGC spawned.
Oh god.
I just realized I sound just like TriForce.
WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOR
You know what?
Fuck it. Let it burn. If people were in it solely for the money in the first place, then let Capcom Cup get cancelled. Shut down the Capcom Fighters division. Make the F.Champs and Chris Gs and Flockers realize how bad they're fucking the Capcom fighting game community by hitting them where it hurts.
And you what? Every other fighting game community will be in the clear once the shit hits the fan. NRS will still patch their games way too fast while giving insane bonuses for tournaments, KI will still be Max's favorite game, Anime players will still bitch about region delays. Hell, EVO will be the same because they don't get any support from Capcom in the first place. How is the winner of SF4 for EVO 2013 get less than the winner of Marvel at VxG? Come on, son.
The stream monsters will move on to the speedrunning community, Sp00ky wil still get the hookups from MarkMan and stream marketing events, Capcom will stop with the DLC bullshit and actually sit down and maybe release a brand new game instead of just patches, and TOs will rely on actual sponsors to help them out.
The FGC wil not be done, Mr. Wizard. The only thing that will be over are the FGC's chances to make a profit out of the events and the online "community" that the FGC spawned.
who are some of the big sponsors? i know madcatz seem to be the biggest and i really hope they aren't the ones.
I'm also blaming Capcom for supporting VxG in the first place. An untested event with hidden ramifications and the EMP influence? Do people willingly stick their hands into blenders?
Fighting games were on the rise. A Capcom game went esports, an island paid for the FGC to have a tournament vacation, and Capcom has sponsored several tournaments in the last year. None of this was happening a decade ago. No one was getting a Lexus, but people were getting rent money.I think people are kind of losing perspective here. The FGC has always been poverty-oriented. There's been no money and there will be no money.
People are acting like everybody that plays Marvel and SF was gonna get a new Lexus until Chris G picked his B team. C'mon.
Where is your doom and gloom?What? VxG was a good experience for us overall. Friday was a mess but we really turned a corner come Saturday and Sunday was full of amazing fights right up until the UMVC3 grand finals which everyone was obviously disappointed in. There is a lot of potential with VxG and looks to be a good opportunity for us to continue to expand and support emerging scenes, similar to what we have done with Brazil with SF25 last year. There are great players all over the world and my goal is to give them the spotlight they deserve.
From my standpoint, I'd rather get involved with all the events that need and request our help and see what we can do to support them to make it a positive experience. I think its a much better approach than just letting these events burn to the ground and say "welp, told ya so!" without lifting a finger. Hindsight is always 20/20 so its easy to say "well they should have done this and the other" but at the end of the day you have to take risks with this kind of stuff and as a result I think VxG2014 is going to be an amazing experience based on what we all learned.
We ALL have a responsibility to move this scene forward -- everyone from the players, the publishers, sponsors and spectators (you!). We just cant sit on the sidelines and criticizing every little detail without a solution and expect positive things to happen in the FGC.
Nah you actually wrote using common sense unlike Triforce
It is going to be significantly bad if Capcom doesn't allow their games to be streamed, at least at a level beyond a house stream (aka no weeklies or tournaments). That will fundamentally knock the scene down to 09ish levels, at least for Capcom games.
Yay, Haunts Lives!What? VxG was a good experience for us overall. Friday was a mess but we really turned a corner come Saturday and Sunday was full of amazing fights right up until the UMVC3 grand finals which everyone was obviously disappointed in. There is a lot of potential with VxG and looks to be a good opportunity for us to continue to expand and support emerging scenes, similar to what we have done with Brazil with SF25 last year. There are great players all over the world and my goal is to give them the spotlight they deserve.
From my standpoint, I'd rather get involved with all the events that need and request our help and see what we can do to support them to make it a positive experience. I think its a much better approach than just letting these events burn to the ground and say "welp, told ya so!" without lifting a finger. Hindsight is always 20/20 so its easy to say "well they should have done this and the other" but at the end of the day you have to take risks with this kind of stuff and as a result I think VxG2014 is going to be an amazing experience based on what we all learned.
