Aaronrules380
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do you mean Dark Ether? And yeah, silence is an alternative, though unless you have spell blade I wouldn't call it reliable since mage masher is pretty iffy in that regard
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Final Fantasy Five Four Job Fiesta 2017: Don't talk about the #FifthJob
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do you mean Dark Ether? And yeah, silence is an alternative, though unless you have spell blade I wouldn't call it reliable since mage masher is pretty iffy in that regard
The story goes you can use Ether to overflow his MP to 9999. He can silence himself if you're soloing. It's rare.
Also should work on Neo Exdeath's first form.
Aaronrules380
Member
huh, weird.
On another note, Old is such a bullshit status condition. Aside from having no way to cure besides Esuna, it's effect is super debilitating and even if you cure it it doesn't actually undo the effect, it just stops it from getting worse
Pretty much the reason it doesn't show up a lot and that only really tough bosses tend to use it.
It's so nasty on Battle Speed 1 Active, my preferred way to play. Even if you're psychic and have the ability to use Esuna on the right character they'll still lose 10% of their levels. Wait a whole turn to get around to them again and they're probably down to level 1.
It's so nasty on Battle Speed 1 Active, my preferred way to play. Even if you're psychic and have the ability to use Esuna on the right character they'll still lose 10% of their levels. Wait a whole turn to get around to them again and they're probably down to level 1.
Aaronrules380
Member
I mean, this doesn't make it any less stupid tbh
I went 1 job twice.
Zero-Crescent
Member
Fire Job get! Went to Karnak and decided to grind out 26000 gil from the wolves for hammer profits. Loaded up on Mythril equipment for my Knights and new clothes and Frost Rods for my Time Mages. The enemies in the Fire Ship were no problem, as my Knights already learned Two-Handed, so they went down in one shot. Liquid Flame was also pretty easy, smacking it a few times and breaking a Frost Rod in its tornado form. Also managed to grab the unique treasures in Karnak Castle without breaking a sweat. Gigas took two shots, but everyone else took one (Sorcerers were the bigger threat, since they could confuse my Knights). Iron Claw died without ever using Death Claw, thanks in part to Haste from my Time Mages.
And now, Fire Crystal shards in hand, Gilgabot granted my third job... Monk! I've had Monk in two previous years, but never with this job combination. I'm guessing that Monk will go pretty well with Knight (Equip Armor/Guard on Monk, HP+30%/Focus on Knight, Barehanded on Time Mage). Plus, I think Monk was buffed slightly in the Mobile version, as !Kick now apparently ignores Row, so it should be handy against Purobolos and such.
And now, Fire Crystal shards in hand, Gilgabot granted my third job... Monk! I've had Monk in two previous years, but never with this job combination. I'm guessing that Monk will go pretty well with Knight (Equip Armor/Guard on Monk, HP+30%/Focus on Knight, Barehanded on Time Mage). Plus, I think Monk was buffed slightly in the Mobile version, as !Kick now apparently ignores Row, so it should be handy against Purobolos and such.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Unless you are playing a Natural run, you double up on one of the other jobs until you unlock Mime. Outside Natural, the only time Freelancer is ever used is if there is no other job to use instead.
That's what I meant.
Aaronrules380
Member
And my fourth job is apparently yet another fucking beastmaster. I really liked the idea of chaos, but I wish I could do it without having to worry about duplicates. 3 beastmasters is a bit much honestly, and makes me want to abandon the run. I know I can reroll, but I don't really want to put in the money
One of my pals bought FFV on Steam and is doing his first run with Fiesta. Always super fun to watch!
Not sure Focus has any purpose with Knight. 2-Hand does double the damage with no wait time (although Focus does bypass some stuff like running via Chicken Knife).
Not sure Focus has any purpose with Knight. 2-Hand does double the damage with no wait time (although Focus does bypass some stuff like running via Chicken Knife).
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Doesn't PureChaos not have duplicates, but has Freelancer and Mime as options?
I think some of the specifics for Chaos and PureChaos were changed at some point so I'm not sure what all the differences are anymore.
I think some of the specifics for Chaos and PureChaos were changed at some point so I'm not sure what all the differences are anymore.
Aaronrules380
Member
It wasn't clear to me. I thought I saw something like that as well, but when I looked again at starting this run it made no mention of no duplicates and I'd rather avoid mime and freelancer tbh
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Those would be pretty specific modifiers, since NoDupe would only apply to Chaos and DupeRisk would only apply to Random and PureChaos (as far as I understand at least). Still could be neat though.
I'd still like to see a #Fresh modifier, to reduce (but not eliminate) the likelihood of getting a job you had in a previous run.
Professor Beef
Banned
yessssss
Yeah, even after all these years there are still like 6 jobs i've never rolled
RevenantKioku
PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Anyone willing to spot a GAFer a reroll?
Aaronrules380
Member
I'd honestly rather not ask someone to do that for me, especially since this is my second run
First time playing FFV
Have Black Mage, Red Mage, and Bard so far.
Bard seems like it isn't going to be too great, especially because I have terrible luck with status effects.
Enjoying the game a lot so far though. Playing with a gimmick like having 4 black mages for a while keeps things interesting.
Have Black Mage, Red Mage, and Bard so far.
Bard seems like it isn't going to be too great, especially because I have terrible luck with status effects.
Enjoying the game a lot so far though. Playing with a gimmick like having 4 black mages for a while keeps things interesting.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Time Mage cheeses a lot. Graviga and a comet or two easily deals with the crystals in W2, at least once you get Graviga to hit. Still only took one Elixir to restore MP for the whole fight. !Image helped too.
Stole four reflect rings from Reflect Mages. Mute makes them stand there and look silly while the Thief digs through their (seemingly very deep) pockets.
Bard is amazing, one of the best support jobs in the game and in a few situations it is an offensive monster too. Make sure you get all the songs, they cost no MP and have fantastic effects. Play all the pianos too, two of the best songs are locked behind playing them all.
I think a lot of the songs are missable if you go the next world without getting them, so make sure you don't skip any.
Stole four reflect rings from Reflect Mages. Mute makes them stand there and look silly while the Thief digs through their (seemingly very deep) pockets.
Bard is amazing, one of the best support jobs in the game and in a few situations it is an offensive monster too. Make sure you get all the songs, they cost no MP and have fantastic effects. Play all the pianos too, two of the best songs are locked behind playing them all.
I think a lot of the songs are missable if you go the next world without getting them, so make sure you don't skip any.
Professor Beef
Banned
Anytime someone complains about getting Bard, I immediately think "you've never truly dove into this game, have you?"
Hey man i've never even PLAYED this game, let alone dove into it
I'll probably cheat and look up all the song/piano locations so I don't miss anything. This is the 3rd time i've been reminded not to miss anything.
It's also the second time someone has mentioned dualcasting Black Magic. Shame about the inevitable grinding, but maybe i'll give it a shot.
I'm getting ready to dive in this weekend and curious - how does the RPGe fan translation stack up to the translation done for the GBA game? I have a repro cart for my SNES that I got several years ago because I couldn't stand the crappy music from the GBA, but now I'm wondering if I'm missing out on a better experience story-wise by not going with the professionally translated version. Any opinions?
Aaronrules380
Member
Are the crystals normally hard? My first run this year had them as a joke, though I feel like maybe I just got lucky since I don't feel like they used their elemental attacks much
Third job is in. Now I'm at thief, red mage, and bard. Super stoked about bard; probably my favorite fire crystal job. Red mage, on the other hand, is painfully mediocre later on. Really wish they could at least cast shell or esuna. Guess I'll be stuck dual casting fira on Neo Exdeath.
Hoping my last job is dancer. I think that's the only earth crystal job I've never had in the fiesta. It'd be nice to be able to use some of these ribbons for once.
Hoping my last job is dancer. I think that's the only earth crystal job I've never had in the fiesta. It'd be nice to be able to use some of these ribbons for once.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
It entirely depends on what jobs you have and how well prepared you are. For a decent number of job combinations they can be a difficult fight. World 2 doesn't actually have that much content or many bosses, but the crystals are one of probably three that can be stumbling blocks in a run (those being bridge Gilgamesh, Crystals, and of course Exdeath).
Aaronrules380
Member
I feel like I didn't really even do much special for the crystals though, which is why I'm confused
The crystals only use their elemental attacks when below half health, at which point they only use their full-party elemental attacks. If your team has really good damage output or strong full-party healing, the fight isn't very tough. If you lack either of those, the relentless magic attacks can easily overwhelm your team. At that point, trickery is necessary.
RevenantKioku
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Understood. Just trying to spread some fun!
Aaronrules380
Member
Appreciate the thought
Aaronrules380
Member
Huh, I don't really feel like I had either (since I didn't really understand mix well at that point). Maybe I got lucky, or maybe it's because I was heavily focusing down one at a time
To be blunt, FFV doesn't really have a standout plot, you're not missing too much even with whatever's considered the best translation. I'd still recommend the Steam/Mobile version over SF version just for convenience, though. Maybe the jobs tweaks as well? That's not for me to answer though, haven't delved into the changes yet lol
My very first FJF run they were a nightmare because of my party setup. I imagine with my setup this year they'll be a joke.