We ALL have a responsibility to move this scene forward -- everyone from the players, the publishers, sponsors and spectators (you!). We just cant sit on the sidelines and criticizing every little detail without a solution and expect positive things to happen in the FGC.
going back to the time when Tekken was bigger, i can dig that.
Not a Lexus but at least there's something:People are acting like everybody that plays Marvel and SF was gonna get a new Lexus
Oh god.
I just realized I sound just like TriForce.
WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOR
What? VxG was a good experience for us overall. Friday was a mess but we really turned a corner come Saturday and Sunday was full of amazing fights right up until the UMVC3 grand finals which everyone was obviously disappointed in. There is a lot of potential with VxG and looks to be a good opportunity for us to continue to expand and support emerging scenes, similar to what we have done with Brazil with SF25 last year. There are great players all over the world and my goal is to give them the spotlight they deserve.
From my standpoint, I'd rather get involved with all the events that need and request our help and see what we can do to support them to make it a positive experience. I think its a much better approach than just letting these events burn to the ground and say "welp, told ya so!" without lifting a finger. Hindsight is always 20/20 so its easy to say "well they should have done this and the other" but at the end of the day you have to take risks with this kind of stuff and as a result I think VxG2014 is going to be an amazing experience based on what we all learned.
We ALL have a responsibility to move this scene forward -- everyone from the players, the publishers, sponsors and spectators (you!). We just cant sit on the sidelines and criticizing every little detail without a solution and expect positive things to happen in the FGC.
VxG + Chris/Sanford blatantly trying a fake match in the GFs of AE at Next Level last night.Okay, I get back from a spending spree at a Home Bargains and discover that the US FGC is imploding.
What is going on exactly?
Yay, Haunts Lives!
Is the sky falling yet
Fighting games were on the rise. A Capcom game went esports, an island paid for the FGC to have a tournament vacation, and Capcom has sponsored several tournaments in the last year. None of this was happening a decade ago. No one was getting a Lexus, but people were getting rent money.
AGE, EG and Aver Media are the ones who come to mind. Complexity as well.
Adding to OP, thanks.Not do detract from all this doom and gloom, but I just saw that The Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown Sega Cup Europe 2013 isn't listed in the OP.
It's a one-day tournament happening in London on August 3rd. 7000 Prize Pot.
http://unequalledmedia.com/segacupeurope2013/
Real Honest Fighting
Yah but the FGC doesn't = America and 30 players. Other countries have fighting game scenes and will still be alive and well especially in those iffy countries where copy write laws don't really work. Japan, Europe and others will continue. Unless you don't count Japan then its still on the rise. DAIGO HAS HIS OWN MANGA
I think people are kind of losing perspective here. The FGC has always been poverty-oriented. There's been no money and there will be no money.
People are acting like everybody that plays Marvel and SF was gonna get a new Lexus until Chris G picked his B team. C'mon.
DAIGO HAS HIS OWN MANGA
VxG + Chris/Sanford blatantly trying a fake match in the GFs of AE at Next Level last night.
Tokido, Daigo, Nuki, and Mago were all in hentai too.
Daigo and Mago were girls.
VxG + Chris/Sanford blatantly trying a fake match in the GFs of AE at Next Level last night.
What da fuk?Tokido, Daigo, Nuki, and Mago were all in hentai too.
Daigo and Mago were girls.
it's time SNK
now's your chance to put KOF where it belongs, at the top.
Babies is putting it nicely.So Chris G and Sanford are acting like babies then?
Dedicated fans appreciate quality multi-player, see MOBA or the StarCraft scene, and will support the games for quite some time giving the company a guaranteed stream of profit. Fighting games are trickier to monetize without seeming like a rip-off though, see SFxTekken.
I'll money match you in that.It's your time to shine, Primal Rage.
It's your time to shine, Primal Rage.
Apparently a massive sponsorship opportunity went up in flames today because of VxG/NLBC. Confirmed by multiple people.Can somebody bring me up to speed? How did we go from spooky pulling a stream offline to MrWizard basically proclaiming the death of the FGC?
Apparently a massive sponsorship opportunity went up in flames today because of VxG/NLBC. Confirmed by multiple people.
I'll money match you in that.
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