Professor Beef
Banned
Swift Song will suffice.
Super messy exdeath kill. Somehow ended up with reflect on my Ninja and Knight (Dragon Defense mix maybe?) and ended up hasting the middle part of exdeath. This wasn't a problem until it was the last part left alive and I killed the front right before it's turn. My Knight held on with 200 HP after surviving 2 almagests and a flurry of other attacks.
Feel like I've hit a brick wall with World 2 Exdeath (Monk, Dancer, Freelancer, Red Mage). I might've been okay if Cura was available to buy in W2 but no such luck. I don't like grinding to beat bosses but might need to here, his damage is just too high with no way to mitigate.
Have you gotten some Reflect Rings at the Barrier Tower? I'm finding it strange that you absolutely need Cura - Hi-Potions are good enough and you can use them with any job.
If you have any number of Reflect Rings, you just need to deal 16k damage and you've automatically won (Exdeath will only cast -aga spells and do physical attacks after 16k damage). If you have at least one Reflect Ring, go farm three or four Light Staves in Ghido's Cave (they are dropped by Metamorphs while they're not morphed) and break them with your Reflect-ed Red Mage until you see Exdeath cast an -aga spell; then you can stop and focus on keeping the party healthy after physical attacks.
Nope, no reflect rings. Thanks for the tip on the light staves though, wasn't aware of it!
Edit: And cura would be useful to heal up the entire party. If I spam hi-potions I'm dealing no damage and making no progress.
Edit2: Protect would also be nice but also not available world 2. Damn you #fifthjob.
Edit3: I managed to get him to 16k using super safe strats! All back row, berserked Freelancer w/ Hayate Bow and Monk (using Power Staff on Red Mage), spamming hipots. Unfortunately got down to only Krile and doomed, res'd kept getting hit. Next time!
Edit: And cura would be useful to heal up the entire party. If I spam hi-potions I'm dealing no damage and making no progress.
Edit2: Protect would also be nice but also not available world 2. Damn you #fifthjob.
Edit3: I managed to get him to 16k using super safe strats! All back row, berserked Freelancer w/ Hayate Bow and Monk (using Power Staff on Red Mage), spamming hipots. Unfortunately got down to only Krile and doomed, res'd kept getting hit. Next time!
Second run has been going great. Blue mage is just so good.
Not sure if Omega is going to be doable with ninja/blue mage/dancer/geomancer. Any thing I might be missing? Throwing a fuma shurikan only does 1200 ish and he counters hard.
Shinryu I plan on berserk/image cheesing him. Should be ok.
Not sure if Omega is going to be doable with ninja/blue mage/dancer/geomancer. Any thing I might be missing? Throwing a fuma shurikan only does 1200 ish and he counters hard.
Shinryu I plan on berserk/image cheesing him. Should be ok.
I had a similar team. Make sure your ranger has the Hayate Bow equipped. Somehow make sure he gets zombied by Exdeath. Put your Mystic Knight in back row with a flame shield, main gauche, and elven mantle. Drain blade or hi potions if you need to heal up. The zombie ranger's Hayate Bow rapid shot effect should only hit Exdeath (mine did about 1600/volley). The only thing that might kill you is his blizzaga but if you have the rest of the team zombied they should take most of the hits. Hope that helps.
Cool I didn't know Hayate only hits Exdeath in zombie mode I'll give that a try later tonight!
Exdeath fucking down. After a couple of attempts getting him just barely to 2nd stage, I thought I would make it a bit easier on myself and level everyone until Level 3 Flare was not an issue as well as get a bit of extra HP and what not. While I did this, I happened to have Faris master Dancer and Bartz master Monk. Slapped Freelancer onto Bartz, HP+30% and Counter w/ Hayate Bow -- 4K Rapid Fire procs berserked and nearly 2k HP helped immensely. I was in the second stage before I knew it and having two people over 1k HP helped immensely as I could actually tank a bit inbetween hi-potions.
World 3 here I come!
So... the zombie / Hayate bow combo didn't work for me. Probably a version issue (I'm playing on GBA) and Rapid Fire never proc'd. But equipping the Mystic Knight with Main Gauche did help because Lenna was manage to evade most of Exdeath's attack. She became the healer/reviver as my monk and ranger did their best to chip away on Exdeath's health. I started with 99 Phoenix Downs and 99 Hi-Potions and ended the fight in the teens.
On to world 3!